Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
So in giving this further thought Unf...
I'm not about to bend from my view that breastfeeding while drunk is bad. Taxed little livers are bad enough, but having a drunk person be the only person caring for a fragile infant can have disastrous consequences.
No one said it wasn't bad. But I think that taking the baby away, railroading the mother and her ending up with a criminal record isn't the correct response to it.
Where I am making an assumption is the same place you're making an assumption, and we're not going to come eye to eye on the story because of those assumptions. I assume the police could see her drunkenness better than I can see it through an article. You assume the police are lying about her drunkenness.
I make no assumption here. In the report it's stated that there was no testing to back up the opinion of the officer who responded. I am sure you are aware that the justice system needs proof not allegations to reach a guilty verdict. We seem to be leaving that part out more and more these days. Habeas corpus is protection from tyranny.
So, until we come to some sort of magical agreement on baseless assumptions (which I have yet to ever see happen).... I'll just leave it to the courts.
This contradicts what you said just before it. As I said, the police can see drunkenness but there are tests for that. One is a field test to confirm what the police think. The other is a blood test. Neither were used. Why would a cop, fully understanding the law, fail to conduct those tests on a case that they charge someone with neglect?
As I said, if the lady had talked to a lawyer, she would have been out by lunchtime and the police would have no case against her.
I fully agree that women shouldn't breast feed babies while drunk. Don't get confused about that. It's that the police can walk into someone's home and arrest them, haul their kids off and railroad them into pleading to a lesser charge when they know they don't have the proof to back up the big charges they threaten.
Now a days, almost everyone knows that the Cops job isn't to dispense justice. It's to arrest and build a case against those they arrest through collection of evidence. This is a failure in that. This looks to me as though it's an intervention on behalf of the boyfriend, amounting to scare tactics used to coerce a confession of a lessor charge in trade for her freedom, that can be used against her at a later date.
And that is what I have a problem with.
With all the hullabaloo you guys are putting up over this, one would think this lady is a known baby killer that in some maniacal orgy of blood lust started lactating Sea Wasp venom.
In perspective, this first time mom was drunk probably for the first time in ten months and used poor judgment after being allegedly kneed to the face and slapped around at four in the morning, likely with a crying baby in one hand and the police asking her questions.
The huge mistake she made? She started to breast feed her kid.
Like I said, she needs some education and perhaps a little help with the kid. Not a criminal record, some serious federal jail time and her kid taken away.