RCC says " no f-cking way" in any of their 120 Canadian facilities.
Good for them. There is no shortage of nondenominational bridges to jump off of.
Good for them. There is no shortage of nondenominational bridges to jump off of.
Dr Assisted Suicide and RCC Healthcare
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I think that's fine; they should be willing to work outside the medicare system, and direct bill the patients anyway.
Agreed. A church-owned hospital isn't obligated to provide services that conflict with the church's dogma.
No? The 120 facilities they own are owned by? Gumboot the beer god?:roll:
Closing ERs and hospitals is genius, pure genius.
Petros, if you want to discuss this we can, but ifn' your game is to play the pigeon on a chess board, I'm not interested.
Ya, even if it's against the law. Religion is the law, in some places, like ISIS Caliphate.
Ya, it's technicality we have here in Canada. No fukking private hospitals, especially human rights denying ones.
the Catholic hospitals in BC are governed by Providence Health care and they are a non-profit organization, providing services in partnership with the Vancouver Coastal Health and the Provincial Health Services Authority.
Their accountability is to the public they serve.
PROVIDENCE HEALTH CARE OPERATIONS
Per their website:
Our organization operates under an agreement between the Province of British Columbia and the Denominational Health Association. The agreement recognizes the rights of owners of denominational care facilities to own, manage and operate their respective facilities and carry out their respective religious missions. It obligates the owners to meet provincial standards and national accreditation for health care, meet the conditions of any agreements with teaching facilities and plan and deliver health care services in collaboration with other health bodies.
Providence Health Care have stated regarding doctor assisted death that:
that while the organization currently forbids the practice, it will monitor and conform to the law as it takes shape. Providence operates 10 facilities, including St. Paul's, the only hospital in Vancouver's West End.
My understanding is that since they are funded by the gov't of Canada, they must abide by the rules of the land regardless of what their religious convictions. Just like any other religion must abide by the rules of the land in which it resides.
A doctor does not have to provide the services, but the hospital itself can not prevent another non RCC doctor from being involved. Not all employees at those particular hospitals are of that religious persuasion and the hospital is not allowed to discriminate against any other faith or lack of faith.
All hospitals in Canada are public non profit institutions.
And we are so fortunate because of that.
Look, there is an obvious reason they said no way in their 120 Canadian healthcare facilities because they own and operate them. There is no game Missy. Just fact.
A retired Calgary psychologist in the final stages of ALS is believed to be the first person in Canada outside of Quebec to be allowed to legally end her life with help from a doctor.
Alberta Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sheila Martin granted the application in a written decision released on Tuesday after hearing arguments at an in-camera hearing last Thursday.
The woman at the heart of the Calgary case is called Ms. S. in order to protect her privacy. She is in constant pain, almost completely paralyzed and has been told the disease will kill her within about six months.
"I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking," wrote Ms. S. in one of her two affidavits. "I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
The judge found Ms. S. had met her burden as she is a competent adult with a "grievous and irremediable medical condition" that causes intolerable suffering that can't be alleviated and who clearly consents to the termination of life.
Under Canada's current law, it is still a crime to assist another person in ending their life but two recent decisions at the Supreme Court allow exemptions if certain criteria are met.
In January, the country's highest court granted the constitutional exemption to those who make an application in superior court and are found to have met the criteria until new legislation is crafted in June.
"This is the first application of its kind in this province and no applications from other Canadian jurisdictions have been brought to my attention," Martin writes.
Quebec's provincial assisted dying law came into effect on Dec. 10, 2015. A Quebec City woman who died with the assistance of a doctor became the first known case in January, followed by at least 10 others in that province.
'I would like to pass away peacefully'
A retired clinical psychologist, Ms. S. worked in the health-care system in Calgary for 38 years. She was an avid hiker and an award-winning dancer.
Diagnosed with ALS — a degenerative neurological disease — in April 2013, she is now in its final stages.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," wrote Ms. S. in one of two affidavits. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon."
