Canada least corrupt nation in Americas

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Canada least corrupt in Americas, report finds
Peter O'Neil, Europe CorrespondentCanwest News Service

Tuesday, September 23, 2008


CREDIT: Canada was tied for ninth place among 180 countries and was first in the Americas, according to the ranking. Denmark, Sweden and New Zealand were tied for the top spot overall, with Singapore close behind.PARIS - Canada is viewed as the least corrupt country in the Americas and is an "inspiration" for its neighbours, according to the 2008 index released Tuesday by a Berlin-based watchdog.
But Canada's corruption ranking, despite being the highest of the G8 industrialized countries, has only partially recovered from the hit it took in 2004-06 period during the height of the public furor over the sponsorship scandal, said the Canadian spokeswoman for Transparency International.
Canada earned a 8.7 out of 10 score, good enough to retain the ninth-place spot it rose to in 2007, TI announced Tuesday.
Canada's score has slid steadily from 9.0 in 2002 to 8.7 in 2003, 8.5 in 2004, 8.4 in 2005, and 8.5 in 2006.
The figure jumped to 8.7 in 2007, a year after Prime Minister Stephen Harper formed government after winning the 2006 election, in which the Liberal sponsorship scandal was a major issue.
TI Canada executive-director Bronwyn Best speculated that Canada's rating hasn't fully recovered in part because of lingering memories about the sponsorship scandal.
An added factor is the more recent public focus on the Brian Mulroney-Karlheinz Schreiber case that was the subject of a high-profile probe by a parliamentary committee.
Harper has since launched a judicial inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Schreiber's payment of large amounts of cash to Mulroney in 1993, shortly after he stepped down as prime minister.
"It takes many years to build a reputation - whether you are a country, an organization or an individual. It takes a moment to destroy it," Best said.
"Building it up, again, can take even longer than the first time, and it is questionable whether or not you can reach the original apex again."
The U.S., burdened by the ongoing view that lobbyists and deep-pocketed special interest groups hold too much sway in government decisions, ranked 18th in the world and second in the Americas.
More than half the 32 countries in North and South America scored less than five points out of 10 in the TI rankings, indicating that each had a "serious" corruption problem.
Canada "therefore serves as a benchmark and inspiration for the Americas," TI said in a news release.
The TI score assesses the "perceived levels of public-sector corruption in a given country and is a composite index, drawing on different expert and business surveys," according to its website.
In Canada, six studies were considered, including the 2008 Economist Intelligence Unit study and the 2008 World Competitiveness Report of the Institute for Management Development.
TI warned that chronic corruption around the world, especially in poorer countries, is wasting billions in western aid dollars and resulting in a "humanitarian disaster" in poorer countries.
"In the poorest countries, corruption levels can mean the difference between life and death, when money for hospitals or clean water is in play," said TI chairwoman Huguette Labelle.
Among G8 countries, Germany was next in 14th place, Britain was 16th, Japan was tied with the U.S. and Belgium in 18th place, France was 23rd, Italy was 55th, and Russia was a dismal 147th - in a tie with Syria, Bangladesh, and Kenya.
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It's nice to be honest.
And it's even nicer when other nations recognize it.
Not to be tooo political but considering the Harper government is given full credit for restoring Canada's battered ratings which had plunged under the alleged lieing, cheating and stealing encouraged by the Liberal Party of Canada while it was in power.
And considering Harper is given full credit for allowing the light of day to penetrate the
Mulroney- KarlHeinz issue which has since withered on the vine.

Is Dion really capable of expunging all the Liberal power brokers, back room boys and Lib lobbyists that felt totally entitled to rooting through the taxpayer trough last time?
 

