Bill C-6 gives terrorists Can. Citizenship


Jinentonix
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Oh, wow! I never heard that one before. Did you make that up yourself? I hope so. I've ways wanted to someone's muse.

Gosh, you mean like your Fox News insult? Yeah, that's real original. Anything else you'd like to hypocritically whine about while you're at it?
 
Corduroy
+1
#32
Quote: Originally Posted by JinentonixView Post

Oh what a load of apologist crap. Then why are they deporting people en masse who's parents lied on their entry documents as kids? AND, they're being deported sans hearings. Well, except a certain Liberal cabinet minister who not only won't be deported, but will get to keep her nice, cushy, Trudeau appointed position.

What Trudeau is in effect saying, and rather hypocritically I might add, is that having parents who lied on your entry document is a far more egregious assault on our values than being a terrorist, and there is absolutely no other way to interpret it without trying to spin the sh*t out of it.

I don't know how anything I said is being a apologist for Justin Trudeau. I didn't mention his policies, let alone defend the, Maybe you meant to comment on someone else.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

EERemoving someone that came here illegally or specifically to perform terrorist activities in Canada is hardly discriminating. It is unfortunate for us that we can't deport criminals that were born here. But syou being a lefty you naturally care more for criminals than honest Canadian citizens.

Me being a lefty I am distrustful of state power. I do not worship the state and I believe that checks should be in place to prevent the state from depriving citizens of rights. If the state declares a person a criminal, I do not fall of my face in praise of the state. I do not join the angry mob that takes state proclamations as gospel and demand medieval justice.

Me being a lefty.
 
Johnnny
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by CorduroyView Post

I don't know how anything I said is being a apologist for Justin Trudeau. I didn't mention his policies, let alone defend the, Maybe you meant to comment on someone else.



Me being a lefty I am distrustful of state power. I do not worship the state and I believe that checks should be in place to prevent the state from depriving citizens of rights. If the state declares a person a criminal, I do not fall of my face in praise of the state. I do not join the angry mob that takes state proclamations as gospel and demand medieval justice.

Me being a lefty.

This is a very good reply
 
personal touch
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

He's in full agreement with the USA, the worlds most murderous terrorist nation ever.



I hate loath and detest the Anglo Zionist Empire and I love peace and freedom. That's the total of my crimes against the ruling gang of western monsters.

I think you should talk to someone with these strong emotions,it's not right
 
spilledthebeer
#35
Some of you are wandering pretty far from the original issue-the one in discussion when I came in was where Our idiot Boy Justin was quick to dispose of or otherwise legally harass some people-mostly white and often born to Cdn parents living on NATO military bases around the world and who didn't get their papers sorted when parents came home -after all being a service person USUALLY MEANT you WERE CDN!

Too bad Our idiot Boy does not like military people and is hostile to British subjects as well and likes poking at them! Its why our defense spending is now at record lows! Justin wants us defenseless just as his father did! The Trudopes want to destroy what father PIerre called Cdn Imperialism. And LIE-berals figure if you are stupid enough to volunteer, then you are stupid enough not to notice or understand the LIE-beral contempt directed at you.

And its funny how quickly our govt will deport white people generally to Brazil or Portugal-people who have come here on visitor visas and stayed to work without paying taxes but our govt wont bother with other ethnics who came here as immigrants and committed crimes! LIE-berals give those types many extra chances and lots of excuses to stay-and let immigration courts drag on for years till the candidate realizes deportation is surely coming and simply finds a way to disappear into the crowd!

And of course Our idiot Boy just loves those economic refugees who crash our borders and demand our charity-they are always such slavish supporters of LIE-berals at election time!

In short-we see ugly LIE-beral bias in favour of charity for those who support LIE-berals and one way tickets out of here for those who are white or otherwise POLITICALLY unsuitable!

LIE-beral immigration is designed to bring in and cater to people who idiot Justin thinks will do two things-first they will slavishly vote LIE-beral and second they will support anti white, anti NATO, anti Yankee and anti Israel policies-just as father Pierre had hoped for!

