'Tweens' are fast becoming the new teens

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By MARTHA IRVINE, AP National Writer

Zach Plante is close with his parents — he plays baseball with them and, on weekends, helps with work in the small vineyard they keep at their northern California home.
Lately, though, his parents have begun to notice subtle changes in their son. Among other things, he's announced that he wants to grow his hair longer — and sometimes greets his father with "Yo, Dad!"
"Little comments will come out of his mouth that have a bit of that teen swagger," says Tom Plante, Zach's dad.
Thing is, Zach isn't a teen. He's 10 years old — one part, a fun-loving fifth-grader who likes to watch the Animal Planet network and play with his dog and pet gecko, the other a soon-to-be middle schooler who wants an iPod.
In some ways, it's simply part of a kid's natural journey toward independence. But child development experts say that physical and behavioral changes that would have been typical of teenagers decades ago are now common among "tweens" — kids ages 8 to 12.
Some of them are going on "dates" and talking on their own cell phones. They listen to sexually charged pop music, play mature-rated video games and spend time gossiping on MySpace. And more girls are wearing makeup and clothing that some consider beyond their years.
Zach is starting to notice it in his friends, too, especially the way they treat their parents.
"A lot of kids can sometimes be annoyed by their parents," he says. "If I'm playing with them at one of their houses, then they kind of ignore their parents. If their parents do them a favor, they might just say, 'OK,' but not notice that much."
The shift that's turning tweens into the new teens is complex — and worrisome to parents and some professionals who deal with children. They wonder if kids are equipped to handle the thorny issues that come with the adolescent world.
"I'm sure this isn't the first time in history people have been talking about it. But I definitely feel like these kids are growing up faster — and I'm not sure it's always a good thing," says Dr. Liz Alderman, an adolescent medicine specialist at Montefiore Medical Center in New York City. She's been in practice for 16 years and has noticed a gradual but undeniable change in attitude in that time.
She and others who study and treat children say the reasons it's happening are both physical and social.
Several published studies have found, for instance, that some tweens' bodies are developing faster, with more girls starting menstruation in elementary school — a result doctors often attribute to improved nutrition and, in some cases, obesity. While boys are still being studied, the findings about girls have caused some endocrinologists to lower the limits of early breast development to first or second grade.
Along with that, even young children are having to deal with peer pressure and other societal influences.
Beyond the drugs, sex and rock'n'roll their boomer and Gen X parents navigated, technology and consumerism have accelerated the pace of life, giving kids easy access to influences that may or may not be parent-approved. Sex, violence and foul language that used to be relegated to late-night viewing and R-rated movies are expected fixtures in everyday TV.
And many tweens model what they see, including common plot lines "where the kids are really running the house, not the dysfunctional parents," says Plante, who in addition to being Zach's dad is a psychology professor at Santa Clara University in California's Silicon Valley.
He sees the results of all these factors in his private practice frequently.
Kids look and dress older. They struggle to process the images of sex, violence and adult humor, even when their parents try to shield them. And sometimes, he says, parents end up encouraging the behavior by failing to set limits — in essence, handing over power to their kids.

