JTF2 Snipers Killing ISIS

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NORMAND LESTER | QMI AGENCY
The feds deny Canadian commandos are engaged in ground operations against the Islamic State (ISIS) in Iraq.
A source close to the operations had told QMI Agency that members of the elite JTF2 (Joint Task Force 2) unit, armed with high-powered rifles, are involved in operations aimed at killing Islamist fighters far from the front lines.
The Canadians are officially in Iraq to accompany and train Kurdish and Iraqi snipers.
On Monday, the defence department said the troops are staying within that mandate and denied Canadians are "directly engaged in sniper activity against Islamic State."
"CANSOFCOM's role in Iraq is to provide training, military advice and assistance teams," Maj.-Gen. Michael Hood, director of the Strategic Joint Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces, said in a statement.
"Members in Iraq are working within a well-defined mission that was passed in the House of Commons. We have been clear that this mission does not involve ground troops in a combat role."
Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced in October that Canadian CF-18s would assist in airstrikes against ISIS and a small number of elite troops would help advise Iraqi and Kurdish forces, but Parliament didn't approve of Canadians engaging in the fight on the ground.
"CANSOFCOM is helping to provide Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) with military training such as shooting, movement, communications, and mission planning, as well as how to effectively employ their various weapons systems," Hood said in a release.
"The support provided to the people of Iraq by the Canadian Armed Forces demonstrates Canada's resolve to stand with our allies and make positive contributions to international security."
Neither Hood nor others contacted would say which special forces unit is in Iraq. JTF2 is one of five squads listed on CANSOFCOM's web page.
JTF2 "operators," as they prefer to be called, use a Macmillan TAC-50 rifle nicknamed "Big Mac."
It's the longest-range weapon available to snipers, with a range of 2.3 km.
The Big Mac has been standard issue for elite Canadian snipers since 2000.
QMI was unable to confirm if Canada provided TAC-50s to Iraqi and Kurdish snipers.
JTF2 previously waged a lengthy secret operation in Afghanistan. The Canadians were integrated into American and British special forces units.
Using their TAC-50s, two Canadian snipers set world records in March 2002 in Afghanistan's Shah-i-Kot valley. The Canadians killed enemy combatants at ranges of 2,310 and 2,426 metres.
The secret team of five JTF2 commandos killed more than 20 Taliban fighters at similar distances, earning Bronze Star Medals from the United States military.
In 2004, the JTF2 unit received the Presidential Unit Citation from then-president George W. Bush.


Sun News : Feds deny Canadian snipers fighting ISIS in Iraq

Anybody that believes the best snipers on earth went to Iraq to teach Kurds how to line up rifle sights is not dealing with reality.

This is, btw, excellent news.

Kill them all.
 

waldo

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Anybody that believes the best snipers on earth went to Iraq to teach Kurds how to line up rifle sights is not dealing with reality.

say it ain't so Colpy... surely you're not saying Harper Conservatives/Defense Dept are full of shyte!
 

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Taking out targets nearly 2500 metres away? Yeah, if they are there as trainers that would be surprising. That isnt exactly something you can learn how to do overnight.
 

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It probably WOULD be the last thing a man would do. Imagine being fired through a ½-inch bore then flying over 2km, punching into something and living to tell about the adventure. ;-)
 

#juan

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What a stupid fu ck ing thread. Glorification of long distance murder. It's the last thing a man should do.

Oh, there are other things they could do but shooting the enemy with a high powered rifle from 2 km away is safer than most other methods and almost nobody gets hit that you didn't intend to hit. (no collateral damage) Another thing is that usually nobody knows where it came from. Nobody expects a shot from a mile and a half away.
 

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Oh, there are other things they could do but shooting the enemy with a high powered rifle from 2 km away is safer than most other methods and almost nobody gets hit that you didn't intend to hit. (no collateral damage) Another thing is that usually nobody knows where it came from. Nobody expects a shot from a mile and a half away.

Yeah I know how clean and efficient it is. Makes no difference to me. The act never impressed me as masculine or honorable. That's my opinion on the matter.
 

#juan

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Yeah I know how clean and efficient it is. Makes no difference to me. The act never impressed me as masculine or honorable. That's my opinion on the matter.

What is more masculine? Charging up the hill in full view of enemy machine gunners? That is just foolish.
 

darkbeaver

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What is more masculine? Charging up the hill in full view of enemy machine gunners? That is just foolish.

It's manly yer with yer comrads, yer splattered with their brains and guts and blood and sh it. What a way to go. Valhalla, you don't get there hiding in the bush.
 

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It's manly yer with yer comrads, yer splattered with their brains and guts and blood and sh it. What a way to go. Valhalla, you don't get there hiding in the bush.

It impacts morale of a unit when soldiers are sniped.
Highly effective.
Does it matter it you are taken out by an artillery shell, a bomb from above, a bullet up close or at a distance. Dead is dead.