To make matters worse, LIE-beral hug a thug judges have decreed that strangers who show up at our borders after having destroyed all their papers in-flight should have the same rights as Cdn citizens-and this is in violation of the values of over 75 percent of Cdns-most of us BELIEVE that there should be serious security checks put on new comers-yet LIE-berals brought in 37,000 Muslims last year-based on security checks run by Red Crescent Muslim aid group operating under the supervision of terror group HAMAS! And ain't it odd that LIE-berals also RESTORED funding to terror group Hamas?

The final issues-and NO LIE-beral wants to respond is this: What benefit came to Canada when LIE-beral Jean Chretien INVITED Italy to release terror bomber Khadr and let him immigrate to Canada? And what benefit is there ror Canada in letting the CONVICTED terrorist leader of Toronto 189 STAY here-instead of firing him back to where he came from?

If you invited somebody into your house and they pissed on your rug you would throw them out......so why then wont LIE-berals act to dispose of people who piss on our country?

Quote: Originally Posted by CorduroyView Post

I don't know how anything I said is being a apologist for Justin Trudeau. I didn't mention his policies, let alone defend the, Maybe you meant to comment on someone else.



Me being a lefty I am distrustful of state power. I do not worship the state and I believe that checks should be in place to prevent the state from depriving citizens of rights. If the state declares a person a criminal, I do not fall of my face in praise of the state. I do not join the angry mob that takes state proclamations as gospel and demand medieval justice.

Me being a lefty.

 
Corduroy
#36
Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnnyView Post

This is a very good reply

I got the best replies. Believe me.
 
darkbeaver
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by personal touchView Post

I think you should talk to someone with these strong emotions,it's not right

They would punch me if I talked to them with strong emotions.
 
spilledthebeer
#38
Here is a suggestion: that we do more as the Swiss do with immigrants. The Swiss do grant long term residency visas to certain classes of people who Swiss feel will aid their economy. You can get a visa and live and work there but will not be allowed to vote-so you cannot poison their traditional neutrality with your imported racial/military/political baggage.

And of course if you piss on their rug, they WILL throw you out! We throw out people who behave badly in our homes-why not do the same to people behaving badly in our country? Or are LIE-berals too obsessed with BUYING votes? Looks like the answer is YES- LIE-berals will screw us all for a few more days in power!

I think we should do something like the Swiss -why should you be allowed to blunder across the Manitoba border-wipe the icicles off your nose-spend time on welfare and soak up English as a second language classes and maybe get some free schooling in some trade and then get to air your imported political rage and religious superiority on Cdn stage-playing to a pack of shameless LIE-berals who will sell us out for VOTES!

Look at the catalogue of born elsewhere LIE-berals insulting us: Hedy Fry from some Carribbean island-who rose to imfamy shrieking in parliament "there are crosses (Meaning Ku Klux Klan) burning in Prince George as we speak"! And in |Prince George where there were NO crosses except on churches-they shrugged her off as a RUDE kook.

Or Italian born Alphonse Galeano-the guy at the heart of the three billion dollar adscam theft. Three billion dollars gone-what more to say there?

Or Maryam Monseff-the Iranian born liar who told us she was from Afghanistan because Afghans were more politically correct than Iranians and she had her 15 minutes of fame shrieking insults at our parliament because Cdns wanted a referendum BEFORE letting LIE-berals ram through their electoral reform vote rigging scam? She insults us because she thinks her Iranian version of democracy is superior to ours!

Or Iqra Khalid-the Muslim who thinks we are all bigots and racists simply because we wont automatically buy in to her pro Muslim view that dictates that we should not worry about terrorists-even as our cops halt various planned attacks with the aid of Yankee FBI! She sees us as worry warts being silly about the cost of letting in masses of Muslims- after all -how can the Cnd Caliphate be established if there are not enough Muslims here? And how come we seem to need FBI to find the Via rail train attackers and why is it FBI that alerted us to that guy who blew himself up in a taxi west of Toronto. Should we assume LIE-berals are ham-stringing OUR security people and putting us at risk for political reasons

Or our current federal LIE-beral immigration minister from Ethiopia who is busy re-writing our immigration laws so we have LESS control over who comes into Canada.

