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Posts: 6,500 
September 27th, 2006, 06:32 AM
Support Our Troops
Whether one does or does not depends upon a personal opinions and these are one of the things our service men and women fight for us to keep. Our dissenting honest opinions.
In our family we do not talk about the possibility of death. It is there like a dagger in our heart every day - the dark cloud following us during the long absence of the loved one.
I have found comfort and consolation and the ability to handle the very real nightmares which occur....
in knowing we defy/escape injury and death every day in our own "peaceful" world using automobiles, or
being challenged by a terminal illness, or a housefire, or an act of violence in our personal life.
We know it is out there, but we do not hide in our closets each day expecting the worst.
Respect for those who choose to belong to a group in either an aggression or protection mode for our own people at home or people in a far off land - is the least we can offer. That and our gratitude when they return.
Disagree with the mission, even the commitment of the military, but do not dishonor their work.
Support Our Troops
Whether one does or does not depends upon a personal opinions and these are one of the things our service men and women fight for us to keep. Our dissenting honest opinions.
In our family we do not talk about the possibility of death. It is there like a dagger in our heart every day - the dark cloud following us during the long absence of the loved one.
I have found comfort and consolation and the ability to handle the very real nightmares which occur....
in knowing we defy/escape injury and death every day in our own "peaceful" world using automobiles, or
being challenged by a terminal illness, or a housefire, or an act of violence in our personal life.
We know it is out there, but we do not hide in our closets each day expecting the worst.
Respect for those who choose to belong to a group in either an aggression or protection mode for our own people at home or people in a far off land - is the least we can offer. That and our gratitude when they return.
Disagree with the mission, even the commitment of the military, but do not dishonor their work.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 526
Location: Pointy Rocks
Location: Pointy Rocks
September 27th, 2006, 06:34 AM
Not supporting the Canadian troops is alot like not supporting police officers or firefighters. I don't support the War on Drugs but support police who put their lives on the line to do their job. Policies must be changed at political level, so supporting (or not) armed forces or police will get you nowhere.
Not supporting the Canadian troops is alot like not supporting police officers or firefighters. I don't support the War on Drugs but support police who put their lives on the line to do their job. Policies must be changed at political level, so supporting (or not) armed forces or police will get you nowhere.
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Posts: 6,500
September 27th, 2006, 06:40 AM
iART...
Good analogy - in our towns and cities, we expect to be protected and the laws obeyed and someone has to do the job - no matter how unpleasant and even violent in some cases.
It would be a great world if we needed none of these - no police, no military - only emergency workers for fire and life threatening events on a domestic level.
Think it will ever happen? Are we ever gonna learn to get along without a conflict somewhere?
The problems could be solved by investing in the solutions instead of spending huge amounts of money creating warfare.
iART...
Good analogy - in our towns and cities, we expect to be protected and the laws obeyed and someone has to do the job - no matter how unpleasant and even violent in some cases.
It would be a great world if we needed none of these - no police, no military - only emergency workers for fire and life threatening events on a domestic level.
Think it will ever happen? Are we ever gonna learn to get along without a conflict somewhere?
The problems could be solved by investing in the solutions instead of spending huge amounts of money creating warfare.
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September 27th, 2006, 06:44 AM
hmm I meant no dishonour, that's for sure, but I do think that anyone who joins the services can expect people to shoot at them. that's why i wouldn't do it.
sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery
hmm I meant no dishonour, that's for sure, but I do think that anyone who joins the services can expect people to shoot at them. that's why i wouldn't do it.
sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery
Genius
Posts: 998
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
September 27th, 2006, 12:03 PM
I wouldn't compare soldiers to police officers or fire fighters. The police and fire fighters are in our cities protecting us. Our soldiers are fighting in foreign wars that have nothing to do with protecting our country. If someone tried to invade and they were fighting them at our door then they would be protecting us. Our soldiers are not protecting me right now. In fact, there presence in Afghanistan is only increasing the chance of a terrorist attack. Studies show that whenever a Muslim country is invaded that more Muslims around the world join terrorist organizations. The chance of a terrorist attack on Canada has increased since we got involved in this so called war on terror. This notion that we have to get them before they get us is stupid. We are only making more enemies.
I wouldn't compare soldiers to police officers or fire fighters. The police and fire fighters are in our cities protecting us. Our soldiers are fighting in foreign wars that have nothing to do with protecting our country. If someone tried to invade and they were fighting them at our door then they would be protecting us. Our soldiers are not protecting me right now. In fact, there presence in Afghanistan is only increasing the chance of a terrorist attack. Studies show that whenever a Muslim country is invaded that more Muslims around the world join terrorist organizations. The chance of a terrorist attack on Canada has increased since we got involved in this so called war on terror. This notion that we have to get them before they get us is stupid. We are only making more enemies.
Theism Exorcist
Posts: 368
Location: The Capitol
Location: The Capitol
September 27th, 2006, 12:09 PM
Complete halt of us support for Isreal in it's offenisve against arabs in the west bank
Complete halt of support for coruppt arab goverments in the middle east (ie the saudis )
Complete withdrawl of US forces from the muslim holy lands (Again the saudis )
Notice a trend here of his three main demands ( one which was soley to gather support amoung arabs i don't think he cares about the west bank one way or another )two relate to his country he doesn't care what americans do in the states only what they do in his part of the world and how they affect his people .
Quoting CDNBear
Same People ? i think not we are two diffrent countires who happen to share a border and common history that does not mean we suite up and join whatever ill fated adventure the us get's itself involved in .
It's funny how a lot of Canadians make a distinction between us and the States. We are esentially the same people. Brothers of the same mother. If you slap my lil brother, I can assure you, you will feel the weight of my immediete response.