"You get this kind of perfect storm of variables that would suggest that, yes, kids are becoming teens at an earlier age," Plante says.
Natalie Wickstrom, a 10-year-old in suburban Atlanta, says girls her age sometimes wear clothes that are "a little inappropriate." She describes how one friend tied her shirt to show her stomach and "liked to dance, like in rap videos."
Girls in her class also talk about not only liking but "having relationships" with boys.
"There's no rules, no limitations to what they can do," says Natalie, who's also in fifth grade.
Her mom, Billie Wickstrom, says the teen-like behavior of her daughter's peers, influences her daughter — as does parents' willingness to allow it.
"Some parents make it hard on those of us who are trying to hold their kids back a bit," she says.
So far, she and her husband have resisted letting Natalie get her ears pierced, something many of her friends have already done. Now Natalie is lobbying hard for a cell phone and also wants an iPod.
"Sometimes I just think that maybe, if I got one of these things, I could talk about what they talk about," Natalie says of the kids she deems the "popular ones."
It's an age-old issue. Kids want to fit in — and younger kids want to be like older kids.
But as the limits have been pushed, experts say the stakes also have gotten higher — with parents and tweens having to deal with very grown-up issues such as pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. Earlier this year, that point hit home when federal officials recommended a vaccine for HPV — a common STD that can lead to cervical cancer — for girls as young as age 9.
"Physically, they're adults, but cognitively, they're children," says Alderman, the physician in New York. She's found that cultural influences have affected her own children, too.
Earlier this year, her 12-year-old son heard the popular pop song "Promiscuous" and asked her what the word meant.
"I mean, it's OK to have that conversation, but when it's constantly playing, it normalizes it," Alderman says.
She observes that parents sometimes gravitate to one of two ill-advised extremes — they're either horrified by such questions from their kids, or they "revel" in the teen-like behavior. As an example of the latter reaction, she notes how some parents think it's cute when their daughters wear pants or shorts with words such as "hottie" on the back.
"Believe me, I'm a very open-minded person. But it promotes a certain way of thinking about girls and their back sides," Alderman says. "A 12-year-old isn't sexy."
With grown-up influences coming from so many different angles — from peers to the Internet and TV — some parents say the trend is difficult to combat.
Claire Unterseher, a mother in Chicago, says she only allows her children — including an 8-year-old son and 7-year-old daughter — to watch public television.
And yet, already, they're coming home from school asking to download songs she considers more appropriate for teens.
"I think I bought my first Abba single when I was 13 or 14 — and here my 7-year-old wants me to download Kelly Clarkson all the time," Unterseher says. "Why are they so interested in all this adult stuff?"
Part of it, experts say, is marketing — and tweens are much-sought-after consumers.
Advertisers have found that, increasingly, children and teens are influencing the buying decisions in their households — from cars to computers and family vacations. According to 360 Youth, an umbrella organization for various youth marketing groups, tweens represent $51 billion worth of annual spending power on their own from gifts and allowance, and also have a great deal of say about the additional $170 billion spent directly on them each year.
Toymakers also have picked up on tweens' interest in older themes and developed toy lines to meet the demand — from dolls known as Bratz to video games with more violence.
Diane Levin, a professor of human development and early childhood at Wheelock College in Boston, is among those who've taken aim at toys deemed too violent or sexual.
"We've crossed a line. We can no longer avoid it — it's just so in our face," says Levin, author of the upcoming book "So Sexy So Soon: The Sexualization of Childhood."
Earlier this year, she and others from a group known as the Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood successfully pressured toy maker Hasbro to drop plans for a line of children's toys modeled after the singing group Pussycat Dolls.
Other parents, including Clyde Otis III, are trying their own methods.
An attorney with a background in music publishing, Otis has compiled a line of CDs called "Music Talking" that includes classic oldies he believes are interesting to tweens, but age appropriate. Artists include Aretha Franklin, Rose Royce and Blessid Union of Souls.
"I don't want to be like a prude. But some of the stuff out there, it's just out of control sometimes," says Otis, a father of three from Maplewood, N.J.
"Beyonce singing about bouncing her butt all over the place is a little much — at least for an 8-year-old."
In the end, many parents find it tricky to strike a balance between setting limits and allowing their kids to be more independent.
Plante, in California, discovered that a few weeks ago when he and Zach rode bikes to school, as the two of them have done since the first day of kindergarten.
"You know, dad, you don't have to bike to school with me anymore," Zach said.
Plante was taken aback.
"It was a poignant moment," he says. "There was this notion of being embarrassed of having parents be too close."
Since then, Zach has been riding by himself — a big step in his dad's mind.
"Of course, it is hard to let go, but we all need to do so in various ways over time," Plante says, "as long as we do it thoughtfully and lovingly, I suppose."
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___ Martha Irvine is a national writer specializing in coverage of people in their 20s and younger.



Copyright © 2006 The Associated Press.
 

