May 6th, 2008, 06:30 PM
Quoting Praxius
I kicked one in the nuts once. That put a stop to things quick.
The funny thing is that most just don't seem to be aware of just how easy it is to take down a dog with just one hand sometimes.... including when they're running full tilt at ya.
I mean, with cats you got teeth and four sets of sharp ass claws to deal with, but with a dog, you just got their teeth/jaws to worry about. Grab their snout, either top or bottom, squeeze real tight and you can twist then any which way you want, and they can not apply pressure easily to bite you or tear you up. Your fingers might get a little sore against the teeth and a shaking head from an angry dog, but they can not bite down to any noticable degree and you can use their entire weight against them, or they'll either end up with a broken jaw or a broken neck.
I've used it on several sized dogs and can throw/pin them on their back in seconds rendering them pretty helpless.
I wonder, has anybody else ever tried this tactic, or did I even explain it right for understanding?
I mean, with cats you got teeth and four sets of sharp ass claws to deal with, but with a dog, you just got their teeth/jaws to worry about. Grab their snout, either top or bottom, squeeze real tight and you can twist then any which way you want, and they can not apply pressure easily to bite you or tear you up. Your fingers might get a little sore against the teeth and a shaking head from an angry dog, but they can not bite down to any noticable degree and you can use their entire weight against them, or they'll either end up with a broken jaw or a broken neck.
I've used it on several sized dogs and can throw/pin them on their back in seconds rendering them pretty helpless.
I wonder, has anybody else ever tried this tactic, or did I even explain it right for understanding?
Bright Spark
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May 6th, 2008, 06:51 PM
Karrie I agree with you, I work in the veterinary field and have been bitten many many times. The breeds that more often show the signs of aggressiveness are the small breeds. The ones that people just think that it is soo cute that only one person can actually touch it! Most of my bites have come from shih tzus, min pins and cats (Karrie I can sympathize with the medical treatment from the cat bite).
The thing about large dogs is that the majority are very good dogs, we see very few large aggressive dogs because that sort of behavior is stopped at the first sign, it is simply not allowed because they can cause so much more damage. There are a lot of responsible owners out there.
I actually really like pitbulls, rotties, mastiffs (my fav!) and dobbies!
In this situation though, the dogs should not have been running free in a playground, thats what off leash areas are for. But also the dog started out by licking the boy (not to say that this is at all his fault) but perhaps the boy freaked out and paniced causing a panic response from the dog.
I think a lot of people need to learn not to be afraid and to stay calm.
At the clinic we often see clients come in with their little dogs running at the end of their extendable leashes barking and snapping at calm relaxed big dogs and the small dog client says how unsafe big dogs are! Yeshh!
Karrie I agree with you, I work in the veterinary field and have been bitten many many times. The breeds that more often show the signs of aggressiveness are the small breeds. The ones that people just think that it is soo cute that only one person can actually touch it! Most of my bites have come from shih tzus, min pins and cats (Karrie I can sympathize with the medical treatment from the cat bite).
The thing about large dogs is that the majority are very good dogs, we see very few large aggressive dogs because that sort of behavior is stopped at the first sign, it is simply not allowed because they can cause so much more damage. There are a lot of responsible owners out there.
I actually really like pitbulls, rotties, mastiffs (my fav!) and dobbies!
In this situation though, the dogs should not have been running free in a playground, thats what off leash areas are for. But also the dog started out by licking the boy (not to say that this is at all his fault) but perhaps the boy freaked out and paniced causing a panic response from the dog.
I think a lot of people need to learn not to be afraid and to stay calm.
At the clinic we often see clients come in with their little dogs running at the end of their extendable leashes barking and snapping at calm relaxed big dogs and the small dog client says how unsafe big dogs are! Yeshh!
Super Genius
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May 6th, 2008, 08:01 PM
Large or small is not the issue. The Pits should not have been lose.
Also a small dog may bite but it is not going to rip your newborn apart.... larger dogs left alone with babies have done that.
A well socialized animal should behave but why one would take the chance is beyond belief. That kid is going to be messed for a long time.
Large or small is not the issue. The Pits should not have been lose.
Also a small dog may bite but it is not going to rip your newborn apart.... larger dogs left alone with babies have done that.
