Steven Hawking's Tutor
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Location: Kamloops BC
Location: Kamloops BC
May 9th, 2005, 01:07 PM
The media is silent are politicians are silent and a confirmed nut job is getting ready to test a nuke
What the f..k is really going on here? 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ea-nukes_x.htm
The media is silent are politicians are silent and a confirmed nut job is getting ready to test a nuke
What the f..k is really going on here? http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ea-nukes_x.htm
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 5,380
Location: Kamloops BC
Location: Kamloops BC
May 9th, 2005, 01:29 PM
Just a nut job with Nukes and missiles Rev and he seems quite willing to hold the world hostage with them Thank the US and Pakistan for that oh aren't they allies One country hands over the material and the other technique to build them 
Just a nut job with Nukes and missiles Rev and he seems quite willing to hold the world hostage with them
Thank the US and Pakistan for that oh aren't they allies One country hands over the material and the other technique to build them Super Genius
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Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg
May 9th, 2005, 02:05 PM
I wouldn't worry to much about Kim and his nukes. He has very few nukes (likely more than, probably no more than eight)and, while he is obviously insane, he has shown no signs of being suicidal. He knows damned well that if he fires a nuke anywhere that North Korea will quickly become a smoking hole in the ground.
He has a long record of using the nuclear threat as a negotiating tactic for increased aid...the more nukes, the more negotiating clout.
This whole thing could likely have been avoided if the US would have negotiated like diplomats instead of trying to bully and threaten. John Bolton holds a lot of responsibility for the positioning of things right now.
I wouldn't worry to much about Kim and his nukes. He has very few nukes (likely more than, probably no more than eight)and, while he is obviously insane, he has shown no signs of being suicidal. He knows damned well that if he fires a nuke anywhere that North Korea will quickly become a smoking hole in the ground.
He has a long record of using the nuclear threat as a negotiating tactic for increased aid...the more nukes, the more negotiating clout.
This whole thing could likely have been avoided if the US would have negotiated like diplomats instead of trying to bully and threaten. John Bolton holds a lot of responsibility for the positioning of things right now.
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Location: Beauharnois, Québec
Location: Beauharnois, Québec
May 9th, 2005, 02:35 PM
...shocking really... 
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Are you implying that the mighty USA could be wrong about how they deal with other country...
I wouldn't worry to much about Kim and his nukes. He has very few nukes (likely more than, probably no more than eight)and, while he is obviously insane, he has shown no signs of being suicidal. He knows damned well that if he fires a nuke anywhere that North Korea will quickly become a smoking hole in the ground.
He has a long record of using the nuclear threat as a negotiating tactic for increased aid...the more nukes, the more negotiating clout.
This whole thing could likely have been avoided if the US would have negotiated like diplomats instead of trying to bully and threaten. John Bolton holds a lot of responsibility for the positioning of things right now.
He has a long record of using the nuclear threat as a negotiating tactic for increased aid...the more nukes, the more negotiating clout.
This whole thing could likely have been avoided if the US would have negotiated like diplomats instead of trying to bully and threaten. John Bolton holds a lot of responsibility for the positioning of things right now.
...shocking really... Genius
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Location: Whitby, Ontario
Location: Whitby, Ontario
May 9th, 2005, 02:58 PM
Really why can't N. Korea have nuclear weapons? Who says who can or cannot have them. I mean, why should the only country to use them in combat (not once, but twice) decide who can have them?
Same with Iraq and Iran, why can't they have nuclear weapons, but their neighbour Israel can. It makes no sense.
I'm not advocating everyone get them, but I've yet to hear a logical arguement why a certain country can produce them and another can't.
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A threat to who? China, South Korea, Japan? Certainly not to me in Toronto. I mean, I don't want to sound like I don't care but really when are these regions going to sovle these problems on their own. Western interference is the cause of the problem on the Korean Pen. The US backing of S Korea and the fall of the USSR has shifted power back to S. Korea, so N. Korea is only trying to even up.
The media is silent are politicians are silent and a confirmed nut job is getting ready to test a nuke What the f..k is really going on here?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ea-nukes_x.htm
What the f..k is really going on here? http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ea-nukes_x.htm
Really why can't N. Korea have nuclear weapons? Who says who can or cannot have them. I mean, why should the only country to use them in combat (not once, but twice) decide who can have them?
Same with Iraq and Iran, why can't they have nuclear weapons, but their neighbour Israel can. It makes no sense.
I'm not advocating everyone get them, but I've yet to hear a logical arguement why a certain country can produce them and another can't.
