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Location: Beauharnois, Québec
Location: Beauharnois, Québec
May 11th, 2005, 10:23 AM
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This is as good a reason than any other the nuclear power has given us.
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So under the guise of self determination, he was forced to have nukes?
See, you got it right there. Fidel wasnt a mad man, he was defending his country right to self determination.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 11th, 2005, 11:10 AM
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Why does the US have Nukes? You have your answer.
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So under the guise of self determination, he was forced to have nukes?
See, you got it right there. Fidel wasnt a mad man, he was defending his country right to self determination.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,320
Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg
May 12th, 2005, 10:48 AM
Cuba would not have survived as an independent state without those things, Jay. It would be in about the same position as Haiti right now instead.
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He needed access to the markets of the USSR. He needed staples like wheat and rice. He needed gasoline. He needed small arms.
I'm saying that if Castro was all for self determanation, why was he "forced" to have USSR nukes?
Cuba would not have survived as an independent state without those things, Jay. It would be in about the same position as Haiti right now instead.
Running out of ranks
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May 12th, 2005, 11:12 AM
I simply do not bother making excuses for Castro. He could have had it all, he chose instead to have nothing, and he has caused crap in South America and In Africa, because he believes in the Comintern.
Cuba isn't a pissy little island with nothing on it. After nationalizing the US oil refineries, and reserves, he did have things he needed. He also nationalized the land, and in the documentary I watched it said the first piece of land to go was his mothers, and she never forgave him for it. He has created instability where there was none.
All he has to do to start normalization is to have elections, and have them regularly. Why is he scared of elections?
I simply do not bother making excuses for Castro. He could have had it all, he chose instead to have nothing, and he has caused crap in South America and In Africa, because he believes in the Comintern.
Cuba isn't a pissy little island with nothing on it. After nationalizing the US oil refineries, and reserves, he did have things he needed. He also nationalized the land, and in the documentary I watched it said the first piece of land to go was his mothers, and she never forgave him for it. He has created instability where there was none.
All he has to do to start normalization is to have elections, and have them regularly. Why is he scared of elections?
Super Genius
Posts: 1,320
Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg
May 12th, 2005, 02:16 PM
You make excuses against Castro, Jay.
When Batista was in charge he (as a puppet of the USA) turned the island into a combination slave labour camp/gambling den/*****house for rich Americans. The cuban people have done far better under Castro.
You make excuses against Castro, Jay.
When Batista was in charge he (as a puppet of the USA) turned the island into a combination slave labour camp/gambling den/*****house for rich Americans. The cuban people have done far better under Castro.
Running out of ranks
Posts: 8,366
May 12th, 2005, 02:22 PM
"You make excuses against Castro, Jay."
They are valid.
To be clear I'm not supporting Batista. And as I said before, Castro had the right idea...but it all went down hill. He made his bed.
He will be dead soon though, and I expect real change to occur after that.
"You make excuses against Castro, Jay."
They are valid.
To be clear I'm not supporting Batista. And as I said before, Castro had the right idea...but it all went down hill. He made his bed.
He will be dead soon though, and I expect real change to occur after that.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 5,380
Location: Kamloops BC
Location: Kamloops BC
May 15th, 2005, 10:14 PM
The US is starting to pay attention
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/16/po...rtner=homepage
The US is starting to pay attention
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/16/po...rtner=homepage
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Location: The Evil Empire
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May 16th, 2005, 09:52 AM
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Nice link mrmom, you have to register. Selling NY TImes subscriptions now are we? Hmmmmm? :P
The US is starting to pay attention
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/16/po...rtner=homepage
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/16/po...rtner=homepage
