88% agree with Harper on niqab

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No kidding .I wonder how much that poll cost and who paid for it ?
 

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The Poll was paid for by Global News.

It's pretty obvious Harper has his pulse on the interests of Canadians.

I think Pretty Boy gets more points by keeping his yap shut. Whenever he says anything, he's almost always on the wrong side of most Canadians.
 

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This was in the news some time ago, and people agreed faces should b shown. Makes sense.

Then Harpo has to grandstand .

Looks like the fuktard he is.
 

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Yes Harper is grandstanding but at the same time he is right and something
should be done to ensure the law is followed. I don't agree with Harper but
I do agree with him on this one
 

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The whole issue started with someone not wanting to show their face for the Citizenship Swearing Photo.


Of course they should show their face for that or a passport or any other legit requirement.


Beyond that, I feel it is a form of oppression but then again I have heard some of these women say they just like it. That sounds odd to me and could be a case of indoctrination so embedded they are convinced they have to wear it.


Hopefully their daughters don't bother with it...........
 

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The whole issue started with someone not wanting to show their face for the Citizenship Swearing Photo.


Of course they should show their face for that or a passport or any other legit requirement.


Beyond that, I feel it is a form of oppression but then again I have heard some of these women say they just like it. That sounds odd to me and could be a case of indoctrination so embedded they are convinced they have to wear it.


Hopefully their daughters don't bother with it...........
or be killed for not bothering with it

Shouldn't be allowed to wear a tent in the bank either. What they wear at home, who cares.
yes funnily enough, they don't wear them at home
 

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Which "they" and why?

"They" (the ones wearing the niqab) have strong chance of winning because your Supreme Court set a precedence several years ago permitting Sikh students to wear a kirpan to school despite it violating the criminal code of Canada. The Supreme Court in effect granted more rights to a group of Canadians based strictly on religious belief.
 

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"They" (the ones wearing the niqab) have strong chance of winning because your Supreme Court set a precedence several years ago permitting Sikh students to wear a kirpan to school despite it violating the criminal code of Canada. The Supreme Court in effect granted more rights to a group of Canadians based strictly on religious belief.

Ah okay. Yes, I agree actually, given the reasoning behind the Federal Courts decision, that will likely be the way the SCC will go as well. Although my personal opinion is that taking the oath of citizenship is an important and solemn enough occasion that it should over ride the religious or self-expression freedom aspect of wearing of a face veil, court decisions and personal opinions often don't mesh. In the end it doesn't really matter even if 100% agree in a poll, they only thing that matters is the law and the courts interpretation of it.
 

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"They" (the ones wearing the niqab) have strong chance of winning because your Supreme Court set a precedence several years ago permitting Sikh students to wear a kirpan to school despite it violating the criminal code of Canada. The Supreme Court in effect granted more rights to a group of Canadians based strictly on religious belief.

Kirpans, religious symbol or not, are still prohibited in many places.

The ruling on the niquab is not to determine if it is allowable in society at large, only in select circumstances like taking an oath (and likely extrapolated to things like passports and driver's licenses)
 

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And banks. I get nervous in the bank when I see both people in suits and people with their faces hidden. You just know that some poor person is about to be screwed.
 

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"They" (the ones wearing the niqab) have strong chance of winning because your Supreme Court set a precedence several years ago permitting Sikh students to wear a kirpan to school despite it violating the criminal code of Canada. The Supreme Court in effect granted more rights to a group of Canadians based strictly on religious belief.



The niqab is NOT a religious requirement of Islam as laid out by the Quran. The Kirpan IS a religious requirement as laid out by the Sikh holy laws. I will grant, however, that the SCC will bow down to the brainless lefts groveling and allow this.
 

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Here is what Tarek Fatah has to say about the niqab:

In Khaled Hosseini’s soul-piercing novel A Thousand Splendid Suns, the character Nana, a poor, unwed mother, tells her five-year-old daughter, Mariam: “Learn this now and learn it well, my daughter: Like a compass needle that points north, a man’s accusing finger always finds a woman. Always. You remember that, Mariam.”

Hosseini’s best-selling novel was about life in Afghanistan, but in the 30 words above he sums up the way men govern the lives of women across much of the Muslim world.

Like Mariam, millions of Muslim girls are told very early in life by their mothers that their place in society is one of submission; submission not to God, but to man.

Hosseini’s 2007 book remained at number one on the New York Times bestseller list for four months.

In its first week on the market, it sold over one million copies.

But if there is someone who seems not to have read the novel, it’s Liberal leader Justin Trudeau.

Trudeau’s recent championing of the niqab as a basic human right has aided Islamism in Canada and undermined millions of liberal Muslims around the world.

This includes the women in my own family, not to mention my late mother, who threw away the niqab in 1946.

The controversy began with the case of Zunera Ishaq, a Pakistani immigrant who wanted to take her Canadian citizenship oath with her face covered.

On being told she could not do so, she went to court and won the right not to remove her veil, while taking the oath.

Ottawa has appealed this lower court decision with Prime Minister Stephen Harper mounting a vigorous attack on the niqab.

He told the House of Commons:

“This is a society that is transparent, open and where people are equal, and I think we find that (not uncovering one’s face while taking the oath of citizenship) offensive.”

A few days later, he told the Commons, “Why would Canadians, contrary to our own values, embrace a practice at that time that is not transparent, that is not open and, frankly, is rooted in a culture that is anti-women?”

Harper emphasized many moderate Muslims agreed with the government’s position of banning the niqab from citizenship courts.

For his part, Trudeau tried to portray Harper as racist, equating Muslim women not being permitted to wear face masks in citizenship court to the plight of Jews who fled Nazi Germany, but were not allowed to enter Canada.

Trudeau could not have been more wrong.

While the Jews on board the St. Louis were not permitted to land in Canada, and went back to near certain death, the Muslim immigrant, Zunera Ishaq, was welcomed to Canada after leaving the Islamic State of Pakistan.

Leaving her specific case aside, what is it about this piece of cloth that triggers so much self-righteous angst among so many followers of Islam?

How could the covering of a woman’s head or face — which is not a requirement of the Qur’an — end up as the most defining symbol of Islam?

And what is the rationale behind the obsession with the niqab among the world’s Islamists?

The fact is, the niqab and, I would argue, the hijab, are today not just medieval symbols of female servitude; they also serve as flags of Islamism, dictated by the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab world and its equivalent in South Asia, the Jamat-e-Islami.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/17/th ... f-islamism


The niqab is the flag of Islamism​ | Fatah | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun
 

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If their not happy why the £uck don't they go back to where they came from?
 
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