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U.S., Cuba and Democracy

By William Blum

Global Research, March 19, 2005
www.globalpolitician.com/articles.asp?ID=421

During the Clinton administration, the sentiment has been proclaimed on many occasions by the president and other political leaders, and dutifully reiterated by the media, that the thesis "Cuba is the only non-democracy in the Western Hemisphere" is now nothing short of received wisdom in the United States. Let us examine this thesis carefully for it has a highly interesting implication.
During the period of the Cuban revolution, 1959 to the present, Latin America has witnessed a terrible parade of human rights violations -- systematic, routine torture; legions of "disappeared" people; government-supported death squads picking off selected individuals; massacres en masse of peasants, students and other groups, shot down in cold blood. The worst perpetrators of these acts during all or part of this period have been the governments and associated paramilitary squads of El Salvador, Guatemala, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Peru, Mexico, Uruguay, Haiti and Honduras.
Not even Cuba's worst enemies have charged the Castro government with any of these violations, and if one further considers education and health care -- both of which are guaranteed by the United Nations' "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" and the "European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms" -- areas in which Cuba has consistently ranked at or near the top in Latin America, then it would appear that during the near-40 years of its revolution, Cuba has enjoyed one of the very best human-rights records in all of Latin America.
If, despite this record, the United States can insist that Cuba is the only "non-democracy" in the Western Hemisphere, we are left with the inescapable conclusion that this thing called "democracy", as seen from the White House, may have little or nothing to do with many of our most cherished human rights.
Indeed, numerous pronouncements emanating from Washington officialdom over the years make plain that "democracy", at best, or at most, is equated solely with elections and civil liberties. Not even jobs, food and shelter are part of the equation.
Thus, a nation with hordes of hungry, homeless, untended sick, barely literate, unemployed, and/or tortured people, whose loved ones are being disappeared and/or murdered with state connivance, can be said to be living in a "democracy" -- its literal Greek meaning of "rule of the people" implying that this is the kind of life the people actually want -- provided that every two years or four years they have the right to go to a designated place and put an X next to the name of one or another individual who promises to relieve their miserable condition, but who will, typically, do virtually nothing of the kind; and provided further that in this society there is at least a certain minimum of freedom -- how much being in large measure a function of one's wealth -- for one to express ones views about the powers-that-be and the workings of the society, without undue fear of punishment, regardless of whether expressing these views has any influence whatsoever over the way things are.
It is not by chance that the United States has defined democracy in this narrow manner. Throughout the cold war, the absence of "free and fair" multiparty elections and adequate civil liberties were what marked the Soviet foe and its satellites. These nations, however, provided their citizens with a relatively decent standard of living insofar as employment, food, health care, education, etc., without omnipresent Brazilian torture or Guatemalan death squads. At the same time, many of America's Third World allies in the cold war -- members of what Washington still likes to refer to as "The Free World" -- were human-rights disaster areas, who could boast of little other than the 30-second democracy of the polling booth and a tolerance for dissenting opinion so long as it didn't cut too close to the bone or threaten to turn into a movement.
Naturally, the only way to win cold-war propaganda points with team lineups like these, was to extol your team's brand of virtue and damn the enemy's lack of it, designating the former "democracy" and the latter "totalitarianism".
Needless to say, civil liberties and elections are not trifling accomplishments of mankind. Countless individuals have suffered torture and death in their pursuit. And despite the cold-war blinkers, which even today limits the United States' vision of this thing called democracy, there would still be ample credit due Washington if, in fact, in the post-World War II period, the US had been using its pre-eminent position in the world, its overwhelming "superpower" status, to spread these accomplishments -- to act as the unfailing global champion of free and fair elections, multiple parties, a free press, a free labor movement, habeas corpus, and other civil liberty icons. The historical record, however, points in the opposite direction.
The two cold-war powers presented fraudulent faces to the world. The Soviet Union's party line regularly extolled "wars of liberation", "anti-imperialism" and "anti-colonialism", while Moscow did extremely little to actually further these causes, American propaganda notwithstanding. The Soviets relished their image as champions of the Third World, but they stood by doing little more than going "tsk, tsk" as progressive movements and governments, even Communist Parties, in Greece, Guatemala, British Guiana, Chile, Indonesia, the Philippines and elsewhere went to the wall with American complicity.
At the same time, the words "freedom" and "democracy" rolled easily and routinely off the lips of American leaders, while American policies habitually supported dictatorships. Indeed, it would be difficult to name a brutal right-wing dictatorship of the second half of the twentieth century that was not supported by the United States -- not merely supported, but often put into power and kept in power against the wishes of the populace.
As numerous interventions have demonstrated, the engine of American foreign policy has been fueled, not by a devotion to democracy, but rather by the desire to: 1) make the world safe for American transnational corporations; 2) enhance the financial statements of defense contractors at home; 3) prevent the rise of any society that might serve as a successful example of an alternative to the capitalist model; 4) extend political and economic hegemony over as wide an area as possible, as befits a "great power"; and 5) fight a moral crusade against what cold warriors convinced themselves, and the American people, was the existence of an evil International Communist Conspiracy.
Over the past fifty years, in striving to establish a world populated with governments compatible with these aims, the United States has -- apart from monumental lip service -- accorded scant priority to this thing called democracy.
 
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Officially that would be Cuba. Look it up.

Well actually BB I don't need to.
From your previous posts I have noticed your slavish devotion to all things Socialist.
Obviously you are utterly sold on the wonders of the Marxist/Leninist path to social justice.
Good for you.
I however believe you are a deluded idiot to buy into that failed line of drivel.

I don't need you to tell me anything about Cuba.
Not one single, solitary thing.