A well socialized animal should behave but why one would take the chance is beyond belief. That kid is going to be messed for a long time.
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May 6th, 2008, 08:33 PM
Pitbulls - or rather Staffordshire terriers - one of the most loveable and dumb mutts I ever had. It is all about the owner and the way the dogs are socialized. He adored all kids and the kids could do with him whatever they wanted.
The only time I ever saw him ever really get riled up, was when we used to go walking and there was this irritating mongrel who used to come out of his yard and go yapping about two yards behind us while my pooch was being walked on his leash. By the third walk he had enough and it took all my strengh to stop him going after the other dog, I swear I thought he was going to kill him if he caught him.
Pitbulls - or rather Staffordshire terriers - one of the most loveable and dumb mutts I ever had. It is all about the owner and the way the dogs are socialized. He adored all kids and the kids could do with him whatever they wanted.
The only time I ever saw him ever really get riled up, was when we used to go walking and there was this irritating mongrel who used to come out of his yard and go yapping about two yards behind us while my pooch was being walked on his leash. By the third walk he had enough and it took all my strengh to stop him going after the other dog, I swear I thought he was going to kill him if he caught him.
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May 7th, 2008, 07:46 AM
I wonder why it is that no one will institute regulations on breeding? Anyone who wants to can breed dogs. This is probably the worst thing that has happened to dogs. Any dog regardless of the breed is no danger to anyone or anything if it's kept in the right hands.
Bred correctly and raised right, an APBT or Amstaff would never get the chance to get into trouble in the first place. It's when someone who doesn't know what they are doing gets a hold of a couple of dogs and starts breeding for all the wrong reasons, only to look for a way to get rid of the pups, mostly to suckers who don't know better.
I wonder why it is that no one will institute regulations on breeding? Anyone who wants to can breed dogs. This is probably the worst thing that has happened to dogs. Any dog regardless of the breed is no danger to anyone or anything if it's kept in the right hands.
Bred correctly and raised right, an APBT or Amstaff would never get the chance to get into trouble in the first place. It's when someone who doesn't know what they are doing gets a hold of a couple of dogs and starts breeding for all the wrong reasons, only to look for a way to get rid of the pups, mostly to suckers who don't know better.
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May 7th, 2008, 08:03 AM
I had a black and white mongrel attack me while I was walking home from work...(a few years ago...) and knowing I would be walking that way again next time I left work, I obtained a two by three of oak about three feet long and took it with me....
Almost "on-cue" this dog came barrelling down the driveway from where he lives and leaped for my throat.... I did my best Babe Ruth imitation and drove for the fence, contacting the attacking dog squarely on the head just above the eyes..... Dog went down and stayed down....... nice dog.
I had a black and white mongrel attack me while I was walking home from work...(a few years ago...) and knowing I would be walking that way again next time I left work, I obtained a two by three of oak about three feet long and took it with me....
Almost "on-cue" this dog came barrelling down the driveway from where he lives and leaped for my throat.... I did my best Babe Ruth imitation and drove for the fence, contacting the attacking dog squarely on the head just above the eyes..... Dog went down and stayed down....... nice dog.
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May 7th, 2008, 10:30 AM
Update:
B.C. boy recovering from pit bull attack
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...tbull-boy.html
Update:
B.C. boy recovering from pit bull attack
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...tbull-boy.html
Quote:
A boy who was mauled by a pair of pit bulls on a Surrey, B.C., playground on Sunday says he shivers when he thinks about the attack.
"I hurt a lot — my arm, my face," Sean Bajwa, 11, told reporters on Tuesday while sitting in a wheelchair at Surrey Memorial hospital, numerous stitches on the right side of his face, his arms wrapped in bandages.
Bajwa, 11, was playing basketball with friends when he saw the two pit bulls wander onto the court.
"They started to walk towards me," he recalled. "I got scared, tried to get away, but I tripped and then they were all over me. They started licking me and then all of the sudden they bite me on my leg and both my arms. I couldn't feel a thing because all the skin was gone — like, there was like pieces of skin on their faces, on the dogs' faces."
He said he feels shivers and is having trouble sleeping, but hopes to go home in a couple of days.
Bajwa said he was grateful to Jordan Slezak, 20, the neighbour whose quick action may have saved his life. When Slezak saw what was happening, he grabbed a baseball bat and struck one of the dogs twice before it released Bajwa.
