Mighty Intellect
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May 1st, 2007, 05:19 PM
Good honest tactic.
Pangloss
Quoting Stretch
So. . . you post it, you defend it, and when you lose - you disown it.
well.... I read the article... If I think its worth passing on, I do, if it isnt, I dont
you've heard the song, "It Dont Matter To Me" by Bread ?
you've heard the song, "It Dont Matter To Me" by Bread ?
Good honest tactic.
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May 1st, 2007, 05:30 PM
pangloss i should let you know it wasn't particularly intended as a smackdown, just an honest statement. I felt it (and to some extent other posts) was irresponsible, in that that kind of information can be dangerous, since many people are not as clever as those who come here (most of us)
pangloss i should let you know it wasn't particularly intended as a smackdown, just an honest statement. I felt it (and to some extent other posts) was irresponsible, in that that kind of information can be dangerous, since many people are not as clever as those who come here (most of us)
Super Genius
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May 1st, 2007, 05:43 PM
did you look into what that article said?
or did you automaticly dismiss it as bull****?
• Insulin
Today, insulin is prescribed for both the Type I and Type II diabetics. Injectable insulin substitutes for the insulin that the body no longer produces. Of course, this treatment, while necessary for preserving the life of the Type I diabetic, is highly questionable when applied to the Type II diabetic.
It is important to note that neither insulin nor any of these oral hypoglycaemic agents exerts any curative action whatsoever on any type of diabetes. None of these medical strategies is designed to normalise the cellular uptake of glucose by the cells that need it to power their activity.
The prognosis with this orthodox treatment is increasing disability and early death from heart or kidney failure or the failure of some other vital organ.
Alternative Medical Treatment
The third step to a cure for this disease is to become informed and to apply an alternative methodology that is soundly based upon good science.
Effective alternative treatment that directly leads to a cure is available today for some Type I and for many Type II diabetics. About 5% of the diabetic population suffers from Type I diabetes; about 95% has Type II diabetes.22 Gestational diabetes is simply ordinary diabetes contracted by a woman who is pregnant.
For the Type I diabetic, an alternative methodology for the treatment of Type I diabetes is now available. It was developed in modern hospitals in Madras, India, and subjected to rigorous double-blind studies to prove its efficacy.23 It operates to restore normal pancreatic beta cell function so that the pancreas can again produce insulin as it should. This approach apparently was capable of curing Type I diabetes in over 60% of the patients on whom it was tested. The major complication lies in whether the antigens that originally led to the autoimmune destruction of these beta cells have disappeared from or remain in the body. If they remain, a cure is less likely; if they have disappeared, the cure is more likely. For reasons already discussed, this methodology is not likely to appear in the United States any time soon, and certainly not in the American orthodox medical community.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...Deception.html
did you look into what that article said?
or did you automaticly dismiss it as bull****?
• Insulin
Today, insulin is prescribed for both the Type I and Type II diabetics. Injectable insulin substitutes for the insulin that the body no longer produces. Of course, this treatment, while necessary for preserving the life of the Type I diabetic, is highly questionable when applied to the Type II diabetic.
It is important to note that neither insulin nor any of these oral hypoglycaemic agents exerts any curative action whatsoever on any type of diabetes. None of these medical strategies is designed to normalise the cellular uptake of glucose by the cells that need it to power their activity.
The prognosis with this orthodox treatment is increasing disability and early death from heart or kidney failure or the failure of some other vital organ.
Alternative Medical Treatment
The third step to a cure for this disease is to become informed and to apply an alternative methodology that is soundly based upon good science.
Effective alternative treatment that directly leads to a cure is available today for some Type I and for many Type II diabetics. About 5% of the diabetic population suffers from Type I diabetes; about 95% has Type II diabetes.22 Gestational diabetes is simply ordinary diabetes contracted by a woman who is pregnant.
