How Iranians Treat Prisoners

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No body as far as I know was asked to clarify the fact that Donald Rumsfeld (a matter of public record...on video tape) said that "We know where these weapons (WMDs) are..."

No body was as far as I know made accountable to the prima facie lies that underwrote the invasion of Iraq....

Sadly you are correct.

You accept the lies that support your "position" but balk at the truth......?

Truth? That isn't truth, that's the bastardization of an inaccuracy, based on hyperbole and steeped in shyte.
Your acknowledgement that we fail to hold our governments responsible for their lies while pointing fingers at other peoples' governments lies demonstrates access to some degree of some sense of justice. How can the people of the world differentiate between the lies of the west (America and Canada) and the lies of Syria and Lebannon et al. when both are guilty? This is a fundamental weakness in your arguments supporting policies and actions undertaken by "our" governments ...all over the world!

It's a sad reflection on the nature or "character" of our "great-democracies" that we're comvfortable with ignoring lies of convenience when the lies favour our "position" but denounce the lies and propaganda of others when their "position" appears antithetical to our appetites!
Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDBView Post

Your acknowledgement that we fail to hold our governments responsible for their lies while pointing fingers at other peoples' governments lies demonstrates access to some degree of some sense of justice. How can the people of the world differentiate between the lies of the west (America and Canada) and the lies of Syria and Lebannon et al. when both are guilty? This is a fundamental weakness in your arguments supporting policies and actions undertaken by "our" governments ...all over the world!

Nonsense. I've never dismissed the accountabvility of, or lack thereof, of our illegalities. Of which there are countless numbers. The issues I see and react to here in cyber entertainment land are the ones that are pure BS, like the posts in this thread, in which commentary is taken out of context, manipulated and distorted to further an agenda. All this of course makes the creator and purveyor alike, culpable to the criminal act of disinformation. Which of course is just another example of the left's moral bankruptcy.


It's a sad reflection on the nature or "character" of our "great-democracies" that we're comvfortable with ignoring lies of convenience when the lies favour our "position" but denounce the lies and propaganda of others when their "position" appears antithetical to our appetites!

I don't ignore them. I make my feelings known when needed and voice my contempt. But poking the stupidity of the so called 'free thinkers' that are actually led more like sheep then they accuse the right of, is just down right entertaining as hell.
So you think only the "left" are morally bankrupt?

Perhaps it's immoral in your opinion to stand up for human rights?
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So you think only the "left" are morally bankrupt?

Not at all. The thought is actually laughable, in fact it made me chuckle as I read that query. The moral justified right bank that their God sanctifies their actions, while they perpetrate all manners of human depravity. Mean while the left, sits back and scorns the right for the wholesale slaughter of the unwashed masses, all the while cuddling up to some of the greatest purveyors of pain and suffering in history as well as turning a blind eye to human tragedy in the name of neutrality.

No one is innocent my friend.

Perhaps it's immoral in your opinion to stand up for human rights?

While trampling them? Ya sure, two wrong make a right...

The left record of human rights abuses is as pitiful as the rights. I suspect you fall for the mechanizations of the left solely for the increase in benefits. No insult intended Mikey, just an observation. As the right takes away your mobility via decreasing in funding, the left bleats the blues for you, without actually doing anything significant or substantial when they have the actual ability to do so, (smoke and mirrors). Mean while they would hamper any action that required force or coercion to remedy true human suffering abroad.

Sad ain't it?
Chart that shows how the Rothschilds control the Federal Reserve (external - login to view)
Now Canadian Mounties launch investigation into government's 'Human Rights' Commission

'The Royal Canadian Mounted Police have begun an investigation into alleged criminal conduct by members of the Canadian Human Rights Commission. The conduct in question was revealed at an extraordinary hearing on March 25th, a hearing the CHRC desperately tried to keep closed to the press. An officer of Bell Canada, appearing under a subpoena, testified that the CHRC had hacked into a private citizen's Internet account, to cover their electronic tracks as they surfed anti-Semitic websites under the alias "Jadewarr".' (external - login to view)
Famine killed 7 million people in USA (external - login to view)
Another online scandal has been gathering pace recently. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, deleted an article by a Russian researcher, who wrote about the USA's losses in the Great Depression of 1932-1933. Indignant bloggers began to actively distribute the article on the Russian part of a popular blog service known as Livejournal. The above-mentioned article triggered a heated debate.
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Category: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS (external - login to view)
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Extraordinary activities of Richard Warman and Canadian 'Human Rights' Commission exposed on national TV

A must-see to get the situation in a nutshell.

