Quote: Originally Posted by Just the Facts
<shrug>. So how would you interpret that statement?
In a rare public statement last week, Kayani said Pakistan's sovereignty would be defended "at all cost." Abbas said Pakistani officials had to consider public opinion, which is skeptical of American goals in the region and harbors sympathy for rebels fighting in the name of Islam.
"Please look at the public reaction to this kind of adventure or incursion," Abbas said. "The army is also an extension of the public and you can only satisfy the public when you match your words with your actions."
Seems pretty clear to me. "The public supports the rebels fighting in the name of Islam (Taliban) and we're out to satisfy the public. Ergo, we support the Taliban."
I don't know where you see controversy in my translation. I'm interested.
Unless you want to blanket the entire population of Pakistan as Taliban, then you're wrong in your reading.
Let's break it down shall we?
In a rare public statement last week, Kayani said Pakistan's sovereignty would be defended "at all cost."
Which means to me that they don't like other countries stepping in on their turf, that their people expect them to do.
As an example, I sure would expect Canadian forces to defend me and kill the idiots who decide to send their troops accross our borders without our approval. The US is running through their borders, shooting on their land, and perhaps they are killing their targets, but they are also killing thier own people.... people who were in the area of the attack and probably had nothing to do with the Taliban.... much like the Afghans who are killed by the US in air strikes.
They will not allow any forign troops into their country, and they will take care of their own problems.
It would be no different then Canada having some internal problem, and the US just waltzing over our borders to kill the people they want..... there are borders for a reason.
Abbas said Pakistani officials had to consider public opinion, which is skeptical of American goals in the region and harbors sympathy for rebels fighting in the name of Islam.
The people are who should be running the government, not the government running the people. If not, then it's not really a democracy now is it? Public opinion, be that taliban support, or mostly just regular folk who support their government..... none of them was the US or any other forign country fighting and perhaps close to patrolling their streets, like what's going on in Iraq.
I sure as hell wouldn't put up with US troops and tanks rolling around downtown Halifax, you wouldn't want any nation doing what you feel your own country is capable of doing themselves.
They have sympathy for them, but that doesn't mean they support them. One can have one without the other. And when you continually hear of civilizians being killed..... usually in the double digits, all for one Taliban leader..... that's just sick, I don't care who you're fighting..... it could be Hitler's Zombie come back from the dead, there are other ways of dealing with the situation without having to kill piles of civilians, just to take out one guy.....
That's inhuman, it's overkill, and it does little for drumming up support for your cause from those you are killing.
They claim they're harboring them, or that they shouldn't allow these "Terrorists" to come back into their villages?
Well if you take the damn troops & police and leave for another location, how the hell are they supposed to defend themselves and say no? Then they go back to the allies, tell them the "Terrorists" came back to their village and need help.... the US air strikes and kills everyone....... how the hell is that helping them?
No wonder why they have sympathy..... The people who are supposed to be helping them, are killing them..... you go for the lesser of two evils..... kinda like politics, only their situation is more serious.
I have sympathy for the civilians who are always stuck in the middle, but does that mean I support what random decisions they may make?
Not to mention, the part which is skeptical of American goals in the region and harbors sympathy for rebels fighting in the name of Islam
.... is a thrown in comment by the writer to make a quick rundown of the details.... but none of this is from the words of the people in pakistan. Not only that, but if you read it properly, there are people who are skeptical, and people who harbour sympathy, there are people who also support, and some who fight..... but this description is not an absolute, nor does it give any information on how much of the population thinks one or the other.... or both.
I imagine, based on many reports I've read in recent, many do not support terrorists of any kind as they harm everyone, but they probably still wouldn't want forign troops into their country. As stated before, look at Iraq, look at Afghanistan.... do you think they want their nation like that?
If that happens in Pakistan and they become detabilized, what security would be still in place for their nukes? Who could get ahold of them?
The other problem in what is going on right now, is that they now have a new government, who now has to put in their own plans on how to deal with the situation. Everything has been getting worse and worse in the past, right up to today..... why?
He barely did jack squat in the territory.... all the while taking in Billions from the US, while the Taliban seemed to keep getting stronger and stronger after getting pushed to defeat.... how many years ago?
Please look at the public reaction to this kind of adventure or incursion," Abbas said.
^ Please think about what the public of Canada's reaction would be if the US, or Russia, or Iceland started to unload their troops inside Canadian borders. Most Canadians got pissed enough by the US subs popping up out of the waters in our territory up north in 2005.... and before that as well...... imagine if troops and arms started to come onto our land
The reactions would remain very much the same.
"The army is also an extension of the public and you can only satisfy the public when you match your words with your actions."
Their nation and how it and the military is run is done much different then how most of us understand how it works.
Look it up:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_Pakistan (external - login to view)
None of this directly means anything in regards to them supporting the Taliban as you said.
Before I finish, let's look at what Support and Sympathy both mean shall we?
• To provide for or maintain, by supplying with money or necessities.
• To aid the cause, policy, or interests of
• To argue in favor of; advocate
• A relationship or an affinity between people or things in which whatever affects one correspondingly affects the other.
• Mutual understanding or affection arising from this relationship or affinity.
• The act or power of sharing the feelings of another.
• feeling or an expression of pity or sorrow for the distress of another; compassion or commiseration. Often used in the plural. See Synonyms at pity.
To me, there's a difference.