Men who stay trim live longer, healthier lives: study

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One of the largest, longest studies of aging in men found one more reason to stay trim and active: it could greatly raise your odds of living to at least age 85.

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One of the largest, longest studies of aging in men found one more reason to stay trim and active: it could greatly raise your odds of living to at least age 85.

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It would be hard to find something less surprising. More fitness = longer life. That's amazing. I wonder how many millions were used to fund that study?
 

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Wow, that is some breaking news...That is a good question TenPenny. Maybe next they can study men who are healthy and active but also smoke cigarettes.
 

Kreskin

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I guess I don't pass.

You forgot to capitalize the w in whisky.
 

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Its not so obvious why----

The inhabitants of Okinawa japan have an extraordinarily long lifespan--even for the japaneese,

This is thought to be due to their culturally reinforced diet which is extremely LOW calorie one---less by choice than the habit of culture--

Being thin here means less calories not necessarily more fitness (i dont believe they are particularly more ACTIVE)----and therefore less exposure to the oxidants in food . Oxidant induced damage being a chief culprit in the mechanisms of aging.

Experimentally it has been proven that the longevity of lab rats can be significantly extended by a LOW calorie diet--

And in fact subnormal calorie diets are even more effective--no joke.

This is so well known in the rodent community that the control group is launching a class action lawsuit.
 

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The number one factor in longevity is genes. Studies have already shown that those who exercise and watch their diet can expect to live on average only six months longer than those who don't.
I remember the great runner James Fix and his wonderful fitness program. He said in his book on running that it was goal of men to exceed 52. Because that was the age that seemed to catch those prone to heart disease. And Fix confirmed his speculation. Trim, healthy and vigorous, he died at - 52.
 

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The number one factor in longevity is genes. Studies have already shown that those who exercise and watch their diet can expect to live on average only six months longer than those who don't.
I remember the great runner James Fix and his wonderful fitness program. He said in his book on running that it was goal of men to exceed 52. Because that was the age that seemed to catch those prone to heart disease. And Fix confirmed his speculation. Trim, healthy and vigorous, he died at - 52.

My brother constantly nagged me about my health, smoking (until I quit), my weight, too much salt in my diet, high cholesterol..............etc. He was fit, watched his diet religiously......etc.

He died Saturday night after an operation for a tumor in his sinus cavity..............he was 56.

Three weeks ago, when he knew he was going for surgery, he told me on the phone "You know, I'm going to be REALLY pissed if you outlive me............."

Well, he can be pissed, I guess.

The Law of Averages is just that..............:( :( :( :(
 

Kreskin

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Geez Colpy I'm sorry to hear about your brother. You just never know when your time is up.
 

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Hey Colpy, sorry about your brother, man, that's way too young to die. It's gotta be mostly just the luck of the draw with genetics. I'm 57 and (as far as I know) perfectly healthy, despite some decades in which I drank and smoked far too much. At my age my father was diabetic, hypertensive, had high cholesterol, had been operated upon for gallstones and a bleeding ulcer, and was a few years away from a major episode of congestive heart failure that resulted in open heart surgery, a valve replacement, and a quadruple bypass. And at my age my dad's brother was dead of cardiovascular disease. Somehow it seems significant that they were both about 50 kg overweight for most of their lives, and I've never been overweight. But I also seem to have the genes from my mother's side. Her father smoked like a steam engine from the time he was 11 years old until well into his 70s, he got no exercise anybody ever heard of, and ate mostly brown and white food, no vegetables. And he almost made it to 100. But he was lean all his life.

Look around: fat men don't get old.
 

Kreskin

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Hey Colpy, sorry about your brother, man, that's way too young to die. It's gotta be mostly just the luck of the draw with genetics. I'm 57 and (as far as I know) perfectly healthy, despite some decades in which I drank and smoked far too much. At my age my father was diabetic, hypertensive, had high cholesterol, had been operated upon for gallstones and a bleeding ulcer, and was a few years away from a major episode of congestive heart failure that resulted in open heart surgery, a valve replacement, and a quadruple bypass. And at my age my dad's brother was dead of cardiovascular disease. Somehow it seems significant that they were both about 50 kg overweight for most of their lives, and I've never been overweight. But I also seem to have the genes from my mother's side. Her father smoked like a steam engine from the time he was 11 years old until well into his 70s, he got no exercise anybody ever heard of, and ate mostly brown and white food, no vegetables. And he almost made it to 100. But he was lean all his life.

Look around: fat men don't get old.

True. I've never seen an obese 90 year old.
 

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I am completely shocked. What a revelation.

No Kidding :D

There's probably a lot of reasons for this. Here is an interesting article which shows one reason why this is so.

A major cause of aging is thought to result from the cumulative effects of cell loss over time. In yeast, caloric restriction (CR) delays aging by activating the Sir2 deacetylase. Here we show that expression of mammalian Sir2 (SIRT1) is induced in CR rats as well as in human cells that are treated with serum from these animals. Insulin and insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) attenuated this response. SIRT1 deacetylates the DNA repair factor Ku70, causing it to sequester the proapoptotic factor Bax away from mitochondria, thereby inhibiting stress-induced apoptotic cell death. Thus, CR could extend life-span by inducing SIRT1 expression and promoting the long-term survival of irreplaceable cells.
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This is similar to the effects of resveratrol (the subject of a previous thread):

The team also asked if SIRT1 was activated by resveratrol in mice, as Sir2 is in lower organisms. To determine this, they looked at the amount of a specific chemical modification (acetylation) on the molecule PGC-1alpha. Removal of the "acetyl" chemical groups on PGC-1alpha activates this protein so that it can turn on certain genes that generate mitochondria and turn muscle into the type suited for endurance. The only enzyme known to remove the acetyl chemical groups on PGC-1alpha is SIRT1, and therefore the activity of PGC-1alpha is one of the most reliable and specific markers of SIRT1 activity in mammals. The research team found that levels of PGC-1alpha were three-fold lower in the HCR fed mice than in the HC mice, consistent with what would be expected when SIRT1 was being activated by resveratrol.
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Which probably explains this:

WASHINGTON — Obese mice on a high-fat diet got the benefits of being thin — living healthier, longer lives — without the pain of dieting when they consumed huge doses of red wine extract, according to a landmark new study.
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Hi there,

There is so many factors to take into account when dealing with evaluating someone's health. We need to look if the weight we are talking about is not affecting blood vessels or 1000 of other factors.

There is so much to understand about how certain food is divine for someone when it can be deadly to others. No doctors can say that they know 100% their patients. (Let's exclude Mr. Bush Dr. and maybee few elites others...)

To conclude being health mean feeling great when you do what you do. You may be able to test certain products in natural shops where side effects are rarely bad. Being thin, slim, what-ever they call it these day's... dosen't really matter as long as YOU FEEL GOOD !!!

John Muff
 

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Im reminded of this

Nutrition and health. It's a relief to know the truth after all those conflicting medical studies.

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

3. The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans

4. The Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the British or Americans.

CONCLUSION: Speaking English is what kills you. Eat and drink what you like.
 

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Colpy, indeed, that's a young age to leave at. Hope you have lots of wonderful memories to keep with you over the years ahead. My condolences.