Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
DO I SMELL INTOLERANCE HERE?
It's simply amazing how these "gun threads" have a such a longevity. Any sane reasonable person should be able to see that it is the CRIMINAL who should be taken off the streets and leave the f*****g guns alone.
Yep JLM, you're right. It might not be a matter of sanity though...I think it's more like a case of some people not liking something (or simply thinking a certain way...like "guns are bad and that's that") and then aggressively showing their lack of tolerance for other people's tastes, likes, and dislikes. Of course, they like to preach tolerance themselves, but I guess it only applies selectively.
It's one of the paradoxical things I've always noted about politicians who "lean to the left"...I think they should be free to follow what they believe in, but the same courtesy should be extended to those who don't agree with them. But, all too often they get "rabid" - usually when under pressure or in the heat of the moment - and then things get ugly. And stupid.
...OR MAYBE IT'S JUST ARROGANCE
Mind you, it could be a case of "I'm smarter than you so my opinion counts as being valid and right, and yours does not." That's kind of a Liberal thing, I've noticed. A bit rude, to be sure, but one comes to expect that. After all, just have a look at how their current leader expresses himself during scrums and interviews. Man, if that isn't arrogance, smugness, and superiority, I don't know what is!
BIG GOVERNMENT = BIG SOLUTIONS (?)
And the poor old NDP just wants to "shotgun" (excuse the intended pun there) everything that stands in their way of big government. All guns are bad and should be banned. Does that mean the opinion of the farmer trying to protect his flock just doesn't matter? Or the person who likes to target practise and have a little fun? Sure, the politician might not like guns or might not think a little target practise is actually fun, but why should his/her opinion be imposed over someone else's likes/dislikes? I don't think it's a superior attitude in this case - just intolerance and rudeness, plain and simple.
PEOPLE CAN STILL THINK FOR THEMSELVES (Can't They?)
Of course, I understand why this condition exists. It's based on a belief that society as a whole should be smarter than individuals, when it comes to making important decisions. Good theory, but if you stop and think about it, what makes up a society? People, of course. Would it not make some sense then to allow each of those societal body parts (the people) to think for themselves and live under under societal rules that don't have to spell out every little "don't do this and don't do that" detail? I think that would be known as 'individual freedom' and it's a concept that my father fought for in World War II. And it's one I have always believed in.
THERE IS NO PERFECT SOLUTION
That is pretty much why I can get along with anybody (I have friends who vote NDP and Liberal) but I avoid political discussions when I think there is no point...like, if we believe in two different directions, we might as well agree to disagree and try and get along. Compromise is also a key ingredient of a successful and happy society. In fact, it might be the most important one.
GUNS HAVE A ROLE
And yes, I like guns too. There, I've said it! In fact, I own a whole bunch of them and they have actually saved
lives more than once. Well, actually, I
saved the lives but the gun figured prominently in the rescues. Rescue from what, you might ask? Well, let's see...shooting a rabid skunk that was about to take a chunk out of a toddler, killing a wolverine that had gotten into someone's house (if you've ever faced one of those, you'd get to appreciate guns in a hurry - and it has to be in a hurry because they can take out your throat in seconds...you don't have a lot of time to stop and think about it!), shooting a bear that was injured, walking on 3 legs, had rotten teeth and couldn't feed itself, and was trying to push in the front window of our house - he would not have made it through the winter on his own so I had to kill him. It's not an easy thing to do because you realize you're taking a life, but at the same time, if one understands a few basics, you know there is no alternative and a decision has to be made, usually in a hurry. There have been many instances like that over the years, and it's all a part of "country living." I've had advice given to me over the years by people who haven't actually lived out in the boonies (city folks) but really...
DO GUN OWNERS ENJOY KILLING THINGS? (I don't think so)
I would rather just limit my shooting to target practise, believe me. I have never met a gun owner who actually enjoys
killing anything. Even the hunters I know kill animals for meat and they always seem to treat the animals with respect. I know, some people will yell and scream about why do you have to kill innocent little bambis out there in the forest, but some of those screamers think nothing of dropping in to McD's for a double cheeseburger. Holy crap! They have not been to visit the place where the cows were killed for that
burger meat. Now that's
DOWNTOWN IS A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN THE BOONDOCKS
I know it's hard for someone living in a condo in downtown Toronto to relate to something like this (I have lived there myself), but hey, it's a big and diverse country. A federal law isn't always going to work in all parts of the country. I would like nothing better than to carry a handgun around when I'm out working in the bush. Something really effective, like a .44 magnum. If a sick bear attacks me, at least I would have enough time to hold him off while I get the rifle and do the job right. NO, I don't go around blowing away everything that moves...quite the contrary, I have a great deal of respect for nature and wildlife, and I live right in the middle of it.
I CAN'T STAND TO SEE AN ANIMAL SUFFER (Can you?)
There are times when the use of a gun to end a suffering animal's life is a humane thing to do. If you've ever seen a bear hit by a truck and lying in the ditch, crying its eyes out because it has a broken back and is struggling to try and move, you might be thankful that some of us have guns and can end that suffering on the spot. Sure, there are authorities that can do that job, but that might require an hour or two to happen. Why let that poor animal suffer in pain that long? I can't stand it myself. Living in the country often gives one a different perspective on life and death, mainly because you're close to it all the time.
WHAT GOOD IS A MISDIRECTED LAW? (Answer: None)
So, I hope I don't sound "intolerant" here...I'm just trying to point out why some of us appreciate and like having guns around. And, in typical gun owner fashion, I don't for a minute believe that layering more and more legislation on to the books to restrict, register, and otherwise control guns is going to do much to reduce gun-related crimes. CRIMINALS WON'T REGISTER THEIR GUNS! Read that again...CRIMINALS WON'T REGISTER THEIR GUNS!
So, relying on a gun registry to reduce crime would be like pumping up the tires on your car to eliminate that annoying clunk in the engine. You're barking up the wrong tree!