Click here to watch ...


The Canadian Human Rights Commission's Bigoted Comment of the Day

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Gov't MP: 'Fundamental review by Parliament is needed'

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Gov't MP: HRCs 'overstepped their original mandates' and 'must be curtailed'

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There is more than meets the eye about the world food crisis

'Trying to come to grips with the world food crisis, it’s hard not to subscribe to some version of a conspiracy theory -- that somehow, for some reason, this rush towards widespread world famine is actually a plan by a world clique intent on drastically reducing the world population, accelerating the collapse of national governments, allowing gigantic world corporations effectively to take their place, controlling vast areas of land, leading towards a world governed by these corporations.' (external - login to view)
Residential School Genocide: Why 'Apology' Isn't Enough

(This article was submitted to 10 Canadian newspapers. Not one published or even acknowledged receiving it.)

'Imagine for a moment that your own child goes missing and never comes home. Years pass, and one day, the person responsible for your child's death is identified, but he evades arrest and imprisonment simply by issuing to you an "apology" for your loss. He even speaks of seeking "reconciliation" with you.

How would you feel?

Hold on to that feeling, and now multiply your loss by many thousands of children, and make the guilty person the government and churches of Canada. Do so, and you will have arrived in a human way at the Indian Residential Schools atrocity.' (external - login to view) (external - login to view)
Seeing through Transparency International

by Calvin Tucker / May 23rd, 2008
The credibility of Transparency International (external - login to view), a global “non-partisan” organisation which “promotes transparency in elections, in public administration, in procurement and in business”, is on the line. Their latest report on Venezuela, which was produced after months of research, is factually inaccurate in almost every respect. TI say that they “stand by their report” and stand by the person who compiled the data, an anti-Chávez activist who backed the 2002 military coup against democracy.
The full report, dated April 28 2008 and titled Promoting Revenue Transparency (external - login to view) examined the published accounts of oil companies in 42 different countries, and ranked them according to whether they were of high, medium or low transparency. Venezuela’s state-owned oil firm PDVSA was given the lowest possible ranking. Transparency International say that “comprehensive corporate reporting diminishes the opportunities for corrupt officials to extort funds”.
PDVSA was directly accused of failing to disclose basic financial information such as their revenues and how much royalties they paid, and of not producing properly audited accounts. The international corporate media considers TI to be a reliable source, despite the fact that almost all their funding comes from western governments and big business. The British government is one of the major donors, contributing Ł1 million in 2007. Other donors include the US government, Shell and Exxon Mobil. Unsurprisingly, TI’s damning report was seized upon by rightwing newspapers (external - login to view) and websites and used as another stick with which to beat Venezuela’s socialist president, Hugo Chávez. (external - login to view)
'Gays are "sexual deviants" who are a "cancer"' - Richard Warman

'Here is one of Warman's bigoted posts, this one written by him on March 22, 2005, on the Stormfront "white nationalist" website, to which Warman had signed up as a member. Warman wrote the post using one of his many neo-Nazi alter egos. In this case, it was Pogue Mahone. I know that's hard for any sane person to believe, so I post again a transcript of Warman admitting under oath to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal that he was the online Nazi, Pogue Mahone.

As you can see, it's a typically nasty conversational thread; this one is discussing whether a particular neo-Nazi is white enought to be an Aryan. Warman doesn't think he's white enough. Here's what he says (NS stands for National Socialism, also known as Nazism):

Theres a reason it's called "White" Nationalism and why the founders of NS excluded sexual deviants that are a like a Cancer to our movement ...' (external - login to view)


Jewish youth group Hillel tears people down - Richard Warman (external - login to view)
"The world according to Monsanto" (external - login to view)
"The world according to Monsanto"...
Posted May 25, 2008 10:25 AM (external - login to view) PST
Category: SCIENCE/HEALTH (external - login to view)