Bajwa blamed the owner of the dogs for the attack, and thinks both animals should be destroyed.
Both dogs are now in the custody of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and at least one of them has been determined to be dangerous, SPCA manager Janice Levers said Tuesday.
The male pit bull "is definitely a dangerous dog. He's very concerning to me, with the severity of this attack," she said.
Levers said the SPCA has located the dogs' owner, and are talking to him about the dogs' future.
The SPCA is also looking into the dogs' history, and is interviewing neighbours to see whether any other complaints have been made about them.
"I hurt a lot — my arm, my face," Sean Bajwa, 11, told reporters on Tuesday while sitting in a wheelchair at Surrey Memorial hospital, numerous stitches on the right side of his face, his arms wrapped in bandages.
Bajwa, 11, was playing basketball with friends when he saw the two pit bulls wander onto the court.
"They started to walk towards me," he recalled. "I got scared, tried to get away, but I tripped and then they were all over me. They started licking me and then all of the sudden they bite me on my leg and both my arms. I couldn't feel a thing because all the skin was gone — like, there was like pieces of skin on their faces, on the dogs' faces."
He said he feels shivers and is having trouble sleeping, but hopes to go home in a couple of days.
Bajwa said he was grateful to Jordan Slezak, 20, the neighbour whose quick action may have saved his life. When Slezak saw what was happening, he grabbed a baseball bat and struck one of the dogs twice before it released Bajwa.
Bajwa blamed the owner of the dogs for the attack, and thinks both animals should be destroyed.
Both dogs are now in the custody of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and at least one of them has been determined to be dangerous, SPCA manager Janice Levers said Tuesday.
The male pit bull "is definitely a dangerous dog. He's very concerning to me, with the severity of this attack," she said.
Levers said the SPCA has located the dogs' owner, and are talking to him about the dogs' future.
The SPCA is also looking into the dogs' history, and is interviewing neighbours to see whether any other complaints have been made about them.
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May 7th, 2008, 11:36 AM
So I was 15 and I had a buddy who had a male German Sheppard. Very aggressive and trained to attack. His Dad was a former Marine MP (leave it to us Marines) and just had that type of personality. The dog HATED me and I was scared to death of it. It was big, and mean. Whenever I would go over there and get the signal...
"Come on in Steve"
The dog would fly at me barking causing my buddy to pull him (Klink...the dogs name) back. But it would still bark and growl until it settled. This went on for years. The dog just didn't like me.
The final straw was one night upon hearing me knock on the door invited me in from the couch as he read the paper. The dog a little late on hearing the knock saw me and lunged on my chest. It was face to face with me barking and the Dad calmly said w/o looking up from the paper...
"Knock it off Klink."
The dog stayed on my chest, bareing it's teeth and growling.
"Knock it off Klink"
Still growling. I thought it was going to bite my face. Finally the Dad looks up from the paper...
"Get down off him Klink...c'mere boy...sit..." the dog FINALLY got off my chest and sat down as he pet it's head "Richie! (my buddy's name) Steve is here."
THAT WAS IT! I was going to get that dog.
I found a piece of sidewalk and hit it below a bush on my buddy's street. A lot of times they would just leave the dog on the porch and whenever it saw me it would run off the porch to greet me as he had for years...barking and growling.
One night I was heading over the house and saw Klink on the porch. I got the piece of concrete and hid it behind my back. It was nice and dark and between street lights...perfect. He came off the porch only this time instead of running I taunted him. He got really aggressive...more so than ever and was about to lunge when I came down on his head with the concrete. I let him have it and the dog went yelping...I took off the other way.
So...from that day forth whenever that dog got aggressive I reached behind my back as if I had a rock and the dog INSTANTLY turned away with his ears down and tail between his legs.
Quoting karrie
Ok...
of course eagle
So I was 15 and I had a buddy who had a male German Sheppard. Very aggressive and trained to attack. His Dad was a former Marine MP (leave it to us Marines) and just had that type of personality. The dog HATED me and I was scared to death of it. It was big, and mean. Whenever I would go over there and get the signal...
"Come on in Steve"
The dog would fly at me barking causing my buddy to pull him (Klink...the dogs name) back. But it would still bark and growl until it settled. This went on for years. The dog just didn't like me.
