Re: Danish newspapers reprint controversial Prophet Muhammad cartoonJun 3rd, 2008
The magazine could also be ordered to stop publishing certain ideas and points of view.
So now we are making excuses for Muslim morons who somehow see it as their duty to kill people for insulting Muhamad, who married a nine year girl when he was fifty two.
So the people doing the killing have no responsiblity?
As for the first, no it was not many that chose to shoot at doctors.....or there would be a hell of a lot of dead doctors. The point is a relatively large portion of Muslims are willing to take action over perceived insults to the Prophet.........the Christian religion has largely grown out of that......
What the Hell are you talking about? I want the rules to apply to everybody....you have the right to express a belief or idea, you do not have the right to riot, destroy, threaten, or murder in an attempt to prevent the free expression of a belief or idea.....is that so hard to understand?
I don't give a damn about anyone's reaction to my expression......why should I? They should be in control of themselves......the onus is on them not to go insane over the expression of an idea.
Their insanity is not my concern......
WRONG. You are the enabler by your defense of those that would muzzle us.....you enable them tp undermine our relatively free society.......
Now this pisses me off. You get a phuckin clue.....these people are IN THE WEST that I'm talking about.....WE are a different society from THEM.......they should be respecting the culture they live in.........
Misdirection won't help when you have no argument.....and YOU should read a little history of your own culture....you might learn how hard-won your liberty is, and how diligently it needs to be defended.
If you read a little history, you would know that the example of legitimate free speech being anything short of "falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic" is from an opinion of US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendall Holmes, one of the greatest legal minds of history.
Argue with him, as you obviously don't understand the basic concepts of liberty.
No, they published it again because they wanted to emphasize the point that:
I'm not making excuses for anyone, there are consequences to freedom of expression and, unfortunately, not everyone in the world plays by the same rules western society does.
8 people died and 32 were injured this week due to ripples from when this cartoon was first published. Republishing these cartoons will likely open the danish up to more violent reprisals.
This isn't an excuse, this is the reality of the world we live in. If the danish feel this cartoon is worth dying for then that is their decision to make.
And what's wrong with Saudi Arabia....as long as you keep that family rolling in money their religion is just fine....right?
Now you go and arm the Isralis and funnel resources into a war that's been raging for sixty years...invade a few Moslem countries and destroy a few thousand Islamic people and they get all bent out of shape over a cartoon.....go figure!
Everyone wear a Swastika and march around town and see how long it will take for the Jews to claim racial oppression and victimization.....
So the people doing the killing have no responsiblity? Must be nice. It's all up to the Danes.
So the reaction that Jewish folk would have to Swastikas isn't about freedom of expression?
How many times must i read this pathetic statement when Americans (Canadians) refer to there prophet Mohamed, if you had any idea of Muslim culture, then you would realise that he did not take this 9 year old to bed with him ,this is something you have hit on to denounce Mohamed in your own eyes ,animatedly there are Muslims who do interfere with children and some much younger than this, but you know nothing of Muslims only the things which you choose to hear ,and your ignorance of there beliefs is staggering
The point Prax was that a "symbol" in the case of the Nazi regime, the swastika wasn't adopted as a symbol that suggested or promoted the argument for the extermination of Jews, and the "symbol" of Mohammed ( a symbol by the way that's never been "created" by faithful Moslems) as the symbol of religious beliefs among Moslems can stimulate radical passion....Quote has been trimmed, See full post:
We associate the swastika with the "Holocaust", not as the symbol of a fascist regime that set about holding the world hostage to its ideologies...but our focus has been intentionally limited to equating....swastika.....Holocaust.....= Anti-Jew.....
When we manipulate symbols we manipulate the abstraction. We infer from the manipulation and the abstraction those things that impact us emotionally....
Why should the Moslem's genre of radicalism (as radicalism exists in all religions) NOT bring as much focus to bear on that particular symbol?
Because a Christian doesn't have a problem with pictures of the Iquisition being made into wallpaper or the sight of Benedictine and Franciscan monks presiding over mass executions of natives all over the world.....doesn't mean a damn thing. The Roman Catholic Church has demonstrated its disdain for "freedom of expression" from deciding what "gender-association" is acceptable to the "church" to maintaining the oppression of women in the clergy for generations....
Seriously, what is wrong with the Islamic folks?
A Jordanian organisation wants to prosecute the Danes responsible for the printing of the Mohammed cartoonsEleven Danes have been summoned to appear before the Jordanian pubic prosecutor to answer charges of blasphemy and threatening the national peace. They include the cartoonist who drew one of the Mohammed cartoons and editors from 10 of the 17 newspapers that reprinted them.
So in other words you acknowlege both side's point of view, yet don't seem to understand how this current conflict between the two societies will just keep repeating and looping over and over again until most of the human on the planet are dead by either terrorist attacks or military action? (Take your pick)
It's irrelevent who started what and when, it's about what is currently going on and how it can be stopped and prevented from happeneing again..... and publishing hate literature isn't going to solve anything.
I think you entirely missed my point.
Everyone is quick to defend rioting, pillaging and killing on account of cultural sensitivity, but drawing a cartoon to defend your values....that's going too far.
What's going on right here at home with the HRC in BC and MacLeans is the perfect example of what the cartoonist were speaking out against with their cartoon. Turns out they were right.