Quote: Originally Posted by Lithp
I agree with everything you say here. But the point is that police officers are regular people. They are not any tougher or stronger than anyone in the general public. Sure they have training but smaller officers, female officers or officers facing a guy high on PCP have no choice but to do what it takes to stop this person. Sometimes this requires weapons.
If you were a 5'2" person and you were confronted by a 6'3" male who was high as a kite in an alley way you'd be looking around for something to use against this guy. Cause you would know that this will probably not go well. The same holds true for police doesn't it?
In this scenario if this officer confronted the man alone and unarmed and got hurt in the process they would be chastised by their fellow officers and superiors. Not to mention their family
Well I'm 6'6 and high as a kite more often then not, but I ain't gonna go and rip the skin off your head and eat your brains.
Usually when faced with a situation like that, those type of people can be kept at bay and calm just through keeping distance and talking. If you don't believe you can take the person into custody easily, then call and wait for backup and keep the situation under control until they arrive to assist. Even at my drunkest or stoned state of mind, if I see two or more police officers..... heck even one, I ain't gonna try my luck, even if I am bigger then they are. One cop can turn into 10 in a few seconds of a call.
Not that I ever had to be put into that position against police officers... I get along quite well with them.... but if someone is fried out of their minds and screwed up on some heavy stuff, the last thing you want to do is to start cornering them, giving them orders and intemidating them with physical force. You might as well start jabbing a grizzly with a stick.
I'm no police officer, but I have come accross some pretty edgy people all fried on cocaine, speed and a few other drugs, like E, shrooms, acid, alcohol, etc...... many were right on the edge waiting for an excuse to start swinging and going ballistic..... yet all I did was keep my own cool, keep my voice level and continually agreed on their positions and what was bothering them...... it may not work in all cases, but I have gotten out of plenty of situations in the past where the person was about to unload on everybody around them. I talked with them, they gradually calmed down and eventually became reasonable.
And I have seen many situations where police officers took their time, gave them their distance and gave them time to think about the situation they are currently in, and the person eventually went peacefully.... Most situations, much like the incident in the vancouver airport with Robert, where the person is tasered and/or killed by police, those officers usually show that they simply don't have the time or patience to handle the situation properly and a taser is a quick fix for most.
I posted another situation that occured in a hospital a few months back where an elderly man was admitted, but because of his medical condition became confused and didn't know why he was there, pulled a pocket knife he had on him and kept everybody at bay and away from him because he didn't know what was going on.
Police arrived and rather then attempting to calm him down, explain the situation and resolve it peacefully, an officer was quoted along the lines of "Just deploy the taser, we have more important things to do today" and they tazzed him...... and if my memory is correct, he was in the hospital in relation to a heart condition.
He didn't attack anybody, he was scared and in a defensive position..... jabbing a grizzly with a stick situation again.
To me, tasers require a lot more rules and control on when and how they are deployed, because too many of these situations are occuring much more then they ever did in the past.