Christian homeschoolers in Texas accused of not educating kids due to ‘rapture’

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The Texas Supreme Court is hearing the case of a family accused of failing to educate their children because they were waiting for the second coming of Jesus. The family says the government is violating their constitutional rights.
Michael and Laura McIntyre were asked by the El Paso school district to submit proof that their children were being properly educated after Michael’s twin brother said he never saw any of the children studying. Tracy McIntyre claimed he heard one of the children say they were “going to be raptured.”

The family sued, saying the school district is biased against Christians and that its officials are engaged in a “startling assertion of sweeping governmental power.”

aura McIntyre says that the Christian curriculum she used at home was the same as the one taught at the private El Paso religious school her children had attended until 2004. She added that her brother-in-law is a biased witness due to a separate legal dispute between the twins over a motorcycle dealership they used to own together, reported El Paso’s KGRV-TV.

“No parents have ever prevailed in any reported case on a theory that they have an absolute constitutional right to educate their children in the home,” 8th Court of Appeals Chief Justice Ann Crawford McClure wrote in her decision last year, ruling in favor of the school district. The family pressed on and had their case heard by the Texas Supreme Court on Monday.
he case is attracting national attention because homeschooling is on the rise in both Texas and the US overall. By 2012, three percent of all US students, some 1.7 million children, were being educated at home, according to the National Center for Educational Statistics. Texans accounted for more than one in six of that number – around 300,000 – the Texas Home School Coalition estimated.

Expect the rapidly expanding homeschooling movement to play a significant role in the revolutionary reforms needed to build a free society with constitutional protections,” Ron Paul, former Republican congressman from Texas, said in his farewell speech in 2012. Paul announced his own school curriculum covering students through the fifth grade in April 2013. It is available to parents as a free service.

Many parts of the US have no laws or requirements holding home-schooling parents accountable, says Rachel Coleman, executive director of the Massachusetts-based Coalition for Responsible Home Education. Her organization champions laws that would give government oversight and guidance authority, arguing this would protect students from child abuse and homeschool neglect.

“Part of the problem is, on the political right they’ll remove oversight to score points with their base and there isn’t a strong enough opposition to that on the other side,” said Coleman. “This happens especially in states where their legislatures are more conservative.”
While Texas mandates a written curriculum for a basic education in reading, spelling, grammar, math and citizenship, it does not require standardized tests or other proofs of progress, which makes the mandate unenforceable, says Coleman. Texas is among 11 states that do not require home-schooling families to register, while 14 states have no subject requirements for what is taught at home.

In what was widely seen as an endorsement of homeschooling, Republican Governor Greg Abbott appointed Donna Bahorich as chair of the Texas Board of Education in June. Critics objected to Bahorich’s lack of experience with the public school system, since she homeschooled her three sons before sending them to private schools.

https://www.rt.com/usa/320564-texas-homeschool-religion-trial/
 

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I suppose it should be up to parents if they want their kids to be ignorant. However, if that is what they choose and the kids do not become worthwhile to the society they live in, the parents should house them and feed them and clothe them for life and might as well not allow their kids out into the rest of the world..
Some folks seem to like some of the stuff society provides but do not want to compensate society for that. It is weird.
 

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I suppose it should be up to parents if they want their kids to be ignorant. However, if that is what they choose and the kids do not become worthwhile to the society they live in, the parents should house them and feed them and clothe them for life and might as well not allow their kids out into the rest of the world..
Some folks seem to like some of the stuff society provides but do not want to compensate society for that. It is weird.

I know a family who also believe the same thing. They've educated their children but they spend every $ because they believe the world is going to end in their life time.

Can't fathom that sort of thought process myself...
 

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I might die tomorrow, so why should I do anything till then? lol It would probably come true as I would die of boredom.
 

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It is a soap opera type drama, Glacier. hehe At least a miniseries.
 

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The Texas Supreme Court is hearing the case of a family accused of failing to educate their children because they were waiting for the second coming of Jesus. The family says the government is violating their constitutional rights.
Michael and Laura McIntyre were asked by the El Paso school district to submit proof that their children were being properly educated after Michael’s twin brother said he never saw any of the children studying. Tracy McIntyre claimed he heard one of the children say they were “going to be raptured.”

The family sued, saying the school district is biased against Christians and that its officials are engaged in a “startling assertion of sweeping governmental power.”

aura McIntyre says that the Christian curriculum she used at home was the same as the one taught at the private El Paso religious school her children had attended until 2004. She added that her brother-in-law is a biased witness due to a separate legal dispute between the twins over a motorcycle dealership they used to own together, reported El Paso’s KGRV-TV.