For the Type I diabetic, an alternative methodology for the treatment of Type I diabetes is now available. It was developed in modern hospitals in Madras, India, and subjected to rigorous double-blind studies to prove its efficacy.23 It operates to restore normal pancreatic beta cell function so that the pancreas can again produce insulin as it should. This approach apparently was capable of curing Type I diabetes in over 60% of the patients on whom it was tested. The major complication lies in whether the antigens that originally led to the autoimmune destruction of these beta cells have disappeared from or remain in the body. If they remain, a cure is less likely; if they have disappeared, the cure is more likely. For reasons already discussed, this methodology is not likely to appear in the United States any time soon, and certainly not in the American orthodox medical community.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...Deception.html
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May 1st, 2007, 05:47 PM
this is why I don't read your posts, stretch, because they always contain crap like that.
post what you want now because i'm leaving this thread. If I read any more of your crap i'll have to throw the computer through a window.
Quote:
NOT true.
Effective alternative treatment that directly leads to a cure is available today for some Type I and for many Type II diabetics.
this is why I don't read your posts, stretch, because they always contain crap like that.
post what you want now because i'm leaving this thread. If I read any more of your crap i'll have to throw the computer through a window.
Super Genius
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May 1st, 2007, 05:51 PM
saying "not true" is not an arguement mate
Quoting hermanntrude
NOT true.
this is why I don't read your posts, stretch, because they always contain crap like that.
post what you want now because i'm leaving this thread. If I read any more of your crap i'll have to throw the computer through a window.
this is why I don't read your posts, stretch, because they always contain crap like that.
post what you want now because i'm leaving this thread. If I read any more of your crap i'll have to throw the computer through a window.
saying "not true" is not an arguement mate
Super Genius
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Location: Canada
May 1st, 2007, 06:02 PM
Vaccine Dangers and Vested Interests
A retired vaccine researcher goes public on what the pharmaceutical industry and the health authorities don't want us to know: that vaccines are unsafe, untested and one of the greatest frauds of our time.
Statistics and Propaganda
How many Americans really die of the flu each year? Ask the American Lung Association. Better yet, read their own report from August 2004, titled "Trends in Pneumonia and Influenza/Morbidity and Mortality". This report comes from the Research and Scientific Affairs Epidemiology and Statistics Unit. At the bottom of the document, the source is listed as the National Center for Health Statistics, "Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1979–2001".
Get ready for some surprises, especially since the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) keeps trumpeting flu-death annual numbers as 36,000. Like clockwork. Year in and year out, 36,000 people in the US die from the flu every year. Killer disease. Watch out! Get your flu shot. Every autumn. Don't wait. You might fall over dead in the street!
Here are the total influenza deaths from the report (from 1979 to 1995, the stats were released every two years):
1979: 604;
1981: 3,006;
1983: 1,431;
1985: 2,054;
1987: 632;
1989: 1,593;
1991: 1,137;
1993: 1,044;
1995: 606;
1996: 745;
1997: 720;
1998: 1,724;
1999: 1,665;
2000: 1765;
2001: 257.
Don't believe me? Here is the page: http://www.lungusa.org/atf/cf/%7B7A8D42C2-FCCA-4604-8ADE-7F5D5E762256%7D/PI1.PDF.
Get there and go to page nine of the document. Then start scrolling down until you come to the chart for flu deaths as a separate category.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...esearcher.html
Vaccine Dangers and Vested Interests
A retired vaccine researcher goes public on what the pharmaceutical industry and the health authorities don't want us to know: that vaccines are unsafe, untested and one of the greatest frauds of our time.
Statistics and Propaganda
How many Americans really die of the flu each year? Ask the American Lung Association. Better yet, read their own report from August 2004, titled "Trends in Pneumonia and Influenza/Morbidity and Mortality". This report comes from the Research and Scientific Affairs Epidemiology and Statistics Unit. At the bottom of the document, the source is listed as the National Center for Health Statistics, "Report of Final Mortality Statistics, 1979–2001".
