Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert
Sorry, but I didn't say it was an insult; I said it is abusive. Again you display your lack of comprehensive abilities.
I know exactly what you said, and I attempt to reduce my personal insults to a minimum.... as it goes for "Abusive"
I couldn't give a sh*t... it's words, deal with it.
I don't have to suck hole anybody to say what I have to say.... and quite honestly, saying it as I see it tends to get the message across a lot faster then pampering people's sensitive eyes from words they might find mean.
Not really. I understand you. You want to voice your opinion and get cranky when you don't get the answerrs you think are the right ones.
As case in point in a couple of posts above.... you're wrong.
You tell someone else that they see black and white, yet you demand yes & no answers. Sorry, not everyone wants to follow your rules if you won't follow them yourself.
Well gee sorry, but it seems like the question and debate was too complex for some, so I dumbed it down a little to a yes and no question.... now you complain it's too simple.... geez... sometimes you just can't please a person.... always "I want this I want that, Gimmie gimmie gimmie."
Don't make me turn this car around.... I swear we'll all go home and never see Disney Land.
Sometimes you don't have the choice to leave them alone. But apparently that never occured to you.
And I'll repeat myself, yet again, and again, and again.... I already said there are some situations where there is no option..... but as I also said before, and again, and I'll say it again.... Shooting animals isn't always the solution either..... such as the chipmunks you mentioned.... I can't remember the last time I ever had to gun down a chipmunk because he was a danger.
Lucky you. Did you have a chicken coop? Did you have fruit crops? Did you have a feed shed?
Do you have things called fences? Do you have things called locks? Do you have things like Motion Sensor Lights? There's all kinds of things one can use.
Who shoots every animal? Again a display of incomprehension. Where did I say I shot all animals that come here? The last one I shot was the cougar that the intention of raiding my chicken coop 2 years ago. Sorry I didn't think of waiting the few hours till the CO got here. The time before that was the blackbear that was raiding my fruit trees. I pumped two rounds of salt into its backside.
And you know something? And old trick my family has used for their camps on the lake and farms when they had to deal with bears breaking in or stealing food, was to take fishing net and drape it over the doors, or around the trees or food. The majority of bears with sense this as a trap and leave well alone.... in fact, the last time my grandparents camp was raided by a bear was back when I was still in school before they started to do that.
The bear leaves well enough alone, we leave them well enough alone, and everybody lives.
Guess you didn't consider asking me how frequently I shoot critters, though. Can't do that. More fun to just leap to conclusions I shoot everything in sight because I offered a few examples. You really should get over your attitude problem.
I only reflect what's given my way. You like to generalize, so I'll generalize for you, since it seems to be a hobby of yours.... oh, but now you're getting all pissy because it's not working on me.... oh.... too bad *Makes a Sad Face*
Nevermind. I prefer not to have people like you here.
Well gee, too bad that decision isn't up to you. If I had all the time in the world, I'd move right next door to you, since our friendship is going oh so well so far.... I think we could be the bestest of buddies.
Then again, there's probably plenty of people like me surrounding you where you live already..... I suppose I should hold the fort in my neck of the woods.
You'd do as you pleased without bothering to find out if you'd be interfering with things.
Asking questions, raising topics, debating things and talking is one thing.... doing is another. As it stands, I'm not interfering with anything, other then your peaceful day.... but you can always just move onto another topic... I can do this forever.
Ah. So I am supposed to find a place for my chicken coop and fruit trees that won't be bothered by critters? Sorry, but inside my house isn't a feasible place for them. I don't have a problem with my garbage bags. And most of the compost goes to feeding the chickens, the rest goes to the gardens. My feed shed has been reinforced since the old grizzly tore a wall apart to get at the feed. The CO got that one. He just happened to be in the area.
There is such a thing as the internet which holds all kinds of other affordable, more effective, and less time consuming approaches one can take for each paticular situation and location. Since I don't know the details of the size of your land, the amount of animals in your care, the amount of wild animal encounters you have on a regular basis, I am not about to shoot off all kinds of things which may never work.
The garbage thing was just one example of a recent problem we had to deal with, where something simple worked far better then us chasing around an animal in the dark.
Evil, as opposed to being Good.
Nah. You were provoking people into giving you reasons why they think they should have firearms.
It worked didn't it?
But my apologies if I didn't clarify that I personally had no issue with hunting or sporting events.... My focus, which I thought was obvious, was towards the generic availability of firearms for anybody in regards to using them against other humans.
Well, a little while ago you posted that you wanted a simple yes or no answer. If that isn't B&W simplistic to you, then I can't help you.
The Yes was for the ability to go further into the reasons why you think "Yes" as with No, you would clearly be stating that you personally didn't feel there was an issue... you would have stated your opinion, and that was all that was needed.... I just wanted to check out the general feedback on people and where the majority/minority stood on the subject.