Monsanto is siccing their lawyers on every web page that has shown this movie. YouTube has already yanked it under threat of lawsuit. This link may be one of the last places you can see this movie before it is banned. (external - login to view)
The Worst War Crime Yet? Bush's War on Children in Iraq (external - login to view)
Surely nothing that President Bush has done in his two wretched terms of office--not the invasion and destruction of Iraq, not the overturning of the five-centuries-old tradition of habeas corpus, not his authorization and encouragement of torture, not his campaign of domestic spying--nothing, can compare in its ugliness as his approval, as commander in chief, of the imprisoning of over 2500 children.
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FBI Evidence that Indicts George W. Bush for Mass Murder, War Crimes and Torture (external - login to view)
A 370-page report by the Justice Department Inspector General references an FBI investigation of US torture that accuses the Bush White House, the National Security Council, the Pentagon and the Justice Department with 'ordering and planning' torture, including 'procedures' that resulted in death to 'detainees'. In other words --murder! The report details how the US began torturing captives in 2002. 'Attempts to stop it ... were systematically suppressed', evidence of criminal activity by the Bush administration covered up. Bush's cover up of torture is itself a crime for which he should be impeached, tried and prosecuted.

Posted May 25, 2008 09:07 AM (external - login to view) PST
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Bush loves to portray himself as a "war president"; in truth, he is a "war crimes president. (external - login to view)
Bilderberg Luminary To Select Obama's Running Mate

'It has been announced that Bilderberg luminary and top corporate elitist James A. Johnson will select Democratic candidate Barack Obama's running mate for the 2008 election and in turn potentially act as kingmaker for America's future President. Johnson also selected John Kerry's running mate John Edwards in 2004 after Edwards had impressed Bilderberg elitists Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller with a speech he gave at the globalist confab in Italy that year.' (external - login to view)
Mounties investigation of Orwellian 'Human Rights' Commission makes front page news in Washington, DC

'Ian Fine might be blase about the RCMP's investigation of the Canadian Human Rights Commission (and the Privacy Commissioner's investigation, and Richard Warman's bigoted Internet posts, and just about every other scandal over at Fine's bunker), but the CHRC's troubles are big enough news to make the front page of the Washington Times newspaper today.' (external - login to view)

Liberal MP 'alarmed' by infringement of Charter (external - login to view)

Free Dominion files its defence against Richard Warman's lawsuit

'The Free Dominion defence is a fascinating read. It's obviously a document written for the court of law, but it's also a powerful weapon in the court of public opinion. It's quite readable -- not too leaden with legalese -- and it tells a hell of a story. As I predicted when Warman first sued us, we might well be the nominal defendants in this case, but it's Warman who's really going to be on trial.' (external - login to view)

Who are Canada's biggest hatemongers? (external - login to view)
Tip of a massive iceberg that David Icke has been exposing for two decades ...

Peacekeepers 'abusing children'

'Children as young as six are being sexually abused by peacekeepers and aid workers, says a leading UK charity. Children in post-conflict areas are being abused by the very people drafted into such zones to help look after them, says Save the Children. After research in Ivory Coast, southern Sudan and Haiti, the charity said an international watchdog should be created to deal with the issue.' (external - login to view)


'Masons' Pictured Having Sex with Teen Prostitutes?

'What began as a federal libel/slander lawsuit between two Brazilian fishing tour operators has led to the possibility that “Masons” on such a fishing trip participated in child sex tourism and minor prostitution. The term “Mason” is used here because that is how two Brazilian fishing guides, called as witnesses for the defense, referred to members of the Royal Order of Jesters identified in their recent depositions. This is the second of two articles explaining what court records have thus far revealed in this legal battle, described here.' (external - login to view)
The North American Union is no myth
A must-see.


