Quote: Originally Posted by bobnoorduyn
When Cho walked onto campus property he was breaking the law, IT WAS A GUN FREE ZONE, he should've known better, oh right... The people who died obeyed the law, that makes sense.
Yeah and as you should be aware, when someone doesn't care about their own safety/life and want to inflict injury or death to others, Laws are not going to matter one way or another if he already has the weapons he needs to do what he wants. Which is why there should be some form of further testing or requirements to be met to make sure idiots like this guy doesn't get firearms as easily as he did.
Do you think people are clairvoyant? Warning signs almost only become apparent during a forensic investigation. Hindsight is, after all, 20/20
Most warning signs usually consist of friends seeing the signs, or the person actually talking about doing something harmful to others, them writing crap on the internet explaining how they feel and what they plan to do about it.
All the warning signs are right out in front of everybody's face and they sit there long enough for action to be taking most times.... the problem is that nobody takes them seriously.
Well.... here's some big warning signs that this lady may not go on a big shooting rampage, but she clearly has a problem and needs issues resolved in her life to be actually trusted with having that firearm all the time, esspeically when around children or with other families at stores, or at a soccor game, etc.
You'll see.... in another year or two, she'll be back in the news, something happened, and either someone is seriously wounded or killed.....
..... and then you'll come back on here and tell us that there were no warning signs and that "Technically" she didn't do anything illegal.
Nothing illegal until the moment she did something illegal.
Most of these various shootings can be easily prevented if people actually took a few seconds out of their days to actually open their eyes and see what is in front of them.
Maybe she is paranoid; but are you qualified to make that assessment?
Yes, deal with it.
Without any such diagnosis to base these allegations on all of her detractors could be found guilty of offering a psychological assessment without a license, or be sued.
Like I care and like that actually wins the argument. You don't need to be a rocket scientist or brain doctor to see with your own common sense the signs of what is to come from her direction. I have seen one too many like her who have suffered from some mental condition after a severe accident of event in someone's life. A lack of security and confidence in your own ability to hold your own in your life can make certain people end up doing some very stupid things..... .all because they never bothered to get any help for it and figured they were tough enough without any help.
You'll see soon enough, and once again, while someone comes back in here over an old topic and blabs about "Oh why didn't anybody see the signs? How could this of happened? Boo Hoo."
~ Once again, I will come back in here, point my finger, laugh and go "HA HA, TOLD YOU SO."
Wouldn't be the first time this year.
Again, are you clairvoyant? All your "probably's" don't add up to crap.
Of course they don't add up to crap, just like all you're probably's don't add up to jack sh*t, but at least now you're seeing my point and perhaps can start to debate something tangible.
BTW, a fellow in our neighbourhood, who is under a weapons ban, and is under 24 hr police surveillance/protection still managed to get himself shot, twice, last week. Probably by someone else who was under a weapons ban. The police were close enough to hear the shots fired.
Didn't you just say something about Probably's adding up to crap?
She is more likely to be a target at the ATM or the parking lot of Wal-Mart going to or from a soccer game. What would you rather she do, FedEx it to herself when she thinks she may need it?
Clearly she thinks she needs it all the time, so that question is kind of pointless. What she needs is a head exam.
What signs? Maybe we should just lock everyone up until they can prove they are not a danger.
Throw some more words that I never said into my mouth why don't you? Typical of someone who's running out of substance for their side of the argument.
What Signs? I already explained them and pointed them out a few times already, and I am not about to repeat myself again for someone who can't bother to read and absorb information that is in plain english.
Would it be better if she were disarmed and after loading her kids into the minivan and then being carjacked.
Ah yes, there's those hypocritical "Probably's" again you bitched so much about. Instead of playing with your probably games, how about we focus on some factuals for a moment:
Has it happened yet to her? No
Has it ever happened to her in the past? No
Because she had a gun you would respond? No, because it never happened to her or her family before the accident and before she thought it nessicary to carry a firearm.
Just because she doesn't live up to your version of morality doesn't mean she's a nutbar.
Sure it does.
Maybe it is the nutbars who would rather women like her be a submissive victim.
Are you fk'n kidding me? Do you think this is Saudi Arabia or something where women have to be escorted everywhere they go or else they're just simply asking to be a victim to rape, murder or robbery?
Do you see me walking around with a gun strapped up my *** for protection everyday because I'm all fearfull of being jumped or attacked, or killed, or robbed?
There isn't one single person I directly know in person who feels they need to carry a firearm with them at all times because they feel they will be targeted by a crime.
I myself have been attacked a few times in my days, the last time was by 5 punk *** thugs all drunk. I held my own quite well even after they started with the death threats and saying they're going to kill me for busting up their friend's face amongst the attempted attacks on me.
Who knows, maybe they will come back and try to kill me....... does that mean I should go and load myself up with guns just incase the unknown actually happens? Did I stay a passive victim as you said? Hell no..... but if I need to protect my life and those around me, I sure as hell can do it without a gun, and if they get me before I get them, well them's the breaks.
I don't need a gun to feel safe in my everyday life..... sh*t happens to us all eventually.... that's life itself and sometimes no matter how much you try and protect yourself, no matter how much you arm yourself, there are factors in your life beyond your control and if someone is going to attack you, they're going to do it whether you have a gun or not, the only difference is that they may bring a gun to attack you if you already have a gun and are flashing it around.
Frig I have more justification for wanting to arm myself with a firearm then she and perhaps most other people, yet I don't see a reason for it. When you're that paranoid of the world around you that you need a gun on you at all times when you leave the house, what does that tell you about yourself and the society you live amongst?
If you let yourself set into fear and act like that, then you lose and they win. Then again, everything down in the US as of late has revolved around fear and paranoia, so once again, see what your society tells you about itself and yourself.