I lived in Cuba for 3 1/2 years.
I worked for the Communist Government of Cuba for 3 1/2 years.
I hired, fired, trained and personally paid my Cubano employees.
I paid them approximately 10 % of their pay "up front" so the state could claw it back.
And then I paid them 90% of their pay under the table in cash so they could provide their families something to eat apart from rice and beans.
I attended meetings with various Government of Cuba officials (read the Commies) on a virtually daily basis.
My house in Varadero was provided courtesy of Fidel's system.
I still have good friends in Cuba.
I still have several business and Government contacts within the Cuban political system.

Do you?
You have no clue. Not a sniff.
Cutting and pasting dogma.
What a sorry joke.

Do you know anything about informers?
Do you know anything about Minint?
Do you know anything about work camps?
Do you know anything about food rationing?
Do you know anything about pharmaceutical and health care rationing?
Do you know about community and building " struggle groups" where your every move
is hashed over?
Do you know about the old "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work" communist
ethic?
Ever chit chat with the guards tasked with shooting families who try and escape?
Ever have take food in to an associate in a Cuban jail?
Ever have a Cuban beg you to help get his family out?
Ever have a Cuban friend beg you to smuggle in pharmecuticals for his sick kids?

You know dick all.
If I am getting a little personal I apologise.
Obviously its a topic I feel strongly about.
Obviously it's a topic I know a lot about.

I have worked for the Cubans, the Chinese and the Russians.

Please BB spare me your insights into Socialism.
My advice to you is to go live for a week or two (if you can last that long) in some of the societies you are so fond of.
Trex
 

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Well considering our competition in the Americas, it's not all that suprising. :twisted:

In regards to Cuba, there are some good things amongst the bad..... and socialism can work with democracy.... certainly a lot better the capitalism.....

any system can screw up, it all depends on who's got their hands on the wheel.
 

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I'm waitiiiiing....

You going to take that DB!?

C'mon man...show this Cuban what it is like to live in Cuba. School him on the Worker's Paradise.
 

darkbeaver

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Well actually BB I don't need to.
From your previous posts I have noticed your slavish devotion to all things Socialist.
Obviously you are utterly sold on the wonders of the Marxist/Leninist path to social justice.
Good for you.
I however believe you are a deluded idiot to buy into that failed line of drivel.

I don't need you to tell me anything about Cuba.
Not one single, solitary thing.


You have the advantage Trex you know my slavish devotion but I don't know yours, nor do I know what failed line of drivel you've bought into, other than your selection of farticle for our instruction I don't have any impression of you.
Your article is incorrect and so are you. Oh I forgot when you cut and paste dogma yourself don't you think it's a little stupid to point the dogma finger at someone else. You didn't did you stupid.
 
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Well actually BB I don't need to.
From your previous posts I have noticed your slavish devotion to all things Socialist.
Obviously you are utterly sold on the wonders of the Marxist/Leninist path to social justice.
Good for you.
I however believe you are a deluded idiot to buy into that failed line of drivel.

I don't need you to tell me anything about Cuba.
Not one single, solitary thing.


You have the advantage Trex you know my slavish devotion but I don't know yours, nor do I know what failed line of drivel you've bought into, other than your selection of farticle for our instruction I don't have any impression of you.
Your article is incorrect and so are you. Oh I forgot when you cut and paste dogma yourself don't you think it's a little stupid to point the dogma finger at someone else. You didn't did you stupid.
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Well DB I will give you one thing.
And that is I may have pounced on you a little hard.
It's probably obvious that I have strong feelings about Fidel's Cuba.
But then I lived it for a while and it's now part of my life.


To debate me on this particular point seems fairly fruitless to me.
I lived it.
You didn't.
I have walked the talk.
You just talk.
Sell the pigs and move to one of the few remaining workers paradise's.
See how you fare.
Come back in a few years and we can trade experiences.

You claim that I post cut and paste dogma just like you do.
Not really.
How else do you start a thread in the "News" section?
But that's just quibbling, lets skip the small stuff .

Do you have Communist friends (real ones that live in a Communist country)?
I do.
Have you ever helped out Communist friends and associates?
I have.
Has a Communist government ever flown you over to their nation to work within their system?
Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt.
Many times.

As to my political belief's that you are so interested in.

Obviously they are flexible and somewhat tolerant of other nations political structures.
The Communists wouldn't keep asking me to come back otherwise.
When in Rome and all that.
I believe when you are a guest in another nation you should show a little respect for their belief system.
However Communism is in my opinion struggling.
It looks good in first year Sociology and Poly- Sci.
It falls down in reality.
People get downtrodden and once you loose all hope in your society it gets heartbreaking.
But then again I am not sure that the Chinese could have done it any other way given what they had to work with at the time.
In Canada I will vote right wing.
In my personal life I am not a nanny state kinda guy.
Seen too much.

Do me a favour DB.
Spare me your advice on Cuba.

We can debate moving Canada to the right or left and the associated pro's and con's.
That way you can stay on firm ground.