If you don't feel there is a problem, by all means, state why if you like.... if you think there is a problem, like I do, then by all means, state why and for bonus points, you can offer your own solutions or ideas.... I'm open to it all.
But when people go into side arguments that don't really relate, such as this whole long winded argument between you and I on how we post and argue (As it has nothing really to do with the original conversation) it side tracks the whole thing in a very big way... as it should be very obvious by now, since we're going into two pages of bitching about the same crap over and over again.
I know we're doing this, and I'll keep doing it until it is reconized.
I know enough of you to not want to be around when you have a firearm handy.
Personally, I'm quite capable with a firearm, not to mention responsible. I've taken the proper training and background checks during my training.... that is the argument I am supporting.... proper training and background checks for people prior to them being handed a gun.
You have a temper problem and I would hate to see what you are like after you start ignoring the rational and pass the namecalling stage.
A former Roman Catholic Irish Male from a Fishing/Military family with a Father as a school teacher in the school you went to has a slight Temper?
Heavens to Betsy! Say it isn't so! *slaps cheecks*
I don't have a temper problem, I have an attitude problem, please get it straight. The moment I stop using sarcasm, then you might start to see a temper.... but you have yet to see anything remotely towards what I would call a temper.
Sorry, you beat me to it. And if I don't read things the way you think I should, then perhaps you could learn English a little better.
Meh, why should I stop my whole life just to suit your reading abilities?
Of course everyone is wrong except you. You aren't ever wrong.
You know.... I'm starting to get this whole Jesus Christ impression.... You and others continually claim I say I'm always right and everybody else is wrong, when I have never said that.
Pull more sh*t out of your *** if you like, it's all still gonna smell the same.
And then "bitched and moaned" when other people mentioned gun laws and stated their opinions of them. Sorry, but it is a two way street in the forum. You don't get to voice your opinion and then keep others from voicing theirs.
No, people bitch and moan when I don't entertain their little side track arguments, such as how I'm entertaining this load of crap right now..... but see if I didn't do this, you'd be all in an even worse uproar then you currently are now, and chances are I'll be changed from someone with a "Temper and Attitude Problem" to a Nazi Forum member.
Ah, so no-one can make examples except you either. Sorry, but again, it's a two way street.
Oh, I know. You're making a perfect example right now.
The general topic is unnatural deaths.
The topic is about unnatural deaths? Gee, if I wanted to simplify things like that, I could just claim the topic is about "Human Interaction."
You picked death by firearms as an example. Other throw in death by vehicle, knife, fists, etc. with your example. Too bad. "Suck it up" as you say. And move on.
The report originally posted was related to gun violence and deaths related to guns.... if you think cars are a related example, then your imagination is a lot more wild then my own.
Simplify it then rather than spewing abuse, child.
And you claim I'm the d*ck? You know if I was such a jerk, why are you stooping to my level.... Grampa? Keep it up smart ***... I can do this for a lot longer then you can.
And Child isn't going to affect me none... it just keeps reminding me that you're going to die of old age long before I do.
[b]Again, it is a two way street, if people don't want to be "steered" the way you want, that's tough.
Too bad... start your own damn thread and stay out of mine if you don't like it.
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Well, you did. So?
You can't hi-jack a topic on the very first post, which is the post that creates the topic.... use your head.
You started the concept of debate by posting the article of the deaths in the church and highlighted parts of the article in red. If you don't think people think you were focusing their attention on what concepts you were thinking about, why the red highlights? Seems pretty easy to understand to me. Sorry it is too complicated for you.
I highlight anything I feel others, for whatever reason, may find interesting or might relate to them in a topic, and to perhaps help them find parts of the article they want to read, beyond the none important or repetative parts of the article.
Is that too complicated for you? I know exactly why I do the things I do, and trust me, I think about what I am about to say or do before I do it.
Sorry but I don't think you comprehend the meaning of the word "consistent".
Your continual bitching about me rather then actually focusing on the topic is pretty consistent... is that a good enough explination for you, oh grand master of words?
lol Ahhh, here we go again, everyone else screwed up. Apparently you suffer from a god complex as well as a dictator complex.
See, there you go with not reading things again..... are you sure you shouldn't be on some sort of medication for that problem?
I never said "Everyone Else Screwed Up"
I said "Others Screwed Up"
which is a general classification of a select few.... not all.
And just because I take the time and effort to follow as many of the rules as humanly possible at one time, doesn't make me a God.... that just means I'm not lazy like you.
And the Dictator thing will come eventually.... first I have to win the world over with my Dr. House / Pierre Trudeau charm of not giving a rats *** of what other's think of me.
Well, I can't help it. I am human. No god complexes.
Well that's good.... not everybody can handle that level of power.
Well if that's the case.....
Sorry again, but I do understand you.