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Ya, I agree there is something amiss. My 10 year old godson lately has been calling me "Yo". His hair is slowly going punk along with his attire and he has developed an "attitude". Seems kids are slowly losing respect and discipline.
 

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I made a conscious effort to study teen programming where it was offered in California....

It is almost cult like with new ideas to keep the kidlets interested - whereas the teens are now becoming narcissistic little adults with demands which would destroy most of the parental rights - we now have a
generation of undeveloped little tyrants who are copying what their great teacher television and jock/rock stars and deejays are telling them is the cool way to be....

Designer diapers coming.....and only intellectually stimulating toys ie: preschool poker, tiny tot temptations.

Maybe it will devolve full circle one day and adults will reclaim their charge of families and kids and demand respect where little is shown except towards the mighty dollar which apparently is the god-like figure we all worship whether we admit it or not.

Meanwhile parenting seems to have succumbed and is now cowering in the corner in fear of the kids reporting the tyrannical responses of mom or pop to child abuse authorities.

At the present time .... it's going to be a rough ride.
 

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I feel it is a bleak future sometimes. My parents spanked me when I did something wrong, and that was enough to make me never repeat what I did. They made sure I knew what was right and wrong, and they knew when I had done something full well knowing what I did was wrong. Now, I don't know if I can do that same thing in the future with my kids. I don't have any yet, and who knows how bad it will be by then. I have noticed a swing towards disrespect, and I feel it is because we've handcuffed parents from being able to use a good technique. My parents never spanked or hit me out of anger, though my mother seems to think she did. I look back and I'm glad they did what they did. I'm well adjusted, I respect other people and their opinions. Another problem as I see it is much like Curio just said, money. Todays fast paced lifestyle has kids and parents spending less time together, and I think that this is negatively impacting the path these young kids are taking. They need guidance and that is up to parents. For this reason, I'm hopefull that I will do allright as a parent, so long as I keep my priorities balanced.
 

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The kids aren't any happier either - and if they are displeased - they are sent for counselling rather than some good old fashion family interaction.....

I don't know how much U.S. television is cabled up to Canada but some of the channels are pretty terrible...

For example there are Sweet Sixteen Birthdays - a child (generally a girl) of a billionaire is having her Sweet Sixteen and gets to play Madonna for a nite or whatever.... millions are spent on pleasing her and her little friends....in an evening of adult music, drinking, limos, headliner gowns to wear... and then she gets an exported auto as a bonus....

Real World - MTV - even the sitcoms with kids these days where the kids' lines are all mouthy rejections of the adults in the scene...

It's scary.... Parents should be geared for battle and I admire those who take it on.
 

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Parents will have to battle hard against the two enemies that are trying to take their kids: government and media. Government has enacted law after law to put parents on the defensive and kids are encouraged to report them if they fall short in any area. Child abuse is the scourge of our time - supposedly - but it keeps a helluva lot of public officials employed.
Media need to be tarred and feathered. They ruthlessly targets kids for commercial exploitation. They work hard and long to sexualize children to ensure they enter the consumer marketplace more aggressively each year to stroke their egos and please their peers.
Western culture has gone mad. It's stupid. No wonder Islamic extremism is doing so well. The Great Satan is stumbling, it's eating its own kids.
I don't know how western society can save itself. It isn't built on freedom. It's built on regulation and bullying. And parents have endured so much from this callow construct. We shall see!
 

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It's not only the media and government to blame I place the blame firmly on the shoulders of parents to weak to enforce rules. Parents that pander to their kids every wim, do 10 year olds really need a computer, a game boy, a DVD player the list of gadgets is endless. Parents have to stop expecting society to raise their children while they work to provide unnecessary luxuries and toys for their kids. Children go school to learn not be be baby sat or raised by the teachers. Parents need to be responsible for their kids and stop making excuses, they can turn the TV off and regulate what their children see. It's not the governments job to raise these kids it's the parents job.
 

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Sassy, you're right. But it's also the government's job to support parents, not to marginalize or demean them. It does both. Look at media and the mainstreaming of pornography. Doesn't government have anything to do with this? Damn right it does! The jackasses hide behing their admonitions to parents to stay the watch! To monitor their kids. The govs talk out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to children. They should fire all their childcare consultants and just use their tiny little beaners to glean some semblance of common sense.
 

