just what are they doing up there

strange days, strange skies

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I quit reading after " Welcome to the brave new world of toxic barium skies, weather control, mind control and population control through the use of chemtrails modulated with electromagnetic frequencies generated by HAARP".

Mind control? I guess you guys have a legitimate reason for wearing the foil hats after all...
chemtrails??? they're vapour trails from aeroplanes. They've been around since the 40's
Incidentally, I believe they're known as contrails.
contrails are diff to chemtrails....do some research for phuksake
Chemtrails is a word which is exclusive to the fringe conspiracy nutters... there's mind contol in them Chemtrails!
Right...contrails are made from aircraft exhaust, and water condenses on the particles spit out by an aiplane. Chemtrails refer to a group of conspiracy theories, and I use the term theory loosely, which are contrails which form when unusually persistent chemicals at a certain time and a certain place are released from the aircraft.

I see from Wiki, the grand information hub that it is, that these chemtrails are also supposedly used for among other nefarious motives, to counter global warming and to facilitate cheap communication.
so, stretch, since you've done all the research, why don't you tell us how to tell the difference between a chemtrail and a contrail?
As long as they are not 'entrails'
contrail dispurses. A chemtrail spreads into cloud cover and
sometimes has fallout (cob-web like filaments, red/yellow powders,
milky-white fluid).

Purposes (??? weather modification, protection from ozone holes,
bio-vaccination, culling - ???)

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http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm (external - login to view)

Chemtrail Sunscreen Taught In US Schools
by William Thomas

A is for Apple.

B is for Boy.

C is for Chemtrails.

At least this is what one American father found while paging through his child's science book. SmT was astonished to find seventh graders being taught about chemtrails. And geoengineeering their home planet.

Anyone with question about the "spray programs" he now says, "should perhaps just ask their kids."

The chemtrails section is found in the Centre Point Learning Science I Essential Interactions science book. Under "Solutions for Global Warming", section 5.19 features a photo of a big multi-engine ...
www.chemtrailcentral.com/ (external - login to view)

Introductory Overview of Chemtrails (written May 1999) By Ken Adachi
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Contrails or chemtrails and freak weather
'Tenerife has recently again been hit by terrible weather, which has been explained as a symptom of climate change, but what everyone seems to have missed out on is that “chemtrails” were in the skies of the island just before the storms started, and chemtrails are being used for weather modification.'
For the last decade, people all over the world have been watching aircraft leaving behind long white trails in the skies, often in patterns that weave and crisscross or appear in parallel lines and grid formations. Unlike the jet contrails we used to observe, which lasted only minutes, these new formations can last for hours and spread out to form cloud. Researchers of the phenomena call them “chemtrails” but the authorities, if they make any comment at all, say they are harmless “contrails.”

Despite the fact that the Google search engine will turn up over 800,000 entries for chemtrails, and that both Google and YouTube have many chemtrail videos, the mainstream media is suspiciously silent about the matter, which adds more fuel to what is being said by many concerned people - that these formations pose a danger to the environment and our health.
The Discovery Channel, however, was willing to break this silence and has covered the matter in their Best Evidence series in an episode entitled “Chemical Contrails.” The Discovery Channel website poses this question: “Across the planet, millions of people have seen them - jet aircraft vapour trails lingering in the sky. Are these just regular “contrails” - the carbon and water vapour exhaust from commercial planes - or are they potentially toxic “chemical trails” emitted intentionally as part of secret geo-engineering experiments or weather-weaponization tests?”

According to award-winning Canadian journalist William Thomas, back in August 1997, the late Dr. Edward Teller presented a paper prepared by the US government’s National Academy of Sciences to the 22nd International Seminar on Planetary Emergencies in Sicily, in which he suggested that: “Increases in average world-wide temperature of the magnitude currently predicted can be cancelled by preventing about 1% of incoming solar radiation from reaching the Earth. The total cost of such an enhanced scattering operation would probably be at most $1 billion per year.”

Dr Teller proposed that aluminium oxide could be added to jet fuel as a “sunscreen,” and it appears that this is what is now being done, because aluminium is a metal that has been found in far higher than normal concentrations in areas that have had a lot of chemtrail activity overhead.
Aluminium is toxic to the human and mammalian body and has been linked with Alzheimer’s disease, but if this wasn’t bad enough, barium, which is also poisonous to us, is also found in the mixture that is reportedly being used in chemtrails. It has been found that very many people become sick in the wake of chemtrails being sprayed overhead and illnesses and symptoms reported include asthma, allergies, a long-lasting flu-like illness, respiratory problems, nosebleeds, fatigue, dizziness, tinnitus and hearing problems, skin rashes, high blood pressure, arthritis and pneumonia.

In her article A Doctor Speaks Out About Chemtrails, Victoria Hardy, writing in American Chronicle tells how Dr. Stephen D. McKay had been contacted by the BBC and Channel 4 in the UK to work on two television documentaries about weather modification and geo-engineering projects, including chemtrails.
Dr. McKay says there are four ongoing projects that explain why the chemtrails are in our skies: The first project is an attempt to block the sun’s rays, which as already explained, was an idea proposed by Edward Keller.

