Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream
You know L., a repetitive litany of 'prove it' does not constitute an argument.
Neither does opinion, and claiming stuff without providing evidence is simply that. As I said, there are 6 billion other opinions out there and yours is only one. People that make claims and provide evidence are more likely to be listened to than those with just an opinion.
I don't post links because i have found it a futile exercize, you can find links that 'prove' just about anything on any side of an issue on the internet.. from absurditiesthe like earth is flat, to alien abduction experiences, to the Global Warming hoax, to homosexuality as a natural, genetically defined state. It's all just a lot of nonsense, gift wrapped in some academic sounding mumbo jumbo... worthless in practical terms.
People have been conviced that the Earth is not flat simply because a few others tested their opinions and demonstrated with EVIDENCE that it isn't. There is a hoax involved with global warming, I agree. If you look at the data people provide, it's a reasonable conclusion that the planet is warming. I know there's an awful lot of BS going on about it, but ithe BS is avoidable.
You prove it. I haven't seen anything from you that presents any position on anything, just a cantakerous rejection of anything that doesn't smack of the most maudlin, relativistic moral goo, involving absolutely no societal or individualistic responsibility at all.. beyond one's own material gratification.
If you haven't seen any it's because you haven't got a clue what any proof would consist of or else you just plain ignore it. I suspect the latter, but you may prove me wrong. You have no clue about whether I have societal or individual responsibility or not because all you have is your simple-minded, religious dogma-inspired opinion.
And 'moral' problems are absolute not relative. They are imprinted as absolute Truth into the fabric of Creation.
That's your opinion. You are quite welcome to have your opinion but there is absolutely NO evidence to support your opinion.
Society, post or ex the Divine.. in inspiration, revelation, law.. is utterly incapable of defining what is good or evil. We see that all around us now, most profoundly in the holocaust of 'legal' abortion. We saw it when the Nazi 'society' determined that racial purification would rid the world of 'useless eaters'.
And we see it when some religious dogma demands that unless people brown-nose to some particular faith or other, they'll be killed, either in this life or some fictional life. Big difference. The Bible is no more moral than Mother Goose.
That is undoubtedy based on faith, and therefor beyond proof.
Typical escapist sophism when people have no basis for belief.
but it is also True.
Truth is relative.
The manifestation of not accepting Truth will be seen in a chaotic dissolution of a society, whose ethos is to its own 'freedom' from any 'God' given moral maxims.
Which god? Loki? Ra? Hanuman? It makes no difference which because they are ALL products of human imagination.
The proof will be in that pudding.
BTW, you don't provide evidence because you have no idea how to. How's that for an opinion? My evidence? Your complete lack of anything to substantiate what you claim.