Though she is mentally alert, she is almost completely paralyzed, only able to move her left hand slightly. That movement provides her only means to communicate but is quickly slipping away.
"She is in significant pain and requires constant care and support," reads Martin's decision. "She has lost the ability to pursue the independent life she so valued."
Ms. S. wakes several times through the night with bouts of choking on her own saliva.
The rest...
Physician-assisted suicide granted to Calgary woman in Canadian 1st outside Quebec - Calgary - CBC News
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Missy...
Alberta Court of Queen's Bench Justice Sheila Martin granted the application in a written decision released on Tuesday after hearing arguments at an in-camera hearing last Thursday.
The woman at the heart of the Calgary case is called Ms. S. in order to protect her privacy. She is in constant pain, almost completely paralyzed and has been told the disease will kill her within about six months.
"I do not wish to have continued suffering and to die of this illness by choking," wrote Ms. S. in one of her two affidavits. "I feel that my time has come to go in peace."
The judge found Ms. S. had met her burden as she is a competent adult with a "grievous and irremediable medical condition" that causes intolerable suffering that can't be alleviated and who clearly consents to the termination of life.
Under Canada's current law, it is still a crime to assist another person in ending their life but two recent decisions at the Supreme Court allow exemptions if certain criteria are met.
In January, the country's highest court granted the constitutional exemption to those who make an application in superior court and are found to have met the criteria until new legislation is crafted in June.
"This is the first application of its kind in this province and no applications from other Canadian jurisdictions have been brought to my attention," Martin writes.
Quebec's provincial assisted dying law came into effect on Dec. 10, 2015. A Quebec City woman who died with the assistance of a doctor became the first known case in January, followed by at least 10 others in that province.
'I would like to pass away peacefully'
A retired clinical psychologist, Ms. S. worked in the health-care system in Calgary for 38 years. She was an avid hiker and an award-winning dancer.
Diagnosed with ALS — a degenerative neurological disease — in April 2013, she is now in its final stages.
"I am not suffering from anxiety or depression or fear of death," wrote Ms. S. in one of two affidavits. "I would like to pass away peacefully and am hoping to have physician-assisted death soon."
Though she is mentally alert, she is almost completely paralyzed, only able to move her left hand slightly. That movement provides her only means to communicate but is quickly slipping away.
"She is in significant pain and requires constant care and support," reads Martin's decision. "She has lost the ability to pursue the independent life she so valued."
Ms. S. wakes several times through the night with bouts of choking on her own saliva.
The rest...
Physician-assisted suicide granted to Calgary woman in Canadian 1st outside Quebec - Calgary - CBC News
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Missy...
Not sure about that. 90% of the hospitals in Japan are privately owned, and they provide high-quality service at reasonable prices (Japan has a mandatory insurance scheme and price regulation).
Who owns 'em?
Damn rights because the law says they don't have to just like they won't have to do assisted suicides.
The Right to choose can't be thumped.
Ottawa
Bruyère Continuing Care, Ottawa’s biggest palliative care hospital, says it will not offer doctor-assisted death to eligible patients, limiting options in the city as the practice becomes legal across Canada.
Because the Catholic hospital is effectively the city’s centre of excellence in palliative care, Bruyère is likely to become a local pressure point for the way doctor assisted death translates from law to practice in Canada. The federal government is expected to have a law in place by early June.
Bruyère is one of 21 publicly funded Catholic health institutions in Ontario, including St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, Pembroke Regional Hospital, nursing homes and others administered by the Catholic Health Sponsors of Ontario.
The religious health authority says doctor-assisted death is incompatible with its values. The organization says provincial law allows its organizations to refuse doctor assisted death.
But Dying With Dignity Canada, which has fought for physician assisted dying, says it is not acceptable for entire organizations to conscientiously object to it.