The second project to create these trails is the United States Navy’s Radio Frequency Mission Planner (RFMP) military program – this is a computer program that deals with radio waves and enables the RFMP system to visually monitor the battlefield terrain in 3D on a television screen.

The third chemtrail project uses barium salts in the atmosphere with the aim of controlling weather and utilises technology discovered by Nikola Tesla.
The fourth reason Dr Mckay gives for the chemtrails is the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), biological detection and decontamination program and this too employs barium salts in the atmosphere.
Rosalind Peterson set up the californiasky watch.com website, which explains its purpose as follows:

“This website is dedicated to those who want to breathe clean air, protect our drinking water supplies, our soils, trees, public health, and the natural environment in which we live. We believe that no one, no government agency or private corporation, has the right to pollute our air or drinking water supplies, modify our weather, or impact the living environment around us (even the upper atmosphere), without our consent.”
For more information on chemtrails, search the Internet and visitwww.californiaskywatch.com (external - login to view) Steve Andrews
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How does one tell a chemtrail from a contrail? Are we to believe every contrail is an attempt to poison us?
A contrail disappears shortly behind the plane where as a chemtrail stays and spreads out, often turning a clear sky into a milky haze...
Stretch - You sure one funny guy! How clever of you to ironically pose as a true believer in this nonsense in order to show all of us how silly and unreliable the internet can be!

Count me woken up!

Have any of you checked out the HAARP Program:

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Sparrow - are you from the same theatre troupe as stretch? You don't expect anybody to fall for that silly article do you? People will notice it has not one single citation of its sources! Pretty good, though - you almost pulled off the joke!

Angels dont play this Haarp


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Advances in Tesla Technology
Jeanne Manning and Dr. Nick Begich

The U.S. Government has a new ground-based "Star Wars" weapon which is being tested in the remote bush country of Alaska. This new system manipulates the environment in a way which can:
  • Disrupt human mental processes.
  • Jam all global communications systems.
  • Change weather patterns over large areas.
  • Interfere with wildlife migration patterns.
  • Negatively affect your health.
  • Unnaturally impact the Earth's upper atmosphere.
The U.S. military calls its zapper HAARP (High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program). But this skybuster is not about the Northern Lights. The device will turn on lights never intended to be artifically manipulated.

The following is a selection from the book and video.