“No parents have ever prevailed in any reported case on a theory that they have an absolute constitutional right to educate their children in the home,” 8th Court of Appeals Chief Justice Ann Crawford McClure wrote in her decision last year, ruling in favor of the school district. The family pressed on and had their case heard by the Texas Supreme Court on Monday.
he case is attracting national attention because homeschooling is on the rise in both Texas and the US overall. By 2012, three percent of all US students, some 1.7 million children, were being educated at home, according to the National Center for Educational Statistics. Texans accounted for more than one in six of that number – around 300,000 – the Texas Home School Coalition estimated.

Expect the rapidly expanding homeschooling movement to play a significant role in the revolutionary reforms needed to build a free society with constitutional protections,” Ron Paul, former Republican congressman from Texas, said in his farewell speech in 2012. Paul announced his own school curriculum covering students through the fifth grade in April 2013. It is available to parents as a free service.

Many parts of the US have no laws or requirements holding home-schooling parents accountable, says Rachel Coleman, executive director of the Massachusetts-based Coalition for Responsible Home Education. Her organization champions laws that would give government oversight and guidance authority, arguing this would protect students from child abuse and homeschool neglect.

“Part of the problem is, on the political right they’ll remove oversight to score points with their base and there isn’t a strong enough opposition to that on the other side,” said Coleman. “This happens especially in states where their legislatures are more conservative.”
While Texas mandates a written curriculum for a basic education in reading, spelling, grammar, math and citizenship, it does not require standardized tests or other proofs of progress, which makes the mandate unenforceable, says Coleman. Texas is among 11 states that do not require home-schooling families to register, while 14 states have no subject requirements for what is taught at home.

In what was widely seen as an endorsement of homeschooling, Republican Governor Greg Abbott appointed Donna Bahorich as chair of the Texas Board of Education in June. Critics objected to Bahorich’s lack of experience with the public school system, since she homeschooled her three sons before sending them to private schools.

https://www.rt.com/usa/320564-texas-homeschool-religion-trial/

Well that explains a lot.

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I suppose it should be up to parents if they want their kids to be ignorant. However, if that is what they choose and the kids do not become worthwhile to the society they live in, the parents should house them and feed them and clothe them for life and might as well not allow their kids out into the rest of the world..
Some folks seem to like some of the stuff society provides but do not want to compensate society for that. It is weird.

School is about so much more then learning your A,B,Cs. It is also about learning how to function in society. In addition, it gives children the opportunity to meet and interact with those of other cultures and societies. Isolating young minds from the reality of the outside world could very well lead to dire consequences down the road. At the least it could produce dysfunctional young adults.
 

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Millions and millions of math-challenged evangelical Christians are SURE that the Rapture include them and only them.
 

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Here in Alberta, many Mennonites force their kids to leave school after grade nine.
By which time they've probably gotten a better education than most kids get in twelve years.

I thought the rapture happened on May 21st, 2011.
It did. All the true Christians were taken up to be with Jesus.

There were just so few of them that nobody noticed.
 

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By which time they've probably gotten a better education than most kids get in twelve years.
No. The province made a deal with them to get them into the public schools. Parts of that was that they get so many hours a day of German. Most of the parents only school their kids because they are required to by law. I'm sure they would pull them out after grade three if they could. Its improving though. The kids that are born and raised here are definitely more "Canadianized" and want to see their kids get an education.


These are Mexican Mennonites I'm talking about. They are farm labourers so they're kinda at
Petros' level
 

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School is about so much more then learning your A,B,Cs. It is also about learning how to function in society. In addition, it gives children the opportunity to meet and interact with those of other cultures and societies. Isolating young minds from the reality of the outside world could very well lead to dire consequences down the road. At the least it could produce dysfunctional young adults.
I agree if parents completely isolate their kids. I doubt if more than a few do that, though. As long as gov't education remains a function mainly for the slower learning kids, I can see home-schooling, if possible, to be considered by parents. But, it looks as if TX does not pay much attention to see if home-schooled kids are taught anything at all. As a parent who did educate her kids at home mainly, I kept tabs on whether we were at least keeping up with the same ed that other kids were. As it turns out, our kids exceeded the education in schools here and I found out afterwards, that is a relatively common phenomenon around BC.