“We believe that all publicly funded institutions, including Catholic hospitals, hospices and health authorities need to respect Canadians’ charter rights for assisted death if the person meets the eligibility criteria,” said Shanaaz Gokool, chief executive officer of Dying With Dignity Canada. “We see this to be one of the most critical issues around access. And for some people, it may be where the rubber hits the road.”
Because the Catholic hospital is effectively the city’s centre of excellence in palliative care, Bruyère is likely to become a local pressure point for the way doctor assisted death translates from law to practice in Canada. The federal government is expected to have a law in place by early June.
Bruyère is one of 21 publicly funded Catholic health institutions in Ontario, including St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, Pembroke Regional Hospital, nursing homes and others administered by the Catholic Health Sponsors of Ontario.
The religious health authority says doctor-assisted death is incompatible with its values. The organization says provincial law allows its organizations to refuse doctor assisted death.
But Dying With Dignity Canada, which has fought for physician assisted dying, says it is not acceptable for entire organizations to conscientiously object to it.
“We believe that all publicly funded institutions, including Catholic hospitals, hospices and health authorities need to respect Canadians’ charter rights for assisted death if the person meets the eligibility criteria,” said Shanaaz Gokool, chief executive officer of Dying With Dignity Canada. “We see this to be one of the most critical issues around access. And for some people, it may be where the rubber hits the road.”
Catholic hospital, the biggest palliative care centre in Ottawa, says it won’t offer doctor-assisted death
The Right to choose can't be thumped.
Ottawa
Bruyère Continuing Care, Ottawa’s biggest palliative care hospital, says it will not offer doctor-assisted death to eligible patients, limiting options in the city as the practice becomes legal across Canada.
Because the Catholic hospital is effectively the city’s centre of excellence in palliative care, Bruyère is likely to become a local pressure point for the way doctor assisted death translates from law to practice in Canada. The federal government is expected to have a law in place by early June.
Bruyère is one of 21 publicly funded Catholic health institutions in Ontario, including St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, Pembroke Regional Hospital, nursing homes and others administered by the Catholic Health Sponsors of Ontario.
The religious health authority says doctor-assisted death is incompatible with its values. The organization says provincial law allows its organizations to refuse doctor assisted death.
But Dying With Dignity Canada, which has fought for physician assisted dying, says it is not acceptable for entire organizations to conscientiously object to it.
“We believe that all publicly funded institutions, including Catholic hospitals, hospices and health authorities need to respect Canadians’ charter rights for assisted death if the person meets the eligibility criteria,” said Shanaaz Gokool, chief executive officer of Dying With Dignity Canada. “We see this to be one of the most critical issues around access. And for some people, it may be where the rubber hits the road.”
Because the Catholic hospital is effectively the city’s centre of excellence in palliative care, Bruyère is likely to become a local pressure point for the way doctor assisted death translates from law to practice in Canada. The federal government is expected to have a law in place by early June.
Bruyère is one of 21 publicly funded Catholic health institutions in Ontario, including St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto, Pembroke Regional Hospital, nursing homes and others administered by the Catholic Health Sponsors of Ontario.
The religious health authority says doctor-assisted death is incompatible with its values. The organization says provincial law allows its organizations to refuse doctor assisted death.
But Dying With Dignity Canada, which has fought for physician assisted dying, says it is not acceptable for entire organizations to conscientiously object to it.
“We believe that all publicly funded institutions, including Catholic hospitals, hospices and health authorities need to respect Canadians’ charter rights for assisted death if the person meets the eligibility criteria,” said Shanaaz Gokool, chief executive officer of Dying With Dignity Canada. “We see this to be one of the most critical issues around access. And for some people, it may be where the rubber hits the road.”
Catholic hospital, the biggest palliative care centre in Ottawa, says it won’t offer doctor-assisted death
Why fight the wishes of those who want to die.
I understand that we need to protect the weakest in our society but really, is there anyway to avoid death. Won't we all need to face it.
Why not on our own terms.j
I understand that we need to protect the weakest in our society but really, is there anyway to avoid death. Won't we all need to face it.
Why not on our own terms.j
