A Utah town's solution to homelessness

Cliffy

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Everyone, meet the housing-first model, a delightfully simple solution to homelessness.


"Instead of asking people to change their lives before we gave them housing, we chose to give them housing along with the supportive services and then allow them to change their lives if the wanted to."
— Gordon Walker
Director, Housing and Community Development in Salt Lake City



http://www.upworthy.com/a-utah-town...t-they-werent-first?g=2&c=upw1&fb_ref=Default
 

Cliffy

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Vagrants.. toss them in Jail.. then they have a free meal, shower, shave.. possible clean up enough to go find a job.
That is beyond moronic. How do you find a job while in jail? You can't get put in jail without being charged with a criminal offense. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a job once you have been incarcerated?
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Everyone, meet the housing-first model, a delightfully simple solution to homelessness.


"Instead of asking people to change their lives before we gave them housing, we chose to give them housing along with the supportive services and then allow them to change their lives if the wanted to."
— Gordon Walker
Director, Housing and Community Development in Salt Lake City



A Utah town's solution to homelessness is so good, every state will be mad that they weren't first.
Damn those Mormons!

So this model is humanitarian and saves taxpayer money. No wonder Boomster hates it.
 

B00Mer

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That is beyond moronic. How do you find a job while in jail? You can't get put in jail without being charged with a criminal offense. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a job once you have been incarcerated?

In Canada. :canada:

179. Vagrancy

179. (1) Every one commits vagrancy who

(a) supports himself in whole or in part by gaming or crime and has no lawful profession or calling by which to maintain himself; or

(b) having at any time been convicted of an offence under section 151, 152 or 153, subsection 160(3) or 173(2) or section 271, 272 or 273, or of an offence under a provision referred to in paragraph (b) of the definition “serious personal injury offence” in section 687 of the Criminal Code, chapter C-34 of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1970, as it read before January 4, 1983, is found loitering in or near a school ground, playground, public park or bathing area.

Punishment

(2) Every one who commits vagrancy is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 179; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 22, c. 19 (3rd Supp.), s. 8.

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In some states in the USA, you get 1 night in jail.. free stay at the crowbar motel. You're not longer a vagrant.
 

MHz

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Vagrants.. toss them in Jail.. then they have a free meal, shower, shave.. possible clean up enough to go find a job.

Miami used to have a law, if you don't have at least $1 in your pocket, you're a vagrant and off to jail.
"Used to' being the operative word, 3d printers messed that up. Get a fake one for $1.23 +Tax.

In Canada. :canada:

179. Vagrancy

179. (1) Every one commits vagrancy who

(a) supports himself in whole or in part by gaming or crime and has no lawful profession or calling by which to maintain himself; or

(b) having at any time been convicted of an offence under section 151, 152 or 153, subsection 160(3) or 173(2) or section 271, 272 or 273, or of an offence under a provision referred to in paragraph (b) of the definition “serious personal injury offence” in section 687 of the Criminal Code, chapter C-34 of the Revised Statutes of Canada, 1970, as it read before January 4, 1983, is found loitering in or near a school ground, playground, public park or bathing area.

Punishment

(2) Every one who commits vagrancy is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 179; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 22, c. 19 (3rd Supp.), s. 8.

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In some states in the USA, you get 1 night in jail.. free stay at the crowbar motel. You're not longer a vagrant.
Really, so what State would you like to wake up in without a dollar to your name? Bus and knockout drops would be donated by your neighbors I'm quite sure.
 

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Everyone, meet the housing-first model, a delightfully simple solution to homelessness.


"Instead of asking people to change their lives before we gave them housing, we chose to give them housing along with the supportive services and then allow them to change their lives if the wanted to."
— Gordon Walker
Director, Housing and Community Development in Salt Lake City



A Utah town's solution to homelessness is so good, every state will be mad that they weren't first.




This certainly is a good start. I suggest that further steps can be taken by the tax exempt churches using some of their free money to build homes for the poor - because of existing laws which give these institutions breaks on fuel oil, water, and property taxes, the rents will be very low and affordable. This will greatly reduced homelessness. One example of this is the Marcus Garvey Homes in the East New York - Brownsville section of Brooklyn. The new homes beautified the ghetto, made it much safer, and turned burned out buildings into comfy, affordable homes for the poor. Everybody wins with this type of progressive policy.
 

gore0bsessed

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was boomers story about living homeless in l.a a lie ? doesn't seem to have much compassion for people in similar situations.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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This certainly is a good start. I suggest that further steps can be taken by the tax exempt churches using some of their free money to build homes for the poor - because of existing laws which give these institutions breaks on fuel oil, water, and property taxes, the rents will be very low and affordable. This will greatly reduced homelessness. One example of this is the Marcus Garvey Homes in the East New York - Brownsville section of Brooklyn. The new homes beautified the ghetto, made it much safer, and turned burned out buildings into comfy, affordable homes for the poor. Everybody wins with this type of progressive policy.
And, if you do it in a state with a "religious freedom restoration act" you can discriminate! Which is, of course, what Jesus commanded.
 

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This certainly is a good start. I suggest that further steps can be taken by the tax exempt churches using some of their free money to build homes for the poor - because of existing laws which give these institutions breaks on fuel oil, water, and property taxes, the rents will be very low and affordable. This will greatly reduced homelessness. One example of this is the Marcus Garvey Homes in the East New York - Brownsville section of Brooklyn. The new homes beautified the ghetto, made it much safer, and turned burned out buildings into comfy, affordable homes for the poor. Everybody wins with this type of progressive policy.
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