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there are a lot of issues at play in the changing childhood.

"capitalism will eat itself": with parents working more hours to serve their addictions....; the drive for market growth leaves children ripe for the picking....
the invention of childhood categories: the west creates its own issues with the defining of stages of growth that are not organic.

ulimately a consumerist society will consume itself, and die.
 

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I agree with both your post Tamarin and Caracal Kid but what is the solution, I don't have children but I have many sisters and brothers that do and wow I'm glad I have a dog.
 

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It's not only the media and government to blame I place the blame firmly on the shoulders of parents to weak to enforce rules. Parents that pander to their kids every wim, do 10 year olds really need a computer, a game boy, a DVD player the list of gadgets is endless. Parents have to stop expecting society to raise their children while they work to provide unnecessary luxuries and toys for their kids. Children go school to learn not be be baby sat or raised by the teachers. Parents need to be responsible for their kids and stop making excuses, they can turn the TV off and regulate what their children see. It's not the governments job to raise these kids it's the parents job.


It sounds easy, what you wrote, but in fact this generation of children is vastly different in many ways than any previous one, which is why so many studies are involved in this area. Parents for the most part are quite involved in trying to stem the tide, but they are battling an extensive media network such as never been encountered before. In simple terms, kids today are hooked up to the electronic world in an alarming fashion. The information relayed to them is immense. A 14 year old today, though emotionally and psychologically the same as any other generation at that age, is still substantially more aware of the outside world than any previous generation of 14 year olds.
 

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there are a lot of issues at play in the changing childhood.

"capitalism will eat itself": with parents working more hours to serve their addictions....; the drive for market growth leaves children ripe for the picking....
the invention of childhood categories: the west creates its own issues with the defining of stages of growth that are not organic.

ulimately a consumerist society will consume itself, and die.

I don't think you're far off the mark here. The need to aquire things, and just to survive due to the high costs of living, has put the family structure into peril. Parents are tired from earning a living. Not that that is an excuse for lazy parenting, but it is a factor in their decision making processes as parents.
 

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It's not only the media and government to blame I place the blame firmly on the shoulders of parents to weak to enforce rules. Parents that pander to their kids every wim, do 10 year olds really need a computer, a game boy, a DVD player the list of gadgets is endless. Parents have to stop expecting society to raise their children while they work to provide unnecessary luxuries and toys for their kids. Children go school to learn not be be baby sat or raised by the teachers. Parents need to be responsible for their kids and stop making excuses, they can turn the TV off and regulate what their children see. It's not the governments job to raise these kids it's the parents job.


I would suspect that most parents are far from trying to earn money for luxuries, but in fact are just trying to earn money to survive.That they pander to the consumerism of society is certainly not correct, but the media is a hard tool to handle well in the average household.
 

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I have a daughter who will turn 11 in a month or so... I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm not a prude, but I take a pretty hard line with what I let her watch and listen to. Look at some of the music videos, most have lots of sexual imagery and lyrics. I don't let her watch MuchMusic or MTV, nor will I let her read the celebrity rags. I find I have to fight against 'consumerism' pushed daily from all directions at our little ones.
 

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You're doing a great service to your daughter Mike. She should grow up with an understanding of the value of a dollar, and hopefuly she doesn't develop the "I want" disorder.
 

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Good luck, Mike! Given the 'enemy' you face as a parent you'll need it. Western society hasn't fumbled or dropped the ball on childhood. It's buried it.
Kids today know more of the world than when I grew up in the sixties? No way! Back then boys were very academically competitive and knew what was going on in the world. Very few of today's kids could compete with the best of the average from the sixties. Just because you're wired and electronically connected doesn'tt mean you've developed some cosmopolitan edge. On the contrary, most online time for teens is wasted on silly chats and major web neighbourhoods like myspace. Teens lose their innocence far more quickly today than then but that doesn't add to their IQ.