Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov
Cars on the Roads and Highways?
And the Roads, and the Cafes, and any store thats roadside, and parking lots.
Quite frankly, you have to worry about them everywhere you worry about legal guns. Cause if your worrying about guns in your home, that means someone is already breaking the law to bust in, and they have the intent to harm you because they are armed.
That makes no sense at all.
I have to worry about cars everywhere I have to worry about "Legal" guns? Where I live, the only "Legal" guns around are either on police officers, military police at the nearby base, or deep deep in the dank dark woods in the hands of someone hunting some food... far far away from where I live..... as there is no hunting within such and such a proximity to homes.
Most people around here, don't carry guns in the first place, because #1, there's no need... and #2, unless you're going to break a law, why else would you have a gun on you in the first place? (If you think you're going to get robbed or attacked at any moment of any day, then you need to seek therapy)
If you need a handgun to defend yourself on an everyday basis where you live, then that says something about the place you live.
And the question is very much the same. Do you restrict peoples freedom to own useful tools on the basis that you assume they are by default, incompetant. And if they are incompetant by default, why do you let them vote.
#1, A hammer, screwdriver, a *****, a computer are tools..... a firearm is a weapon, designed to be a weapon, designed to kill, very much like a bomb, nerve gas, and such.... not fix things. I'm sure you can try and nail a few boards together with a gun, but it won't work very well.
#2, you should have a right to defend yourself, but you shouldn't have the right to kill someone, and no matter how much you or anybody else shouts "It's a right! it's a freedom!"
it still doesn't solve the problem of the millions of people who abuse that right.... that freedom to terrorize your other rights and other freedoms.
If you're living a life where you don't get jumped or attacked on an everyday basis and you feel safe where you live, and you have never needed to use or posess a firearm in any paticular time in your life, you have no enemies, nobody out to get you, and for the most part.... if you have a gun, and it's sitting home collecting dust in between the times you take it to the range..... then you certainly won't miss it and you clearly don't need it.
If you do need it and you're being attacked all the time, being robbed, people are out to get you and you live day in and day out wondering if you're going to die..... then perhaps you should move. And doesn't that tell you something about the police force in your neighborhood? Be it the police and societies fault, or your own actions which cause people to come after you in which you fear your life all the time..... that sounds like a really sh*tty place to live if you ask me.
As it goes for people being incompetant by default when it comes to the use of firearms, I say yes.... you hand someone a gun who's never held, let alone used a gun before, they're not going to be all that great, not to mention safe.
Just like you can't just toss someone into a car and throw them on the highway to fend for themselves without any education......
.... oh and that's the difference between your car / gun comparison.... people need training to get their lisence to drive.... with guns, you just need your drivers lisence in most States and you get a gun.... even though your drivers lisence doesn't cover how to operate a firearm. Does that make sense? Nope. Just to see that you're old enough to have a gun, and that you live in that state and you can get one.
Great background check.
As for voting.... that's not even remotely the same, and although this is another long straw, I'll entertain that for a bit as well.
Everybody has the right to express their opinions and concerns, and words don't directly kill. People can have the right to decide who will have their best interests at play, but those same people don't have the right to decide who lives and who dies with a gun. A vote is a non-violent action.... where you pick someone on a card in a little booth and continue on with your life like everyone else..... nobody's health and/or life are at risk by those actions.
Oh but you're gonna say the politician they voted in killed a bunch of people, and hince was a weapon and the people who voted the guy in are responsible? No.... People who vote are responsible for the person they selected to lead their country..... the person leading their country is responsible for their own decisions they made that may have killed people. Unless the voter actually voted for the direct killing of someone, they are not responsible.
I mean, seriously, how far down the rabbit blame hole are you wanting to go? Blame the people who killed an innocent? Blame the Politician for his decisions that allowed those people to kill an innocent? Blame the people who voted in that politician? Blame their parents for giving birth to the voter? Blame their parents before them and the votes they made that led up to this point?
Geez.... eventually you're going to get down to blaming God.... and why not with that mentality?
A firearm isn't a tool, or a car, or a vote.... it's a weapon, and just because you hit adult age to use a car, or to vote, or work in construction, all of those things have a level of training and education to them, including voting, as there are continual ads and information being bombarded to us everytime to know where each person stands.
Got a lisence? Ok, here's a gun and some ammo.... figure it out for yourself.... have fun.
Yeah, wonderful comparisons.