Quote: Originally Posted by quandary121
this i agree with you is correct, men do get the bad deal when custody is the issue
but were not discussing custody were discussing the responsibility , years ago the child's welfare would of been considered ,and it was the mans job to look after the family, now that women's lib has given the women the rights that they have now there is no responsibility for the father to stick around.
There is plenty of responsibility for the father to stick around.... those who don't are spineless chicken sh*ts who were never taught how to accept the responsibility for their own actions in life and ditch the child off on the mother and think they can get away with it, which they can't unless they're really good at hiding from the police.
But there are many other situations that could have created the original new situation above. The mother could have hid the pregnancy from others, or at least tried to. She could have had a big orgy with a bunch of guys, got pregnant, doesn't know who the father is. There could have been pressures from family.... the father could have died.... and so on....
But if you're trying to connect this situation with her being ditched by the guy who got her pregnant, I haven't heard those details related to this case, and focusing more on that explination more then any other, such as the ones I posted above.... begins to skew the whole thing away from the actual details given.
maybe i was generalizing ,but my point was that women's lib has done the woman no favors.this was not meant as a sweeping statement on the failings of men but on the falling of society to both sexes.
That's what happens in a Politically Correct society... everybody fights so much for equal rights that by the time they're done, they end up with more rights and responsibilities then the group they were fighting against. Now we have gender and race quotas companies need to meet when hiring people..... forget about their actual education, experience and talent.... if you're short one female or a black guy to fill in your quota, they get the position over the white male, regardless if the white male was more qualified. This isn't always the case, but there has been enough complaints since this whole sore of PC crap has started that it is apparent that it exists.
Then there's the whole concept where a white male might get a job over someone who is less qualified and who is either female or of a minority race.... they ask why they didn't get the job, they're told this guy was more qualified, and the next thing you know, the company is getting sued because they felt they wern't being hired because of their race or gender..... perhaps both.
^ But isn't that sort of counter racist when you have quotas set by the government stating you have to have a certain amount of females and/or race mix in your company? You are then specifically picking who works in your company based on their race and/or gender, all the while white males are potientially excluded because they're not in the quota..... and who do we have to go complain to when this occurs? Nobody, because it's not about race or gender apparently..... even though I didn't get the job because I'm a man.
I am guessing you're not aware of the local mall near where I live and most of the companies which work there:
My ex girlfriend used to work in a card shop in the mall, and for the year and a half she worked there, it was all girls who worked at the company. Every single time she saw a man drop off a resume, the owner chucked it into the garbage without looking at it as soon as they left. Her explination was that males are unreliable, don't take the job seriously, and she can work better with other women. Apparently her store wasn't the only one which did this, as the majority of the people who work in the companies in the mall are all women... hell a few years back I dropped off a few resumes when I was looking for something steady, and I got nothing..... and it was due to my gender.
I know this, nor from assumptions and just by one person telling me what was going on in the background, but from many other old friends who worked in that same mall, who have seen and experienced the exact same things of where resumes were chucked, all because the person who handed it in was a man.
But does anybody do anything about it? Nope.... Why? Because society doesn't like men who complain about inequality.... apparently we haven't had enough of it over the last number of centuries to bitch.... even though I never treated anybody un-equally or like scum as I am treated like sometimes..... I guess we just have to suck it up. And besides.... fighting legally to get into a sexist company who doesn't want you in the first place doesn't seem practical..... since even if you did win the case and got the job, you'd still be treated like sh*t.... probably even worse since you exposed how sexist your boss is towards your gender.
So it's not just the women's liberational side of things that screwed up.... it's not just the racial equality groups who screwed things up..... it's the whole.
But this sort of situation where a mother kills her newborn isn't related to any of this... at least not to the extent it seems to be made out to be. This sort of thing has been going on forever.... the only difference now, is that we have the knowlege and technology to track down the people who commit these sorts of acts, while in the past it would have gone on forever and we'd never know who was responsible.