Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
Pangloss.... you are being ridiculous. You know very well that I understood your point and did not agree with it. To say that I've MISSED the point, simply because I don't agree, is your feeble attempt at saying I am unable to comprehend, thus beneath you. And yes, it is a flip attempt to shrug off a debate you have not been able to effectively support your position in, and walk away thinking yourself a bigger, smarter man than you really are.
When in fact, it is you who has so obviously misinterpretted much of what I've said in this thread. I said it before, and I'll say it again.... Your assertion that intolerance is something bred of religion, and not something bred of humanity, is flawed. D'Sousa may be an intolerant prick, but so are a million other people, of varying belief systems.
Neither belief set is above the human flaw of intolerance towards other beliefs.
Ok. . .here we go.
One: I don't know very well that you understood my point and you don't either. Unless you are a mind reader.
Two: you are again mistaken in saying that I say you don't get the point simply because you don't agree with me. To repeat: you are not a mind reader. You cannot know my reasons. As I cannot know yours.
Three: shrugging off a debate I have not been able to effectively support my position in. Um, no. Wrong again. I give cogent reasons for my positions and address all the salient points in your posts, and I do acknowledge when someone has a better argument than me.
Four: thinking I am a bigger, smarter man than I really am. Who in the whole wide world are you to say that? It is just as shallow as saying your dander is up because I offended your vanity - insulting and demeaning.
Five: and this is where you are horribly, tragically wrong, and the basis of my contention that you just don't get it. "[My] assertion that intolerance is something bred of religion and not something bred of humanity. . ." Where oh where do I say that? Don't say it is the tone - I can counter that too.
Your arguments are based on a false premise, a profound misreading of my posts. I never address what intolerance is born of, that is another topic - I am merely pointing to a shining example of the bigotry that can come from the breast of faith.
If you want to start a thread on the bigotry that can come from humanism, go right ahead.
In closing (cause I'm trying to give a full and serious answer here), your sophistry in your last post and your persistent misreading of my posts make answering you tedious.
I would rather discuss the topic of this thread than school you in dialectic.