The final straw was one night upon hearing me knock on the door invited me in from the couch as he read the paper. The dog a little late on hearing the knock saw me and lunged on my chest. It was face to face with me barking and the Dad calmly said w/o looking up from the paper...
"Knock it off Klink."
The dog stayed on my chest, bareing it's teeth and growling.
"Knock it off Klink"
Still growling. I thought it was going to bite my face. Finally the Dad looks up from the paper...
"Get down off him Klink...c'mere boy...sit..." the dog FINALLY got off my chest and sat down as he pet it's head "Richie! (my buddy's name) Steve is here."
THAT WAS IT! I was going to get that dog.
I found a piece of sidewalk and hit it below a bush on my buddy's street. A lot of times they would just leave the dog on the porch and whenever it saw me it would run off the porch to greet me as he had for years...barking and growling.
One night I was heading over the house and saw Klink on the porch. I got the piece of concrete and hid it behind my back. It was nice and dark and between street lights...perfect. He came off the porch only this time instead of running I taunted him. He got really aggressive...more so than ever and was about to lunge when I came down on his head with the concrete. I let him have it and the dog went yelping...I took off the other way.
So...from that day forth whenever that dog got aggressive I reached behind my back as if I had a rock and the dog INSTANTLY turned away with his ears down and tail between his legs.
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May 7th, 2008, 11:43 AM
Anyone who lets the dog run at large in a playground - where kids just naturally run - deserves to have his testicles slammed in a car door. Imagine.... Forcing the pooch to display an owner's lunacy....
Anyone who lets the dog run at large in a playground - where kids just naturally run - deserves to have his testicles slammed in a car door. Imagine.... Forcing the pooch to display an owner's lunacy....
May 7th, 2008, 11:47 AM
I know that growing up on the farm, this sort of method got used with animals a lot. One was a cow that constantly kicked whenever anyone would go near it. Hiding a shovel behind his back until he got near was how dad cured the cow of that. Taking it out once the cow could no longer see him, and having the shovel blade firmly positioned to catch the flying leg, cured the cow of any desire to kick people on the very first try.
Quoting EagleSmack
While I can't say I support the intentional targeting of a dog, with some animals it seems the only way for them to get past the other conditioning and issues that have come into play in their behavior, is to face a physical repercussion.
So...from that day forth whenever that dog got aggressive I reached behind my back as if I had a rock and the dog INSTANTLY turned away with his ears down and tail between his legs.
I know that growing up on the farm, this sort of method got used with animals a lot. One was a cow that constantly kicked whenever anyone would go near it. Hiding a shovel behind his back until he got near was how dad cured the cow of that. Taking it out once the cow could no longer see him, and having the shovel blade firmly positioned to catch the flying leg, cured the cow of any desire to kick people on the very first try.
Clever Clogs
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May 7th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Some dogs are beautifully trained- When I was a kid I had a Sheperd(sandy) while I was at school she stayed in the yard. One day I was being chased by the neighbourhood bullies, after a block of running flat out I got home just ahead of them and flung open the gate "Get em Girl" I said the dog came snarling out of the yard looked at me and I pointed to the ring leader, this kid took off and tried to scale the neihgbours fence in a desperate attempt to escape. too late she ripped the a** out of his pants before I could call her off- You know what, I never had a problem with those kids ever again. I still miss that damn dog.
Some dogs are beautifully trained- When I was a kid I had a Sheperd(sandy) while I was at school she stayed in the yard. One day I was being chased by the neighbourhood bullies, after a block of running flat out I got home just ahead of them and flung open the gate "Get em Girl" I said the dog came snarling out of the yard looked at me and I pointed to the ring leader, this kid took off and tried to scale the neihgbours fence in a desperate attempt to escape. too late she ripped the a** out of his pants before I could call her off- You know what, I never had a problem with those kids ever again. I still miss that damn dog.
May 7th, 2008, 12:10 PM
Quoting Lester
my dog was a really well tempered, calm dog. Loved everyone. Then I got pregnant. She's been getting incrementally more aggressive and paranoid since. She HAS to be between me and any man who shows up at the house, or she goes berserk. She's never bit anyone, but she is right there, demanding that they acknowledge that she will if they try anything stupid. I think the instant one of my kids came home in a panic like that being chased, she'd probably do the same thing.
