Quote: Originally Posted by Islandpacific
I spent over 30 years in daily attendence with RCMP members. All - absolutely all you have to say here is simply police hatred and complete trash!
Hey I gave you the benefit of the doubt (ok with some big reservations). You could at least show me the same courtesy.
Reporters entrenched with soldiers often become biased in favour of the soldiers because they see only the individuals, who are just doing their job and not the larger operation itself, which may very well be ethically questionable. Why do you assume that you are above bias? I certainly am not, but I also don't make accusations out of the blue--at least give me the benefit of the doubt that my dislike of the RCMP does not arise from some personal bad experience with them but rather is based on some
knowledge of that particular organization and others like it.
Quote: Originally Posted by JLM
I don't think you are going to win this one I.P., people who have such an intense hatred for any group in an indescriminate manner, usually deep down don't have much love or respect for themselves. Undoubtedly there are cops as BArney describes, like it seems there was at least one bad apple who attended the airport, but to tar all four with the same brush is utterly ridiculous, without knowing more than what we do. I will admit when police investigate themselves there is going to be fair amount of coverup, but that isn't not the cops so much as human nature.
Ok my first statement was pretty vicious but I was already in a pretty bad mood when I wrote it. That still doesn't mean that it is some emotinal babble not worthy of consideration.
The death of that man was humiliating for me as a Canadian and deeply saddening when one empathizes with the mother's situation.
Had I been on the scene at the time it's very possible that I would have intervened once I saw what was about to happen (short of being tasered myself of course). If I'd been a cop on the scene I would have theatened lethal force on those guys after the first taser shot. This was not some minor mistake, these guys were bad-asses and they let this Pole have it to the point of killing him. It's as simple as that.
The RCMP is no friend to the immigrant so the mentality that spurred their aggressive behaviour definitely follows the norm.
IMO you're being way too soft on them and you're unwillingness to even consider that the RCMP is not the saintly organization it appears to be is disconcerting, given your ability to be critical on other issues.
And by the way, I was
being discriminate: I saw my error and apologized for my generalization. I freely admit that there are many...er...at least a good number of people (I won't kid myself) in the RCMP who are decent.
As for the four _____ at the airport (see I'm even willing to censor myself for the sake of your delicate eyes): I saw the video and recognized that sort of behaviour (yes in all four of them) as being similar to other malicious behaviour on the part of law enforcement personnel with intent to do harm. Sure one may have been more murderous than another but considering how this justice system (with the eager help of the RCMP) frequently and indiscriminately destroys people's lives without taking into account their individual situations, I could really give a ____ about individual differences between cops in this case. I've seen decent people who just happen to be cops
do their jobs in similar situations and it's nothing like what I saw in the video.