Bright Spark
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Location: In a Tunisian Prison awaiting extra
Location: In a Tunisian Prison awaiting extra
May 9th, 2005, 04:54 PM
Indeed, North Korea is the real threat as they actually HAVE WMD's! But the US is prone to attack those that are basically helpless and who possess vast reserves of oil that MAY get WMD's sometime in the distant future. See?
Indeed, North Korea is the real threat as they actually HAVE WMD's! But the US is prone to attack those that are basically helpless and who possess vast reserves of oil that MAY get WMD's sometime in the distant future. See?
Genius
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Location: Whitby, Ontario
Location: Whitby, Ontario
May 10th, 2005, 09:28 AM
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That's the point, N Korea can't hit the States. Most of the smaller nuclear powers only have short range missiles. Really, only Russia could ever hit the US or Canada from their own country.
Not your problem till one misses the states and lands in Canada or one goes off over there and we get the radioactive fallout here Its a world problem DasFX 
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Location: Whitby, Ontario
Location: Whitby, Ontario
May 10th, 2005, 09:29 AM
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Yes, and the leaders of all the other Nuclear powers all have a good sensible head on their shoulder, like GWB!
What makes North Korea different, is that 'Dear Leader' Kim Jong-Il is a certifiable nutjob and sociopath. I would think that a nuke in the hand of a guy like that would make anybody nervous.
A well-aimed rifle bullet would solve many problems.
A well-aimed rifle bullet would solve many problems.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
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Location: Kamloops BC
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May 10th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Thats funny you say that DasFX were did you hear that main stream media maybe ?their missile tech has got better and better and their very close to dropping one on North America. But thats not the point they set one off and the fallout will contaminate the world with more radiation. Being in canada won't matter there will be no place to hide
Thats funny you say that DasFX were did you hear that main stream media maybe ?their missile tech has got better and better and their very close to dropping one on North America. But thats not the point they set one off and the fallout will contaminate the world with more radiation. Being in canada won't matter there will be no place to hide
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May 10th, 2005, 11:12 AM
I wouldn't put it past Kimmy to do something. Castro was willing to sacrifice the whole of Cuba for the Commi cause, why not Kimmy?
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They only have one or two missiles that even have an off chance of reaching North America, Mom. They won't use them because they would ensuring their own destruction.
I wouldn't put it past Kimmy to do something. Castro was willing to sacrifice the whole of Cuba for the Commi cause, why not Kimmy?
Super Genius
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Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg
May 10th, 2005, 11:27 AM
Actually Castro was extremely reluctant to allow the USSR to put their missiles in Cuba. The thing is that the US embargo left him with no way to make money and he was afraid of a full-scale US invasion, so he allowed the missiles in exchange for aid and access to Russian markets and hoped for the best.
Trying to compare Cuba/Castro and North Korea/Kim is silly though. The situations are completely different and the leaders are completely different.
Actually Castro was extremely reluctant to allow the USSR to put their missiles in Cuba. The thing is that the US embargo left him with no way to make money and he was afraid of a full-scale US invasion, so he allowed the missiles in exchange for aid and access to Russian markets and hoped for the best.
Trying to compare Cuba/Castro and North Korea/Kim is silly though. The situations are completely different and the leaders are completely different.
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May 10th, 2005, 11:49 AM
No it is not silly. They may be "different" but so is every other commi cult that starts. The similarities are good enough. They are communists and they hate America, and they have nukes.
You can't repaint Castro the way you want to see him.
Castro was more than willing to sacrifice Cuba, and this is plainly known, and mentioned fully in a documentary I watched on him, on WQLN, a few weeks ago. The guy was not only willing to have Cuba destroyed but start Armageddon also. He's a Commi, and I expect nothing less from him and his kind.
Therefore I trust Korea to do the same.
http://www.neoliberalismo.com/Archivo-01/sad_day.htm
A link for those interested.
No it is not silly. They may be "different" but so is every other commi cult that starts. The similarities are good enough. They are communists and they hate America, and they have nukes.
You can't repaint Castro the way you want to see him.
Castro was more than willing to sacrifice Cuba, and this is plainly known, and mentioned fully in a documentary I watched on him, on WQLN, a few weeks ago. The guy was not only willing to have Cuba destroyed but start Armageddon also. He's a Commi, and I expect nothing less from him and his kind.
Therefore I trust Korea to do the same.
http://www.neoliberalismo.com/Archivo-01/sad_day.htm
A link for those interested.