Some dogs are beautifully trained- When I was a kid I had a Sheperd(sandy) while I was at school she stayed in the yard. One day I was being chased by the neighbourhood bullies, after a block of running flat out I got home just ahead of them and flung open the gate "Get em Girl" I said the dog came snarling out of the yard looked at me and I pointed to the ring leader, this kid took off and tried to scale the neihgbours fence in a desperate attempt to escape. too late she ripped the a** out of his pants before I could call her off- You know what, I never had a problem with those kids ever again. I still miss that damn dog.
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Location: Vancouver Island
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May 7th, 2008, 12:44 PM
The boy has about 100 stiches, and he was lucky, as the man who saved him, was
not far away and heard him.
I am amazed that, they are going to put the dog down, 'if the owner agrees'. The owner
should automatically lose any authority to have any say, the dog should be put down,
it is obvious that somewhere during the dogs upbringing, there was abuse or lack of
nurturing for the animal, too late now. There is a difference between a pitt bull and
most other dogs, and the fact that those dogs were running loose in a park, is like
leaving a 'land mine' laying in the park, with children playing.
The young man who saved the boy, said there was two little girls playing a little way away
from the incident, and he was worried for them too, so, what might have happened if
he hadn't come by, just imagine.
I have raised dogs for many years, and I know how important the first year is, in the lif e
of a dog. Many people just don't have a clue, and that often turns out to be the
downfall of the dog, and some stranger/child who might be in the wrong place at the wrong
time.
The boy has about 100 stiches, and he was lucky, as the man who saved him, was
not far away and heard him.
I am amazed that, they are going to put the dog down, 'if the owner agrees'. The owner
should automatically lose any authority to have any say, the dog should be put down,
it is obvious that somewhere during the dogs upbringing, there was abuse or lack of
nurturing for the animal, too late now. There is a difference between a pitt bull and
most other dogs, and the fact that those dogs were running loose in a park, is like
leaving a 'land mine' laying in the park, with children playing.
The young man who saved the boy, said there was two little girls playing a little way away
from the incident, and he was worried for them too, so, what might have happened if
he hadn't come by, just imagine.
I have raised dogs for many years, and I know how important the first year is, in the lif e
of a dog. Many people just don't have a clue, and that often turns out to be the
downfall of the dog, and some stranger/child who might be in the wrong place at the wrong
time.
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May 7th, 2008, 01:04 PM
Often people need as much training as dogs do. Some even more.
Never run from a dog. Instinct is a very powerful drive and for most dogs, it's a trigger to chase and catch.
Dogs play with their mouths. I'm sure that if they did have hands with opposable thumbs they would play with their hands. But they don't. Consider this, when you were young, you would rough and tumble, play fight and what not with your buddies. You of course used your hands to do so and eventually learned a few tricks and how things work that way. Dogs are no different really. When people play fight with them, when they are young, play tug of war and what not, they are teaching the dog to play. Problem is, once a dog grows to it's potential it's far too rough to play even a little bit with someone who isn't prepared mentally and physically to under go the rigors of all out play.
Kicking screaming and hitting are play for most dogs. So when some kid thinking they are being attacked, kicks screams and hits the dog, to the dogs perspective, it's just ramping up the game a bit. Like a kid who hits too hard.
Dogs need people in order to live with people. They are supposed to be a fun, lovable companion to the owner and an admired member of the community. That's the ideal. These things are taught to the dog, just as they are taught to a child. Only sometimes they are not.
A dog should never have the chance to decide if it should chase down some running screaming kid. It doesn't matter the dogs size or abilities. What matters is the owner and the knowledge they have and their ability to control the dog. I've seen a very few dogs that can honestly be off a leash in public.
Breeding dogs should be strictly regulated and only knowledgeable and responsible people allowed to breed and sell a dog. Owners should be regulated as well to prove their abilities before an inspector that they are capable and responsible in owning and caring for a dog.
This means insurance too.
I suspect that this would bring an end to the dogs given up to humane societies and rescue groups. The same should be done for cats as far as I'm concerned.
Often people need as much training as dogs do. Some even more.
Never run from a dog. Instinct is a very powerful drive and for most dogs, it's a trigger to chase and catch.
