Why Benazir Butto was assassinated

givpeaceachance

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Not sure if you all have mulled over this one. If you haven't seen this yet then here's your chance to become a little more enlightened.


Nov 2, 2007 - BBC's David Frost interviews Benazir Bhutto.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg&feature=related

The BBC edited the video and removed the part where she says that Osama Bin Laden was murdered.


(mind the commentary from the dude in this video)

Dec 27, 2007 - By the end of the next month Benazir Bhutto was assassinated. However, the media is unwilling to tell us that. Instead they want us to believe that she bumped her head and that is why she is dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/28/pakistan.friday/index.html

There's enough evidence on youtube alone to prove that a conclusion like that was made by incompetent idiots that obviously are following an agenda. CNN should be canceled as a news outlet and should be tried in court as accomplices. You can hear the gun shots before the bomb went off and there is video of a man with a gun right beside her vehicle shooting at her.

So the next time the U.S or the British or anybody says that they have another video of Osama saying this or that just remember the words of this poor woman that no longer exists because of what she knew and wasn't afraid to tell. Notice how she says this like it's a matter of fact. Kinda of like something that is common knowledge.

I'm sorry people but the man is dead. Her death only emphasizes that fact.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Dec 27, 2007 - By the end of the next month Benazir Bhutto was assassinated. However, the media is unwilling to tell us that. Instead they want us to believe that she bumped her head and that is why she is dead.
Bit of a stretch there I think. There's no doubt she was assassinated, I've never seen any news report claim otherwise, what's at issue is whether it was a bomb blast or a bullet that killed her. And what difference does it really make? She was attacked with explosives and guns and died as a result of it.

Try watching a better quality news outlet than CNN.
 

givpeaceachance

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You guys are frustrating! Do you actually read or just skim through things for information?

If all you have to say after that is that i shouldn't watch CNN then it just proves that obviously you don't read or your comprehension skills need more work.

What a disappointment!
 

Dexter Sinister

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Nobody said you shouldn't watch CNN, we just said you should look at other sources too. I'm completely mystified by McCaulley's claim that CNN is liberal, it's always seemed pretty far right to me, but the real point is that anybody who wants to understand what's happening in the world has to look at multiple sources. You need CBC (tv and radio), CTV, Global, Fox, CNN, BBC if you can get it, ABC, NBC, CBS, Maclean's and Time magazines, your local newspaper, the Toronto Globe & Mail and the National Post, and some selection from the thousands of Internet sources available, plus some common sense (which seems to be lamentably uncommon) of your own to make any sense of it. And you have to read books too, for the deeper background and the bigger picture. It's work, if you really want to have any confidence that you've got it at least half right. Everybody has an agenda and a bias.
 

givpeaceachance

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Nobody said you shouldn't watch CNN, we just said you should look at other sources too. I'm completely mystified by McCaulley's claim that CNN is liberal, it's always seemed pretty far right to me, but the real point is that anybody who wants to understand what's happening in the world has to look at multiple sources. You need CBC (tv and radio), CTV, Global, Fox, CNN, BBC if you can get it, ABC, NBC, CBS, Maclean's and Time magazines, your local newspaper, the Toronto Globe & Mail and the National Post, and some selection from the thousands of Internet sources available, plus some common sense (which seems to be lamentably uncommon) of your own to make any sense of it. And you have to read books too, for the deeper background and the bigger picture. It's work, if you really want to have any confidence that you've got it at least half right. Everybody has an agenda and a bias.

I completely agree with you. I added that source to substantiate what i was saying. It's up to YOU to do the rest of the research because i have. I'm not going to sit here and give you 20 references to that one point.

However speaking about the point, how come you have made no reference to the point of my post.

No offense but i really don't like nit picking at petty details when there is a much bigger issue to be discussed.
 

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...how come you have made no reference to the point of my post.
I thought I had. I guess it's not really clear what the point of your OP is. Are the media pretending that Bhutto wasn't assassinated? Not according to what I've seen. Are the media pretending that bin Laden is still alive? There have been tapes released since Bhutto's assassination that pretty clearly suggest bin Laden is still around and condemning everybody who disagrees with him, as he always has, and they reference events that have happened since Bhutto's assassination. So I have to ask: in 50 words or less, what IS your point?
 

givpeaceachance

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I thought I had. I guess it's not really clear what the point of your OP is. Are the media pretending that Bhutto wasn't assassinated? Not according to what I've seen. Are the media pretending that bin Laden is still alive? There have been tapes released since Bhutto's assassination that pretty clearly suggest bin Laden is still around and condemning everybody who disagrees with him, as he always has, and they reference events that have happened since Bhutto's assassination. So I have to ask: in 50 words or less, what IS your point?

My point is Osama Bin Laden is dead. If you can't see what that would imply in this mess of a war we're all involved in then i would suggest you contemplate it. Then i would suggest you look back into history and see if you can find any other correlations into other corrupt and criminal activities and holocausts that have happened in the past century!

Do you see my point now Dexter? Or not yet?
 

givpeaceachance

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Okay. I certainly agree that it won't die with Bin Laden. But you seem completely unphased about the fact that they are using a DEAD man to further the agenda. If you don't see something wrong with that then . . .

And if you're trying to tell me that because the tapes exist that this is enough evidence for you to believe that Bin Laden is alive then . . . .

Unless of course, if you've got something more substantial than that as proof, i would love to hear it.
 

givpeaceachance

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Terrorists organize themselves into relatively isolated cells that don't depend on any particular leader, it won't die with bin Laden.

This is what i understand about this - they do depend on a leader.

Philosophically, they use Mohammed - the prophet to their religion - as the justification of their actions. In the latest they're saying that Osama has 'said' that " In a new audio message purportedly from Osama Bin Laden, the al-Qaeda leader threatens the EU over the re-printing of a cartoon offensive to Muslims. " This is a thread in International Politics.

This statement sounds like a direction. If they believe that Bin Laden is alive then statements such as this gives them an idea of where they should be setting their sights and why. Motive to action. It fuels their fire. Bin Laden apparently is the revolutionary to the cause. He is the godfather, if you will, to the whole Taliban organization. As long as he's alive then so is their cause. If he's dead then there goes their cause.

With that being said, i don't think that them finding out or knowing that Bin Laden was dead would miraculously end everything but it would weaken the driving force that is sucking in all the newbie talibans because the question would be what for? Keep in mind, people are still getting involved because they really believe that they are actually doing something to help themselves and their country.

Without a commander what are the soldiers to do? I know that these little operations do have some kind of enforcer telling the little guys what to do. But i'm sure that many of these little guys think that the enforcers are getting orders down the chain of command from - you guessed it - Bin Laden. Don't forget that it was the U.S military that taught them how to do what they are doing. So they operate in a completely haphazard but similar way.

So, if Bin Laden is truly dead, we need and it would be in our best interest to wonder who is making this stuff up and for what reason?