All that is needed is accountability and no double standard .... proper recruitment and training would be nice to.....not lowering the standards as the rcmp has announced ............They just dont seem to grasp how mad the people of canada are.... I guess that is just their arrogant s ...........................
I disagree, for our law enforcement officers to have any credibility, when they screw up they have to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Otherwise the whole charade just becomes an exercise in "nudge nudge wink wink".
By accepting the position on the Government Payroll, they're also accepting
the position of having the Public's trust. Violating the Public's trust by committing
a crime should be punished just as anyone else (not double anyone else) as
we do have one Criminal Code for all Canadians. I'm talking in general terms
here and not specificly about the Dziekanski death in trying to take a step back
to see the forest for the trees.
A big part of the problem in this instance is a perceived (real or not) double standard
of one set of laws the Public have to follow, and a different set that the Public that
carry a Badge get to follow....creating the ugly "us against them" mentality on both
sides of the issue. Double the penalty of the non-Badge carry'n Public will not help
eliminate the "us against them" mentality...and a walk on Manslaughter will not
help eliminate the "us against them" mentality.
The RCMP (and other Canadian Law Enforcement Agencies) need to demonstrate
the "You do the Crime, You do the Time" phrase applies to every Citizen in this
country whether they carry a Badge or not....fairly....with the existing laws in the
Criminal Code of Canada to help regain full public trust once again. That's part of
the answer, but only a part of the answer.
Another part of the answer is the "Police policing the Police" but that is fodder
for another Thread as it's a bit off topic from this Thread.
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It's not often I agree with the B.C. Green Party. In fact, I'm tired of its whole job-destroying granola mindset. However, I do applaud the party's bold, timely call for the RCMP to be replaced in this province by a police force that's more accountable to the people.
Have I been smoking something? No. I just think we should return to having a provincial force in B.C., as we did from 1859 until 1950, and that the scandal-ridden RCMP should stick to being a national police agency, rather like the FBI.
As for the contract policing services the Mounties now provide to various Lower Mainland municipalities, they'd be better done by a single metro police service. The same's true in Metro Victoria.
And I'm far from alone in my view. In fact, retired B.C. provincial court judge Wally Craig has just e-mailed me a new report by Simon Fraser University criminology Prof. Robert Gordon and ex-Vancouver police chief Bob Stewart strongly making the case for a Metro Vancouver police service. The hard-hitting "discussion paper" points out our region is the last large metro area in Canada not to be policed by a single force.
"The police-related problems of the Metro Vancouver area are largely regional problems, not purely local, municipal problems and are best dealt with by a police service that works across the whole area in a co-ordinated way," it says.
Now, given intense public disquiet over the drug-gang war and the RCMP's dishonourable role in Robert Dziekanski's death, I believe there's firm public support for a single regional force with clear lines of accountability. So-called integrated units of officers from a hodge-podge of RCMP detachments and municipal forces simply don't cut it.
Sure, Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts, Burnaby Mayor Derek Corrigan and other mayors outside the City of Vancouver favour the status quo. So do some residents, especially in cozy communities like Port Moody, Delta and West Vancouver.
Many ratepayers, though, want change. And it's an issue that's resonating in this election campaign, especially since high-profile former West Van police chief Kash Heed is running for the Liberals.
Heed hit the headlines in 2007 when he urged public debate on police amalgamation, only to draw a reprimand from Jon Les, then B.C.'s solicitor-general. But Les first backed down, then stepped down. And Heed now is being touted as a future solicitor-general, in position to make long-overdue changes before the RCMP contract with B.C. expires in 2012.
Heed tells me his Vancouver-Fraserview constituents are very concerned about crime, and regional policing is part of the discussion: "I very well think that we need to seriously look at whether or not that's going to deliver a better police service for us."
For this, Heed would appear to have wide support, including from NDP crime critic Mike Farnworth and Liberal Attorney-General Wally Oppal, who said years ago the police patchwork made no sense. It still doesn't.
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The talk of a new police force in BC is all great an dandy until people will have to fork out the money for that force..
It was but a few years ago that Surrey was looking at kicking the RCMP out of Surrey and now they are looking at putting the centre for all RCMP operations in Surrey. Why, because the cost of operations was too great for the city to handle and when it really came down to it, tax payers made it clear they were NOT going to pay extra for policing we already have.
Just look how much China who apparantly lives in China, dictates the threads here on this forum and how everyone jumps to join him. He aids all of you into focusing on 4 members of the police rather than the Force as a whole. He leads you around by the nose helping you to form an opinion that re-enforces his own, rather than anyone looking, again, at the Force as a whole, and no one ever focuses on any of the good that is done. Why does he care if BC gets rid of the RCMP? Years ago it was city police that were all the bad guys. Then they raised the pay level and since they don't transfer people around (something that can be and usually is very disruptive to families)many of the RCMP left and were hired on by the city forces. That is all that would happen now anyway even if the man from China was successful in his quest to destroy the Force which will never happen. Cities cannot afford to start the training process for the numbers they would need for one thing and for another, something would have to give because they would then be responsible for 100% of the costs of paying for their policing and they are not right now.Quote has been trimmed
Pay cuts would have to happen. City police forces usually have unions. City taxes would go up. Who would police the rural areas? Do you think the RCMP are going to send in 2 - 3 members for the little towns without regular members nearby? Gee, we could have it like the USA where some big Bubba comes to look after things wearing his big tin badge on the...