Or the non entity from someplace I have forgotten-the guy who is Ontari-owe Minster of Citizenship under LIE-beral Wynne-bag and who is quite happy to appear on tax funded TVO/The Agenda and tell us that Ontari-owe must be purged of its huge racist value system that is poisoning the lives of so many new comers. The guy is getting a couple hundred grand a year in salary and perks out of OUR POCKETS and still thinks we are all raging bigots?

If we are so awful and so hateful then how did all these people get in the country in the first place?

And is it right to simply call us bigots when our major objection is grossly costly and self serving Lie-beral policy rather than concern over the colour of the skin of the goofs who are killing us with taxes, mad spending and commercials that insult us?

This is NOT about race-its about being bankrupt and under terrorist threats while people from other places tell us to suck it up!


Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

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Bill C-6, which proposes changes to the Citizenship Act does a number of troubling things:

- removes the right to revoke citizenships from dual nationals convicted terrorists;

- ends the obligation for new citizens 14-18 and 55-65 to know either English or French or even pass a citizenship test;

- reduces the number of days someone must spend in Canada before they are eligible for citizenship;

- eliminates the obligation that a new citizen will have to “intend” to reside in Canada.

Canada is a generous country. We allow new citizens, under most conditions, to retain the passport of their birth. These individuals become fully eligible for all the benefits from our generous social safety net that Canadians have worked so hard over generations to provide.

These benefits include but are not limited to our universal health care system, Old Age Security, Guaranteed Income Supplement, as well as access to our education system.

Canadians ask that their new neighbours learn one of the official languages, have some knowledge of Canada and our geography, and have a clear understanding of their rights as Canadians as well as their responsibility to our country as per the oath they swear.

Bill C-6 alters radically these terms and conditions, shifting and disturbing in revolutionary ways the "contract" that has so successfully managed the expectations and understandings between new arrivals and existing citizens.

The government's own statistics confirm that 300,000 individuals over 10 years will be exempt having to learn one of the two official languages, that is if the government rejects the minor amendment passed by the senate last week. This will make integration into English Canada or French Quebec harder while promoting ghettoization.

I am most concerned about the radical liberal view that once a dual national is granted citizenship, Canada should not revoke it, especially if the individual is convicted of a serious terrorist offence.

The current law allows for the revocation of citizenship if someone lies or commits a war crime. But if an individual is convicted for terrorism, they will be able to keep Canadian passport and all the benefits that go with it.

It is ironic that the government supports the view that if you lied to get into Canada, you can lose your citizenship, but if you are a dual national Canadian who is convicted for a serious terrorism offence, you cannot have your citizenship revoked.

The terrorist threat in Canada is real. Of the 218 counter-terrorism targets under investigation by CSIS today, approximately 60 are either dual nationals or permanent residents (not yet citizens). Approximately 180 individuals with a nexus to Canada are engaged in terrorist activity abroad and an additional 60 have returned and are on our streets.

That is why I will be introducing an amendment to strengthen our citizenship laws by allowing a sentencing judge to be able to, at his or her discretion, revoke the citizenship of someone convicted of a serious terrorism crime.

This amendment will remove political discretion and leave revocation to the sentencing judge. The individual will have the right to appeal; however, my amendment will preserve the principle that citizenship is a privilege, not a right.

Putting Canada first is not a partisan issue. It is about what type of country we wish to have and what values we wish to remain intact. 86% of Canadians support revocation of citizenship for terrorism.

Join me in urging all senators to get on Canada’s team by ensuring we can revoke the citizenship of convicted terrorists, like 34 other countries presently do.

Daniel Lang serves as the Chair of the National Security ..

 
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