Get ready for some surprises, especially since the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) keeps trumpeting flu-death annual numbers as 36,000. Like clockwork. Year in and year out, 36,000 people in the US die from the flu every year. Killer disease. Watch out! Get your flu shot. Every autumn. Don't wait. You might fall over dead in the street!
Here are the total influenza deaths from the report (from 1979 to 1995, the stats were released every two years):
1979: 604;
1981: 3,006;
1983: 1,431;
1985: 2,054;
1987: 632;
1989: 1,593;
1991: 1,137;
1993: 1,044;
1995: 606;
1996: 745;
1997: 720;
1998: 1,724;
1999: 1,665;
2000: 1765;
2001: 257.
Don't believe me? Here is the page: http://www.lungusa.org/atf/cf/%7B7A8D42C2-FCCA-4604-8ADE-7F5D5E762256%7D/PI1.PDF.
Get there and go to page nine of the document. Then start scrolling down until you come to the chart for flu deaths as a separate category.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/article...esearcher.html
May 1st, 2007, 06:07 PM
Quoting Stretch
Stretch, you don't run around touting cures for chronic disease unless you've SEEN IT WORK. Trust me. Plenty of researchers are shady. Plenty of research is fudged in order to drum up hype and get funding. These are facts that people with chronic diseases know. We know that everytime someone gets our hopes up with a cure, we're likely to end up feeling crushed as those hopes are dashed. For every chronic disease out there, there are at least 300 'cures' on the market. These doctors, researchers, and companies, prey on the hopes of people whose lives are impacted by disease and illness. But for all of those looking to sell a cure, thankfully, there are also those keeping the community abreast of honest progress. You can rest assured that Hermann follows the latest literature in honest research, and knows what is and isn't available for treatment options and cures. Yes, coming from him 'not true' is an argument.
saying "not true" is not an arguement
Super Genius
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May 1st, 2007, 06:18 PM
Quoting karrie
1st up, this planet is "run" according to the bottom line.... true?
Stretch, you don't run around touting cures for chronic disease unless you've SEEN IT WORK. Trust me. Plenty of researchers are shady. Plenty of research is fudged in order to drum up hype and get funding. These are facts that people with chronic diseases know. We know that everytime someone gets our hopes up with a cure, we're likely to end up feeling crushed as those hopes are dashed. For every chronic disease out there, there are at least 300 'cures' on the market. These doctors, researchers, and companies, prey on the hopes of people whose lives are impacted by disease and illness. But for all of those looking to sell a cure, thankfully, there are also those keeping the community abreast of honest progress. You can rest assured that Hermann follows the latest literature in honest research, and knows what is and isn't available for treatment options and cures. Yes, coming from him 'not true' is an argument.
May 1st, 2007, 06:26 PM
Quoting Stretch
I don't think you can accurately sum it up like that, no. But, if you've lived long with a chronic illness, with people around every corner wanting to sell you a cure, then it can start to feel that way alright.
1st up, this planet is "run" according to the bottom line.... true?
Super Genius
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Location: Canada
Location: Canada
May 1st, 2007, 06:31 PM
I so very much appreciate that....I'm not a snake oil salesman....... I'd never hurt........quite the opposite........I research it b4 I post it
Quoting karrie
I don't think you can accurately sum it up like that, no. But, if you've lived long with a chronic illness, with people around every corner wanting to sell you a cure, then it can start to feel that way alright.
I so very much appreciate that....I'm not a snake oil salesman....... I'd never hurt........quite the opposite........I research it b4 I post it
Super Genius
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Location: Canada
Location: Canada
May 1st, 2007, 07:00 PM
an while we're on the subject....bastards I have known......
the us of g ....... 4 dropping 2 wmd on 1 country......
for invading a country on a lie.....
for invading a 2nd country with no link to the 1st......all on the pretext of nine one one
an while we're on the subject....bastards I have known......
the us of g ....... 4 dropping 2 wmd on 1 country......
for invading a country on a lie.....
for invading a 2nd country with no link to the 1st......all on the pretext of nine one one
