Canada disputes bleak Afghan picture painted by international think tank

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Canada disputes bleak Afghan picture painted by international think tank - Nova Scotia News - TheChronicleHerald.ca

KANDAHAR — Claims by an international think-tank that the Taliban is growing in power and influence in Afghanistan drew instant condemnation Monday from Canada's ambassador to the war-torn country.

The findings by the International Council on Security and Development (ICOS), formerly known as the Senlis Council, said the Taliban now has a permanent presence in 72 per cent of the country compared with 54 per cent a year ago.

It defined permanent presence as being the site of at least one insurgent attack each week.

"There's a real irony here,'' said Ron Hoffmann, Canada's ambassador to Afghanistan.

"On one hand, the report points to the effectiveness of the Taliban propaganda efforts. But I have to say that whenever a Senlis report comes out, it must be a red letter day for the Taliban propaganda machine.''

The ICOS said "the West is in genuine danger of losing Afghanistan'' and that the Taliban is gaining support because of poppy eradication, continued poverty and civilian casualties.

It recommends a doubling of NATO forces and more aid programs along, with greater efforts by the West to cut down on civilian casualties in the fighting.

"The notion that 72 per cent of the country now has a permanent Taliban presence, I think is just fundamentally inaccurate,'' Hoffmann said.

"We're quite confident, and the government of Afghanistan is quite confident, that the Taliban presence is a sporadic one and still largely restricted to the south and significantly less than 50 per cent of the country.''

Hoffmann said the findings of the report are predictable and based on "dubious analysis and flimsy research'' coming from an agenda he doesn't fully understand.

Brig.-Gen. Denis Thompson, commander of Task Force Kandahar, also disputed claims about the Taliban's influence.

Thompson argues that attacks by the Taliban do not indicate any kind of control and that the insurgents enjoy the support of only 20 per cent of the Afghan people at most.

So where do you think things stand?

Is anybody winning over there?
 

MHz

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If I recall their history correctly from 73-79 they had a brutal Govt, from 80-?? they had a Govt that was making large gains in human rights, all by themselves. They have never been successfully invaded so this current action is doomed. How do you support a change when right now the 3% that own things (like land) want things that way (they still enjoy any benefits the 21st century can provide but nobody else gets to) You can't just take their land you have to compensate them for it at a price they set. The US will make sure they get the best deals, like pipelines being under their control rather than Russia getting the deals and contracts.
 

darkbeaver

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Under their socialist Government they had everything going fine including 50% female enrolement in university and and then along came Uncle Sam and the international banking scum. So the Canadian propaganda machine spews out the need to bring developement and democracy to Afghanistan when in fact the west destroyed the national social fabric thirty years ago.
Capitalism is war by other means. cha-ching cha-ching
 

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Nobodies winning and nobody ever will. It's a land born and torn in strife and nothing (not even Uncle Sambo) will change that.

By far the biggest problem in Afghanistan is the "western nation". They somehow in their deeply deluded minds think Afghani's should adhere to a western value system and philosophy

It ain't goin' to happen and shouldn't.

If the Islamic world believes Canada is somehow morally bankrupt, is it right to believe that our value system is wrong and we should somehow adhere to their beliefs - of course not
 

MHz

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Yet we don't mind trying to shove our values and beliefs down their throats, at the cheapest possible price.