Quoting CDNBear
The taliban are part of the civilian people in afgahnistan they are an elelment of thier society and if we ever hope to build a safe and free afghanistan these elements have to be engaed in DISSCUSSION . They have populat support in the south of the country and that is a fact we can no longer ignore or overlook engaing them in disscussion is the only way to end the insurgancy in afghanistan .
As much as I am sure the US entered Afganistan for oil. Our Troops are there to weed out the Taliban and its supporters. All the while giving aid and comfort to the civilian peoples of Afganistan.
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Quoting CDNBear
ERRRRR wrong 9/11 was an attack on the us alone as a result of us forgien policy if u read bin laden's demands Prior to 9/11 u would understand none of them included anythign about what we do in our own countries . if i remember correctly his demands included :
9/11 wasn't an attack on the US alone. It was an attack against the western lifestyle. The "WORLD" Trade center is not a solely "AMERICAN" target and was the financial hub of the globe..
Complete halt of us support for Isreal in it's offenisve against arabs in the west bank
Complete halt of support for coruppt arab goverments in the middle east (ie the saudis )
Complete withdrawl of US forces from the muslim holy lands (Again the saudis )
Notice a trend here of his three main demands ( one which was soley to gather support amoung arabs i don't think he cares about the west bank one way or another )two relate to his country he doesn't care what americans do in the states only what they do in his part of the world and how they affect his people .
Quoting CDNBear
"Eye for an eye leaves us all blind " Pay back is exactly what this is about sadley instead of actualyl aressting the criminal who did this the us chose to invade iraq and our presence in afghnistan allows them to commite more forces in iraq truth is the US started this sess pool and we are cleaning up after them .
Don't forget, Canadians died in the WTC on 9/11 to. I'm not all for just remembering them sweetly once a year. I'm all for getting some pay back. Not just for them either. For the rest of the men, women and children that perrished on that day.
Quoting CDNBear
Freeing the people of afghanistan didn't seem to matter to anyone till they attacked the us the hypocrisy of that statment shocks me the dam west was buying guns for the taliban when they were fighting the russines it seems that so long as they pick thier enemey right they can inflict as much evil on the afghan people as they want utter BS .
The Taliban allowed their country to foster evil and enflicted evil upon its own citizens under the guise of religion. Removing the global terrorist threat, as well as, freeing the peoples of Afganistan from tyranny, is exactly what our military was ment for. I believe it is the exact action Lester B. Pearson would have wanted the Canada/UN to change for the better. Not sit back and watch idly on the tube as more planes fell from the sky or dove in to CIVILIAN targets.
Bright Spark
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Location: In Monsoon West (B.C)
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September 27th, 2006, 12:28 PM
Damn the last two people really hate the armed forces.
Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.
Wrong!!
Damn the last two people really hate the armed forces.
Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.
Wrong!!
Senate Member
Posts: 6,500
September 27th, 2006, 12:39 PM
I just now saw this post - if you mean it to mean me - thanks - no harm done at all at all. Sorry I took so long in responding.
Quoting hermanntrude
Hi Hermann
hmm I meant no dishonour, that's for sure, but I do think that anyone who joins the services can expect people to shoot at them. that's why i wouldn't do it.
sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery
sorry if i broke your taboo. I hope that your loved ones come home safely and I respect their bravery
I just now saw this post - if you mean it to mean me - thanks - no harm done at all at all. Sorry I took so long in responding.
Genius
Posts: 998
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
Location: Was Victoria, now Ottawa
September 27th, 2006, 02:01 PM
Researcher87, where did anyone say that the armed forces are thugs? Don't blur the argument. My point is that the military is not protecting us by fighting in this war. They are increasing the chances of an attack in Canada by creating more enemies. I'm not saying the military is bad or our soldiers are thugs. I'm saying that our soldiers are not protecting us right now. The news should not say that our soldiers are fighting for our country because they're not. How are they fighting for our freedom? That’s nonsense.
Researcher87, where did anyone say that the armed forces are thugs? Don't blur the argument. My point is that the military is not protecting us by fighting in this war. They are increasing the chances of an attack in Canada by creating more enemies. I'm not saying the military is bad or our soldiers are thugs. I'm saying that our soldiers are not protecting us right now. The news should not say that our soldiers are fighting for our country because they're not. How are they fighting for our freedom? That’s nonsense.
Theism Exorcist
Posts: 368
Location: The Capitol
Location: The Capitol
September 27th, 2006, 05:02 PM
supporting the troops is supporting the mission same mantra was used to silence oppositon to the iraq was in the us .
Afghanistan is a pointless war and i don't think anyone should be killed over it it's the US's mess let them clean it up no reason canadian blood has to be shed to back up the us .
The fighting in afighanistan does nothing to make me safer subduing the taliban and finding OBL are two completley differnt mission taking place in two completlet diffrent parts of the country .
Quoting Researcher87
I don't hate anyone the points i'am making a simple
Damn the last two people really hate the armed forces.
Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.
Wrong!!
Well if it snows in Toronto, or if it floods in Winnpeg don't expect the army to come save your ass then because they don't seem to protect you. They are just some men and women thugs who go overseas and kill people because they like to do kill people.
Wrong!!
supporting the troops is supporting the mission same mantra was used to silence oppositon to the iraq was in the us .
Afghanistan is a pointless war and i don't think anyone should be killed over it it's the US's mess let them clean it up no reason canadian blood has to be shed to back up the us .
The fighting in afighanistan does nothing to make me safer subduing the taliban and finding OBL are two completley differnt mission taking place in two completlet diffrent parts of the country .
