Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorter
Quit taking it apart and concentrating on the parts. Put all the facts together and you end up with a human. Limbs? Check. Heartbeat? Check. Human DNA? Check. Brain activity? Check. Human sperm donor? Check. Human egg donor? Check. And so on and so forth. The added results = human
All these things do not add up to a human being, Anna. Let us look at them.
Human limbs – Human limbs? Isn’t that circular reasoning? We are trying to establish if the fetus is a human being, so isn’t calling them human limbs jumping the gun?
Sir Joe. Do not project, please. I diod not say human limbs. You did. I said simply, "limbs".
Human DNA - a dead body, or a blob of tissue also has human DNA.
Yes, they do.
Brain activity – animals have brain activity. Are we talking of brain activity in human sense, ability to think, to reason, to analyze, to come to conclusions? I doubt it.
Human sperm and egg donor - Sure, human DNA went in and eventually a human being will emerge. The question is, at what stage.
Usually about the end of the 3rd trimester. No-one told you the process?
Now, instinctively you may think it obvious that all these factors combined make a human being. But when we look at it in detail, the answer is not so obvious.
Wrong. If you continue to separate them and look at them without consideration of the others, it isn't so obvious. If you look into each one with consideration of the others (regardless of depth of detail), it is obvious. Anyone ever tell you the tale of the blind men and the elephant?
"Once upon a time, there lived six blind men in a village. One day the villagers told them, "Hey, there is an elephant in the village today."
They had no idea what an elephant is. They decided, "Even though we would not be able to see it, let us go and feel it anyway." All of them went where the elephant was. Everyone of them touched the elephant.
"Hey, the elephant is a pillar," said the first man who touched his leg.
"Oh, no! it is like a rope," said the second man who touched the tail.
"Oh, no! it is like a thick branch of a tree," said the third man who touched the trunkof the elephant.
"It is like a big hand fan" said the fourth man who touched the ear of the elephant.
"It is like a huge wall," said the fifth man who touched the belly of the elephant.
"It is like a solid pipe," Said the sixth man who touched the tusk of the elephant.
They began to argue about the elephant and everyone of them insisted that he was right. It looked like they were getting agitated. A wise man was passing by and he saw this. He stopped and asked them, "What is the matter?" They said, "We cannot agree to what the elephant is like." Each one of them told what he thought the elephant was like. The wise man calmly explained to them, "All of you are right. The reason every one of you is telling it differently because each one of you touched the different part of the elephant. So, actually the elephant has all those features what you all said."
"Oh!" everyone said. There was no more fight. They felt happy that they were all right."