Legalized euthanasia- Good or Bad?

[JLM]

I've been mulling this over a lot and have come to the conclusion that there are up and down sides to it, but I don't agree that it's necessarily something to be ecstatic about. I see upsides, one it's going to eliminate a lot of suffering and two it's going to free up funds to treat treatable patients. On the downside, sooner of later there are going to be untimely deaths because of it. As we know from the news, mistakes are made in hospitals every day. Any other opinions?

 

[Cliffy]

Line 'em up. Thousands die by the hands of their doctors every year. What's a few more?

 

[lone wolf]

As long as they stick with the to-be-deceased's wishes and someone else doesn't get to make the decision

 

[JLM]

As long as they stick with the to-be-deceased's wishes and someone else doesn't get to make the decision

That works good until they reach the state of diminished mental capacity and who is to judge when they cross that line?

 

[petros]

It might be better to wait and suffer a little longer.

I'm pretty excited about trials treating MS with stem cells. It can get pretty nasty at times. If lucky I've got another 25 years and pondered what to do if it got out of hand. Would I want my plug pulled?

 

[JLM]

Line 'em up. Thousands die by the hands of their doctors every year. What's a few more?

That a boy, Cliffy, we can always depend on you to find a bright side!

 

[eh1eh]

No need to give people more rights. [roll eyes]
Let the do gooders and church people control your life. [roll eyes harder]
Those dummies wouldn't let us purchase products on
Sunday not 20 years ago.
They are now trying to deny us another human right, which
does not effect them at all, to satisfy their religious beliefs.
Fuk them. Give me freedom of choice.

 

[petros]

Which church?

 

[Cliffy]

That works good until they reach the state of diminished mental capacity and who is to judge when they cross that line?

That is what a living will is for If people don't have the fore sight to put one together, well, Darwin. If reading a lot of the posters on here is any representation of the general public, there are plenty of people with diminished mental capacity already.

 

[eh1eh]

Which church?

Whichever church influenced the 'Sunday Closing Law' in Ontario.
It made for an awkward time trying to do anything on Sunday, like build a deck.
Sunday being a holy day for religious people that controlled the laws
at one time.
Fortunately Ontario realized it was actually a secular government and
allowed the purchase of items on Sunday.
Would you allow another 'church' to tell you that you could not purchase
products on, lets say, Friday?
Hmmm? Would you?

 

[petros]

There are stores that aren't open Fridays or Saturday and they don't have churches.

 

[eh1eh]

There are stores that aren't open Fridays or Saturday and they don't have churches.

Indeed.
Those store do so of their own free will not an onerous arbitrary law.
The fact that they can do that reinforces my point.
It's called freedom from oppression.

 

[petros]

It's their religious law.

 

[Cliffy]

Many Seventh Day Adventurers don't open on Saturday but it doesn't affect anybody else.

 

[eh1eh]

That works good until they reach the state of diminished mental capacity and who is to judge when they cross that line?

I think the ruling states the decision can only be made by a competent individual
for themselves.
Meaning, you can not make the decision for someone else.

It's their religious law.

So it should apply to everyone. All stores should close because of their 'religious law'?

 

[petros]

What about feral people?

 

[Cliffy]

I think the ruling states the decision can only be made by a competent individual
for themselves.
Meaning, you can not make the decision for someone else.

But some doctors do that in extreme cases where suffering becomes to much to bare. They just up the morphine drip until they pass. I see no harm in that, so why not make it legal.

 

[petros]

I think the ruling states the decision can only be made by a competent individual
for themselves.
Meaning, you can not make the decision for someone else.



So it should apply to everyone. All stores should close because of their 'religious law'?

It was a labour law not a church law.

 

[eh1eh]

But some doctors do that in extreme cases where suffering becomes to much to bare. They just up the morphine drip until they pass. I see no harm in that, so why not make it legal.

Humane behavior tends to prevail.

It was a labour law not a church law.

It was a religious edict couched in a labour law.

 

[Cliffy]

What about feral people?

You are the only person I have ever heard use that expression. You make that decision for them and we'll see how far you get.