1886-8: Nikola Tesla invents system of Alternating Current power source and transmission system. As 60-pulse-per-second (hertz) AC power grids spread over the land, Mom Earth will eventually dance to a different beat than her usual 7-8 hertz frequency.
1900: Tesla applies for patent on a device to transmit Electrical Energy Through the Natural Mediums".
1905: U.S. Patent #787,412 issued for above.
1924: Confirmation that radio waves bounce off ionosphere (electrically-charged layer starting at altitude of 50 kilometers).
1938: Scientist proposes to light up night sky by electron gyrotron heating from a powerful transmitter.
1940: Tesla announces "death ray" invention.
1945: Atomic bomb tests begin 40,000 electromagnetic pulses to follow.
1952: W.O. Schumann identifies 7.83 hertz resonant frequency of the earth.
1958: Van Allen radiation belts discovered (zones of charged particles trapped in earths magnetic field) 2,000+ miles up. Violently disrupted in the same year.
1958: Project Argus, U.S. Navy explodes 3 nuclear bombs in Van Allen belt.
1958: White House advisor on weather modification says Defense Dept. studying ways to manipulate charges "of earth and sky, and so affect the weather
1960: Series of weather disasters begin.
1961?: Copper needles dumped into ionosphere as "telecommunications shield".
1961: Scientists propose artificial ion cloud experiments. In 1960'sthe dumping of chemicals (barium powder etc.) from satellites/rockets began.
1961-62: Soviets and USA blast many EMPs in atmosphere, 300 megatons of nuclear devices deplete ozone layer by about 4%.
1962: Launch of Canadian satellites & start of stimulating plasma resonances by antennas within the space plasma.6
1966: Gordon J. F. MacDonald publishes military ideas on environmental engineering.
1960's: In Wisconsin, US Navy Project Sanguine lays ELF antennae.
1968: Moscow scientists tell the West that Soviets pinpointed which pulsed magnetic field frequencies help mental & physiological functions and which do harm.
1972: First reports on "ionospheric heater" experiments with high frequency radio waves, at Arecibo. 100-megawatt heater in Norway built later in decade; can change conductivity of auroral ionosphere.
1973: Documentation that launch of Skylab `'halved the total electron content of the ionosphere for three hours"(by rocket exhaust gases).
1973: Recommendations for study of Project Sanguine's biological effects denied by Navy.
|1974: United Nations General Assembly bans environmental warfare.
1974: High-frequency experiments at Plattesville, Colorado; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; and, Armidale, New South Wales heat "bottom side of ionosphere".
1974: Experiments airglow brightened by hitting oxygen atoms in ionosphere with accelerated electrons.
1975: Stanford professor Robert Helliwell reports that VLF from power lines is altering the ionosphere.
1975: U. S. Senator Gaylord Nelson forces Navy to release research showing that ELF transmissions can alter human blood chemistry.
1975: Pell Senate Subcommittee urges that weather & climate modification work be overseen by civilian agency answerable to U.S. Congress. Didn't happen.
1975: Soviets begin pulsing "Woodpecker" ELF waves, at key brainwave rhythms. Eugene, Oregon, one of locations where people were particularly affected.
1976: Drs. Susan Bawin & W. Ross Adey show nerve cells affected by ELF fields.'s
1979: Launch of NASA's third High-Energy Astrophysical Observatory causes large-scale, artificially-induced depletion in the ionosphere. Plasma hole caused by "rapid chemical processes" between rocket exhaust and ozone layer." "ionosphere was significantly depleted over a horizontal distance of 300 km for some hours."
1985: Bernard J. Eastiund applies for patent "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere,'' (First of 3 Eastiund patents assigned to ARCO Power Technologies Inc.)
1986: US Navy Project Henhouse duplicates Delgado (Madrid) experiment -- very low-level, very-low-frequency pulsed magnetic fields harm chick embryos. 20
1980's: In the later part of the decade the U.S. begins network of Ground Wave Emergency Network (GWEN) towers, each to generate Very Low Frequency (VLF) waves for defense purposes .
1987-92: Other APTI scientists build on Eastiund patents for development of new weapon capabilities.
I1994: Military contractor E-Systems buys APTI, holder of Eastiund patents and contract to build biggest ionospheric heater in world (HAARP).
1994: Congress freezes funding on HAARP until planners increase emphasis on earth-penetrating tomography uses, for nuclear counter proliferation efforts.
1995: Raytheon buys E-Systems and old APTI patents. The technology is now hidden among thousands of patents within one of the largest defense contractor portfolios.
1995: Congress budgets $10 million for 1996 under "nuclear counterproliferation" efforts for HAARP project.
1995: HAARP planners to test patent number 5,041,834 in September.
1994-6: Testing of first-stage HAARP (euphemistically named High frequency Active Auroral Research Program) equipment continues, although funding was frozen.
1996: HAARP planners to test the earth-penetrating tomography applications by modulating the electroject at Extremely Low Frequencies
1998: Projected date for fully-operating HAARP system.
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Tesla would be ashamed if he knew lunatics were using his name in this fashion.

Just going through that website (OP) I've found many things I disagree with.. such as those "misty sun halos" which I can assure you, are nothing more than ice crystals high up in the atmosphere reflecting sunlight... that "rainbow effect" is caused by the exact same thing as a regular rainbow - light split by water molecules acting as a prism.

"I ran outdoors with the camera when this rhapsody of sunrise color caught my eye. I was amazed by the appearance of this stratus cloud, not just because of the color, but because parts of it appeared to be vibrating. My intuition said it might be an example of a chemcloud being "cooked" by HAARP*, but my common sense rebelled, so I zeroed in on one of the bubbles, hoping to get a closer look." excerpt from article posted to BariumBlues.com

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Okay well.. if you look at the image posted with this article, it's nothing more than mammatus clouds under a beautiful sunset. Nice picture.

"The odd flourescent colors and colored vapor balls are caused by Ethylene Dibromide."

No, it's ice crystals. It always has been.

"The slight refraction or flourescence that can be observed in the cloudy area hanging just above the trees indicates that this is chemtrail fallout, a cloud of particulates mixed with Ethylene Dibromide."

Or you know... it could be some fog.

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"High energy overloading of the atmoshpere by HAARP can result in atmospheric "plasma rivers" punching or slicing bizarre patterns or geometric shapes (external - login to view) into clouds such as the two round holes in this cloud. "

It's called an updraft.... seriously people, take a course in meteorology.

Amber -

Do you get the feeling we are banging our heads against a wall? The Promethian effort of getting these nutbars to see reason strikes me as hardly worth it. . .

Dexter Sinister
Quote: Originally Posted by StretchView Post

A contrail disappears shortly behind the plane where as a chemtrail stays and spreads out, often turning a clear sky into a milky haze...

No, that's simply not true. The persistence of contrails depends on the humidity. In very dry air they dissipate quickly, in humid air they persist and spread. Any meteorologist could tell you that. Here's the truth (external - login to view) of it.
Back in the olden days when I was flying Sabres for the RCAF, I'm pretty sure we would first start making contrails at around thirty thousand feet. It always seemed that the contrails lasted longer at higher altitudes. We rarely poisoned anyone.....
Wow. . .flying Sabres. Juan, that just had to be cool.

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Wow. . .flying Sabres. Juan, that just had to be cool.


It was. The F-86 was a nice aircraft, but like any jet fighter of that time, it would kill you if you gave it half a chance.
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