The "amero"..........


more info re the amero.... (external - login to view)
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L.A. parishes help pay archdiocese's $720 million in abuse settlements (external - login to view)
L.A. parishes help pay archdiocese's $720 million in abuse settlements...
Posted May 27, 2008 11:06 AM (external - login to view) PST
RELIGION (external - login to view)

One would hope that people in any position of religious authority would be screened in such a way as to prevent any kind of abuse from happening. Unfortunately, being in a position of power over people's lives sometimes makes certain people in the clergy think they can do no wrong, even when what they have done is morally reprehensible.,0,72597.story (external - login to view)
Family seed business takes on Goliath of genetic modification
Since the dawn of civilization, farmers have saved seeds from the harvest and replanted them the following year.
But makers of genetically modified (GM) seeds -- introduced in 1996 and now grown by some 70,000 Canadian farmers, according to Monsanto, the world's largest seed company -- have been putting a stop to that practice. The 12 million farmers worldwide who will plant GM seeds this year sign contracts agreeing not to save or replant seeds. That means they must buy new seeds every year.

Posted May 27, 2008 09:04 AM (external - login to view) PST
SCIENCE/HEALTH (external - login to view)

Monsanto promises the GM seeds will produce a larger yield to offset the costs of buying the seeds, but studies have shown that yields era actually lower with GM seeds. (external - login to view) Monsanto is in breach of contract on that one point alone.
Who killed JFK Jr?

'They killed his father. They killed his uncle. How did he die? We know he died in a plane wreck, but this video shows the bizarre media manipulation surrounding the details of the story. Why would somebody kill JFK Jr? Who had the motive? Who had the means?' (external - login to view)
Climate change spreads to Jupiter and Mars
'While the former vice president is leading the charge for drastically changing the way humans do business in a bid to avert catastrophic, man-made global warming, scientists reported today there is noticeable climate change taking place on Jupiter, too. The news follows reports as far back as three years ago that ice caps on Mars are also retreating much as some of the ice in the Earth's Arctic circle.'
Damn their carbon footprint. (external - login to view)
Genetically Engineered Sugar to Hit U.S. in 2008

'American Crystal, a large Wyoming-based sugar company and several other leading U.S. sugar providers have announced they will be sourcing their sugar from genetically engineered (GE) sugar beets beginning this year and arriving in stores in 2008. Like GE corn and GE soy, products containing GE sugar will not be labeled as such.' (external - login to view)
HAARP, MKULTRA, Cointelpro And Mind Control
'A conversation with Leuren Moret, Expert Witness with the Tokyo Trubunal for War Crimes in Afghanistan and Expert Witness on depleted uranium (DU) for a member of the Canadian Parliament, on HAARP, MKULTRA, Cointelpro and Mind Control, including the application of these combined technologies on ... citizens.'
Very important supporting information of what David Icke has been revealing in his books by a very credible source. It is strongly recommended that this be heard right to the end.

Click here to listen ... (external - login to view)
no self respecting pakeha would want to go there anyway......

New rules make it tougher for travellers to US (external - login to view)
New security measures requiring New Zealanders to register online before they go to the United States are expected to cause problems for last-minute business travellers and people flying there for funerals.
Posted Jun 3, 2008 12:39 PM (external - login to view) PST
ECONOMY (external - login to view)

Let's just find one more way to kneecap our tourism industry! (external - login to view)
David Lange, former Prime Minister of NZ, successfully argued the proposition that 'nuclear weapons are morally indefensible'. (external - login to view)
ISRAELI SPYING: THE MOTHER OF ALL SCANDALS... (external - login to view)
So here is the mother of all scandals.
For two years, the FBI has suspected AIPAC of spying for a foreign country, and for those two years (and for decades before) that group suspected of spying for Israel has been reshaping the US Congress for the benefit of a foreign government.
And THAT is the mother of all scandals.
Think about that as billions of your tax dollars flow to Israel while your roads and schools crumble and decay and services are cut.
Think about that as the coffins come home with your loved ones inside. Think about that when you and a million of your fellow citizens march down the streets of America opposing wars built on lies and deceptions and wonder why the government just doesn't want to listen to you any more.

Posted Jun 5, 2008 09:53 AM (external - login to view) PST
ISRAELI SPYING (external - login to view)

The story spreads... (external - login to view)
Spooks (external - login to view)
Spooks, FBI agents and cops have descended on the Westfields Marriott hotel in Chantilly Virginia to scrutinize Jim Tucker and Alex Jones as the 2008 Bilderberg meeting gets underway today without even being mentioned in the American corporate media.
Posted Jun 5, 2008 09:08 AM (external - login to view) PST
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