Dogs play with their mouths. I'm sure that if they did have hands with opposable thumbs they would play with their hands. But they don't. Consider this, when you were young, you would rough and tumble, play fight and what not with your buddies. You of course used your hands to do so and eventually learned a few tricks and how things work that way. Dogs are no different really. When people play fight with them, when they are young, play tug of war and what not, they are teaching the dog to play. Problem is, once a dog grows to it's potential it's far too rough to play even a little bit with someone who isn't prepared mentally and physically to under go the rigors of all out play.
Kicking screaming and hitting are play for most dogs. So when some kid thinking they are being attacked, kicks screams and hits the dog, to the dogs perspective, it's just ramping up the game a bit. Like a kid who hits too hard.
Dogs need people in order to live with people. They are supposed to be a fun, lovable companion to the owner and an admired member of the community. That's the ideal. These things are taught to the dog, just as they are taught to a child. Only sometimes they are not.
A dog should never have the chance to decide if it should chase down some running screaming kid. It doesn't matter the dogs size or abilities. What matters is the owner and the knowledge they have and their ability to control the dog. I've seen a very few dogs that can honestly be off a leash in public.
Breeding dogs should be strictly regulated and only knowledgeable and responsible people allowed to breed and sell a dog. Owners should be regulated as well to prove their abilities before an inspector that they are capable and responsible in owning and caring for a dog.
This means insurance too.
I suspect that this would bring an end to the dogs given up to humane societies and rescue groups. The same should be done for cats as far as I'm concerned.
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May 7th, 2008, 01:43 PM
None of my dogs would have ever gotten far enough to pounce on your chest and growl with teeth showing like that, because the next step from that is taking your face into their mouths and shaking.
When the dog is like that all the time, it is of course a dominance thing it enjoys playing with you each time he/she sees you, but the owner of the dog should have addressed this attitude of the dog long ago and not by "Knock it off Klink" This shows that the dog has more slack and leinancy when around his owner or that the owner gives a level of tollerance for this type of behavior in which gives the dog a level of unpredictability.
I don't care who's friggin dog it is, whether they are right there beside their dog or not, but if a dog is going to do that to me continually, their owner's going to soon realize that they better keep the damn dog in check or I'll keep him in check for him... and I won't be using blunt objects to do it either.
An animal can learn to fear a human with a weapon, it's an entirely different situation when they fear a human as a human.
Quoting EagleSmack
The owner's actions alone in the above situation diserves a slab of concrete against his skull.
... The final straw was one night upon hearing me knock on the door invited me in from the couch as he read the paper. The dog a little late on hearing the knock saw me and lunged on my chest. It was face to face with me barking and the Dad calmly said w/o looking up from the paper...
"Knock it off Klink."
The dog stayed on my chest, bareing it's teeth and growling.
"Knock it off Klink"
Still growling. I thought it was going to bite my face. Finally the Dad looks up from the paper...
"Get down off him Klink...c'mere boy...sit..." the dog FINALLY got off my chest and sat down as he pet it's head "Richie! (my buddy's name) Steve is here."........
"Knock it off Klink."
The dog stayed on my chest, bareing it's teeth and growling.
"Knock it off Klink"
Still growling. I thought it was going to bite my face. Finally the Dad looks up from the paper...
"Get down off him Klink...c'mere boy...sit..." the dog FINALLY got off my chest and sat down as he pet it's head "Richie! (my buddy's name) Steve is here."........
None of my dogs would have ever gotten far enough to pounce on your chest and growl with teeth showing like that, because the next step from that is taking your face into their mouths and shaking.
When the dog is like that all the time, it is of course a dominance thing it enjoys playing with you each time he/she sees you, but the owner of the dog should have addressed this attitude of the dog long ago and not by "Knock it off Klink" This shows that the dog has more slack and leinancy when around his owner or that the owner gives a level of tollerance for this type of behavior in which gives the dog a level of unpredictability.
I don't care who's friggin dog it is, whether they are right there beside their dog or not, but if a dog is going to do that to me continually, their owner's going to soon realize that they better keep the damn dog in check or I'll keep him in check for him... and I won't be using blunt objects to do it either.
An animal can learn to fear a human with a weapon, it's an entirely different situation when they fear a human as a human.