Trex
 

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Trex Canada least corrupt nation in Americas
Canada least corrupt in Americas, report finds
Peter O'Neil, Europe CorrespondentCanwest News Service

Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Let's stay on topic Trex. You posted an article with a blatant misleading headline from a less than sterling source. I'm not interested in your spotty employment history. When you make your ideology clear to everyone here then maybe I'll bother playing with you. Untill then you're just a rude hot head with self control problems.:lol:
 

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Trex Canada least corrupt nation in Americas
Canada least corrupt in Americas, report finds
Peter O'Neil, Europe CorrespondentCanwest News Service

Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Let's stay on topic Trex. You posted an article with a blatant misleading headline from a less than sterling source. I'm not interested in your spotty employment history. When you make your ideology clear to everyone here then maybe I'll bother playing with you. Untill then you're just a rude hot head with self control problems.:lol:

Did you know that the Canadian Beaver is considered a pest and a parasite in most countries other than Canada in which it has escaped into the wild.

DB perhaps you forgot.
It was you who brought up Cuba.
It was you who dragged the news thread off topic.
I was the guy who completely and utterly owned you after you dragged the thread off topic.
You may not think so, but trust me on this, you don't know squat about Communism in Cuba.
I do.

So you think Canwest is a less than sterling source.
It's one of the largest chains of print MSM in Canada.
As far as Canadian MSM is concerned it's THE source.
Sorry I didn't quote Granma for you.
Granted all media is biased but hey.

And then you quote some cheesy little left wing, conspiracy theorist, Internet site as
gospel.
Wiki doesn't even have a listing for it.

Your kinda lame DB.
Everyone reading this threads can see you are incapable of answering any of my previous questions.
You have no experience at all with real world Communism or Socialism.
You seem to have no real life experiences to share apart from animal husbandary.

My so called "spotty" employment history is no such thing.
I have been doing the same job ever since I graduated from college.
I'm very good at it.
I own my own little one man company and consult all over the world.
Run an ISP check on me.
I'm posting from Europe right now.
Hard at work so to speak.

Lets talk about you.
Why are you afraid to walk the talk DB?
Go to a Communist country.
They will take you in and give you a shot at living the Socialist life.
They will, believe me.
I have chatted with lots of them and in general they are a pretty good bunch.
They will let you try their social and political lifestyle if you seem honest and interested.
Then you could be something more than a wannabe hiding in the basement.
Man up.
The world is huge and its great and life is short.
Your wasting yours.
 

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Trex

Do you?
You have no clue. Not a sniff.
Cutting and pasting dogma.
What a sorry joke.
The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC

Lets talk about you.
Why are you afraid to walk the talk DB?
Go to a Communist country.
They will take you in and give you a shot at living the Socialist life.
They will, believe me.
I have chatted with lots of them and in general they are a pretty good bunch.
They will let you try their social and political lifestyle if you seem honest and interested.
Then you could be something more than a wannabe hiding in the basement.
Man up.
The world is huge and its great and life is short.
Your wasting yours.
The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC
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Beautiful posts Trex,though I don't think that majority of the Canadians have enough interest to answer your challenge of "walking the talk" ....but then,do they know what that means ?
 

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Looks like DB is getting rolled all over on this.

C'mon DB...are you going to give Cuba a shot? Trex says they will welcome you and let you live their life in utopia. Leave this foolish west and democracy behind and get to Cuba. It is waiting for you!

He's been there... you haven't. Stop being a wannabee and live the dream baby!
 

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Trex


The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC

Would that be the ones who have said something that disagrees with the delusion ... or the ones you deem to have said something that disagrees with the delusion?

The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC
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Beautiful posts Trex,though I don't think that majority of the Canadians have enough interest to answer your challenge of "walking the talk" ....but then,do they know what that means ?

Do you?
 
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china

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The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC

Would that be the ones who have said something that disagrees with the delusion ... or the ones you deem to have said something that disagrees with the delusion?

The above applies to the majority of the respondents to my posts regarding PRC
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Beautiful posts Trex,though I don't think that majority of the Canadians have enough interest to answer your challenge of "walking the talk" ....but then,do they know what that means ?

Do you?
Wow, what a delusion .
 
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Doesn't this report really just mean we have the sneakiest politicians in the Americas?

According to the criteria for the list being sneaky is probably the greatest asset. We know our guys are expert at cover-ups.
 

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:lol:
Looks like DB is getting rolled all over on this.

C'mon DB...are you going to give Cuba a shot? Trex says they will welcome you and let you live their life in utopia. Leave this foolish west and democracy behind and get to Cuba. It is waiting for you!

He's been there... you haven't. Stop being a wannabee and live the dream baby!

Why don't you slip your room number in his panties Smack, and order another drink, maybe you'll get what you need tonight.:lol: