Quote: Originally Posted by Curiosity
I always wonder when suicide became a 'sin' - making it a topic of impolite discussion among people and leaving those who have ideations believing they are 100% wrong in the eyes of
Is it based in religious or even more archaic dogma?
We value people sacrificing their lives to help others (military, public hero, etc) but revile those who make suicide a choice - when death is the ultimate result.
Is it viewed as cowardly? Is that wrong in society? There are many cowardly acts in life - why is suicide a sin?
I feel some people look down apon it, shun it, call it a sin, claim you will goto hell if you do it, saying it's a selfish act, etc..... because of their own selfishness.
They have the will and ability to take matters into their own hands and end what they no longer like.... and while some may feel it is selfish for them to do so because of how it would affect those around them, did it ever occur to those people how selfish they are in thinking that, rather then ever bothering to help them in the first place, it's selfish to expect them to do what makes us feel good about ourselves no matter how much they maybe suffering?
It has become a sin because some religious people feel that taking your own life goes against God's plan for you and stopped it sooner then it should have, therefore you goto hell as you ruined God's plan.
People don't talk about it because they feel the more people talk about it, the more accepted it becomes, thus more people would start doing it..... but people are going to do it no matter what other's say or do if they really want to. It's like sex before marriage or abortion.... you just don't do it..... no explination, no alternative solutions, no help.... you're just told it's not an option so forget about it.
Then you have the whole situation where your parents and family have to deal with your funeral, pay for the costs of your death you brought apon them..... and in that sense, there maybe a bit of selfishness..... so if you're gonna kill yourself, make sure your dying last wish is to be tossed into the woods at no expense to your loved ones and then you don't have to worry about that.
But there are many reasons one can mentioned.... most of them are all towards the concept that life is worth living and life is worth fighting for....... the problem sometimes is that people forget what they are fighthing for and if it is actually worth the suffering they are going through..... do they have a way out? Are they stuck? is anybody willing to help? Does anybody really care, or are they just caring just to make themselves feel special that they're helping?
In life, we will all face a time where we will question the worth of it all.... you may not have yet, you might be going through it now..... maybe you won't for another decade or two..... but eventually everybody hits the wall and starts to wonder about it all for one reason or another. Mine hit in grade 5-6 and ended somewhere around 7. I moved on.
Others are different, and when you are faced with a problem in life, you eventually solve it..... but then another comes along, and another, and it just sometimes feels like you're never winning, that it's never going to end, that all these other people around you are having such wonderful lives and it seems to come at ease...... but their lives have difficulties as well..... just different then what you are going through..... and if it isn't hard for them now, it will be eventually.
The only thing you can really do is fight it out, look for the good, plan for the positives in your life and keep going.... think about it.... you made it this far in your life, you had many challenges before, and while some were worse then others, you pulled through..... you can do it again, and you can do it again..... and you can keep doing it until the end. Everybody will have their day to die.... I know mine won't be by my own hands and I won't go down without a fight.
You will come across situations in your life that you never dealt with before, that really hit you in the side of the head and throw you for a loop..... but is that a time to give up and shut everything down.... game over, no continues?
If you run into a wall and don't know where else to turn or can't figure out how to get out of the mess you are in, then do what needs to be done..... get help, nobody can do it all on their own forever. The only other option is the above.
But we all have to figure out our own paths... some are shorter then others.
I know I went through plenty of crap..... in my childhood, school was THE
worst time in all of my life thus far. There have been so many times where I thought about just finishing myself off so I didn't have to wake up the next day and face that building full of *******s and the expense thrown on me on an hourly basis.
Beat the crap out of them all some would say...... yeah, easy to say, harder to do when you're the son of a teacher in the school..... I put certain expectations on myself and certain fears that I was being watched more then other students..... I felt that if I got in a fight and seriously crippled another student (Which I had the knowlege and ability to do easily, being the biggest person in the school and military background) but I worried what that would do to my father's job, would I be expelled, would it ruin my future when looking for a job, etc..... I put so much BS on myself that no matter what was done to me..... I let it happen.
I avoided fights because #1 - I didn't want to get myself in touble by my father #2 - I didn't want my father to get into trouble and #3 - I'd probably end up killing a kid, or at the very least beating their face into the concrete until police dragged me off them.....
So I sucked it all up, I put all the pain and depression onto myself..... and I let everybody else in the school to do so as well...... and I had no where to turn and no outlet.
Even when I explained the situation to my dad, and even after he told me I had his permission to crippled the sh*t out of those kids and make a few examples...... I didn't.... because that wasn't me.
Now if it happened today, or if I had the mentality and knowlege I have today back then, I would have gone A-Bomb on a crap load of people and I wouldn't care if I was hauled away by the police, or if someone was killed in the process...... (I still have all of what happened in school pent up deep inside.... waiting for my justice to be unleashed on a few) Today, I have no issues with defending myself in anyway needed.... I don't have to worry about what happens to my father's job, I don't have to worry about my school marks, and I don't have to worry about it affecting my future as much as I once worried about it...... I only have to worry about my own future.
And maybe that is why I no longer have the suicide going through the head anymore..... I answer to myself, I make the decisions for myself, and I will defend myself for myself now.....
Another part would be due to my old religious beliefs having an affect.... believing in a God who apparently wants your life to suck this much, doesn't do well for the self esteme or your faith in that God. Feeling that apparently nothing is in your control and it's "God's Way" can get pretty damn depressing.
That is another reason why I cleared my life of any paticular religion or the concept that some more powerful being has any affect on my life. My life is what I make of it. My decisions are what sets the path I take.... I can only save myself and I can not expect some magical being to do it for me.
Take Responsibility for my Role in life..... Accept the consequences of my actions and my decisions...... I am in existence and my existence has connection to everything surrounding me. I have more choices then I originally thought, and I have more power over what happens in my life then I originally have been taught.
And you all do as well.