Paris shooting: Live updates

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Paris shooting: Live updates

What we know now:

About a dozen shots were heard on the Champs-Élysées, a main shopping area in Paris.
1 police officer has been killed. The shooter is also dead.
A French official said police officers were "deliberately targeted."
Prosecutors are looking at terror as a possible motive in this attack.

Paris shooter fired automatic weapon at police

The assailant in the Paris shooting “got out of the vehicle and shot at the police vehicle with an automatic weapon, killing one policeman instantly,” French Ministry of Interior Spokesman Pierre-Henry Brandet told BFMTV, a CNN affiliate network in France.

The man “then ran away, managing to shoot and wound two other policemen. Other policemen engaged and shot and killed the attacker,” Brandet said.

The attack started around 9 p.m. local time in Paris, when a vehicle stopped next to a police vehicle stationed on the side of the road. Policemen were both inside and outside the vehicle. The shooter got out of his car and started firing at police, Brandet said on BFMTV.

The Interior Ministry said police are looking for potential accomplices.

Brandet said there are no police operations elsewhere in Paris outside of the Champs-Elysées.

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People see these attacks in which organizations like ISIS claim responsibility for these cowardly attacks...

Are Canadians wrong for wanting tighter immigration control for our country?

Is Trudeaus government so stupid that they need to do a study to figure out why people are Islamophobic?

Actually yes they are because he needed to travel the country to learn how to connect with regular Canadians...

Its like look what religion and the state equal out too. The recent Jakarta elections where conservative Muslims used blasphemy laws to ruin a non muslim running for office
 

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Almost everyone who has never been in a conflict or disaster, never been shot at or bombed, etc. doesn't understand. When they are warned of the likely consequences of getting involved, the messenger is accused of not caring, being racist or being a hater.

It is unfortunate, but true. As has happened many times before, Europeans are re-learning the lesson.
 

Johnnny

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Almost everyone who has never been in a conflict or disaster, never been shot at or bombed, etc. doesn't understand. When they are warned of the likely consequences of getting involved, the messenger is accused of not caring, being racist or being a hater.

It is unfortunate, but true. As has happened many times before, Europeans are re-learning the lesson.

Al-jazzera seems to think the Muslims will swing the French Election vote...

Just like in the Netherlands.
 

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There is a sizable population of Muslims, but they have to be citizens and the husbands have to let their wives vote in many circumstances. Odd situation there.
 

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There is a sizable population of Muslims, but they have to be citizens and the husbands have to let their wives vote in many circumstances. Odd situation there.

No, no .... by their actions not by their vote ...
 

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Thats why they say that democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried.

If the European governments were responding to the democratic will of the electorate they would stop all these migrants from coming into Europe, and expel most of those there now. Just as if the Canadian government gave a damn what the Canadian electorate thought or wanted they'd institute values screening for potential immigrants and refugees.
 

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If the European governments were responding to the democratic will of the electorate they would stop all these migrants from coming into Europe, and expel most of those there now. Just as if the Canadian government gave a damn what the Canadian electorate thought or wanted they'd institute values screening for potential immigrants and refugees.

I blame the welfare state mentality these countries have.... The bottom line is more tax payers
 

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If the European governments were responding to the democratic will of the electorate they would stop all these migrants from coming into Europe, and expel most of those there now. Just as if the Canadian government gave a damn what the Canadian electorate thought or wanted they'd institute values screening for potential immigrants and refugees.
For values of the Canadian electorate = Vbeacher.
 

Vbeacher

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For values of the Canadian electorate = Vbeacher.

Yeah, pretty much. But we have had a couple of polls, by left wing organizations, both of which showed enormous support among Canadians for values screening. So this is clearly the will of the people.

Canada is one major incident away from demanding better screening. If we get an incident like happened in Paris, with a semi being driven over scores of people, Trudeau's resistance to the idea will collapse Liberal support.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Yeah, pretty much. But we have had a couple of polls, by left wing organizations, both of which showed enormous support among Canadians for values screening. So this is clearly the will of the people.
So, you think the job of Parliament and the PM is to do whatever the latest poll says?
 

Vbeacher

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So, you think the job of Parliament and the PM is to do whatever the latest poll says?

So you think democracy works best where the government ignores the will of the people? How's it working in Europe? You have socialist governments which have consistently sneered at demands to do something about migrations and that's given rise to far right parties across Europe. You have the same thing in the US, where governments ignored the population's resentment over illegal immigration, and they wound up turning to the only guy who said he'd do something about it.

To quote Frum again If liberals say only fascists will protect the borders then the public will hire fascists to protect the borders.

Australia's Conservatives are obviously aware of this.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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So you think democracy works best where the government ignores the will of the people? How's it working in Europe? You have socialist governments which have consistently sneered at demands to do something about migrations and that's given rise to far right parties across Europe. You have the same thing in the US, where governments ignored the population's resentment over illegal immigration, and they wound up turning to the only guy who said he'd do something about it.

To quote Frum again If liberals say only fascists will protect the borders then the public will hire fascists to protect the borders.
Coulda just said "Yes."
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You coulda just said you don't believe in democracy and the people should shut up and do as they're told.
Poor cupcake.

Let's pretend if the polls were saying something you don't like, you'd be standing foursquare for the duty of the government to do what's right, not what's popular, mmm-kay?