Amanda Todd stood up to stalker

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Amanda Todd stood up to stalker in Facebook conversation

Amanda Todd challenged her online stalker in a conversation she had with the Dutch man alleged to have extorted her online, a Facebook security report obtained by CBC's the fifth estate shows.

In one conversation with Todd, a 15-year-old B.C. girl who later committed suicide, the stalker identified online as Tyler Boo writes: "U already forgot who I am? The guy who last year made you change school.

"Give me 3 shows and I will disappear forever. you know I won't stop until you give me those 3 shows."

"Not gonna happen," Todd responds. "Do you wanna meet me? Come me me right now. Or are you too scared?"

Working with the Dutch TV program Zembla, CBC's the fifth estate obtained information from a Facebook report on Todd's alleged stalker that identifies at least four extensive online conversations that took place between the suspect and the B.C. teen.

Earlier this year, B.C. RCMP announced charges against Aydin Coban, a 35-year-old Dutch citizen, in connection with the online sexual extortion of Todd.

In October 2012, the teen from Port Coquitlam committed suicide after posting a video on YouTube saying she had been blackmailed by an online predator after exposing her breasts using a webcam.

In the aftermath of her suicide, Facebook began an investigation of an unidentified person who used different online platforms, including Facebook, to "solicit nude videos and images of minors," as well as to convince young girls to "appear naked during web camera chat sessions."

Target since 2011

Todd was one of those young girls. The Facebook report identifies messages as far back as 2011 that show she was a target of the suspect.

But it also states that based on Todd's age and her claim that the abuse started when she was 11 years old, the suspect may have been tormenting young girls since 2008.

The report outlines one of the four conversations, reproduced below, which took place on Oct. 21, 2011, about a year before Todd took her own life.

The transcript below includes symbols that are commonly used in online conversation. Among those symbols, :p is a tongue sticking out, often meant in a flirty, mischievous or teasing context; xD is "Smiling hard or laughing" and :3 is a "Cat face or "kitty," — based on faces made by Anime characters when they say something cute, clever or sarcastic.

TYLER BOO: sup cam*****, been a while :p

i didnt send the video the last time because i liked how you whined,but as you know i have your new school, new schoolmates new flash your parents havent seen etc etc blahblah you know the drill.

so 3 shows of 15 minutes and then i wont send :3

AMANDA: Oh yeah what are some names;)


TYLER BOO: lol, u already forgot who i am? the guy who last year made you change school. got your door kicked in with cops in the morning :p

and also on youtube like 6 months ago whatever, scared you a bit :p

you promised the authorities not to do be sexual on cam again because you are underage and it is considered producing of child porn….well, you have. so i can send them that and make them come to you again, send your new school and friends and family again.

you will go through the exact same thing all over.

or you can give me 3 shows and i will disappear forever. you know i wont stop until you give me those 3 shows. if u go to a new school, new bf, new friends, new whatever, i will be there again :p

i am crazy yes xD

so your answer :3

Todd had tried ignoring her stalker, but that did not stop the blackmailing. The teen's response to Tyler Boo in the Facebook chat logs shows she defiantly stood up to her online stalker.

AMANDA: do u wanna meet me ? come meet me right now.

TYLER BOO: are u drunk? xD

AMANDA: NOPE. im sober, or are u to scared f--king pedo

TYLER: year scared of u and flying 3 hours.

AMANDA: ur scared of airplanes eh ?

TYLER BOO: so about them 3 shows :3

AMANDA: not gonna happen prick. so far how many people have inboxed u about this eh ?of my friends

TYLER BOO: 4 and i hope more do so i can send them the link to the video directly, faster instead of going to their pages xD

AMANDA: LOL NAMES OF THE PEOPLE PLEASE

TYLER BOO: it should be a surprise for u. can you tell more them to inbox me. a lot of them i cant message without adding as friend so would no be able to send them :p

AMANDA: ah nope :p u trying to scare and piss me off cus ur just wasteing ur f--king time and the cops are tracking ur computer where ur sending from, boy your stupid why do u think im messageing u, there is a big crowd of people watching me type behind me

TYLER BOO: u still think ur dealing with an amateur after the last time? xD

im still here :p

AMANDA: LOL IDC go for it :d

The fifth estate's Mark Kelley showed Todd's mother, Carol Todd, a transcript of the conversation her daughter had with her stalker who went by the name Tyler Boo.

"He was very persistent when you look at the kinds of conversation," Carol Todd told Kelley. "And here's Amanda, she's goading him."

"It probably made him angrier that she was finally sticking up. She was not going to do any more pictures or she wasn't going to do anything for this guy."

In November 2011, after being sextorted by her stalker for an extended length of time, Todd posted a Facebook status update revealing her feelings about the ongoing online abuse against her.

Posted 2011-11-12 19:29:53 UTC

Status I'm so sorry, everyone who got the links from austin collins. When I was 11 years old I got a message saying 'I have all your information, I will come find you if you don't flash and do this for me' so I was scared, I said, 'one time okay' so I did it. And he said if I didn't do it again he would send to all port coquitlam. I wasn't going to do it again, so then he sent it to everyone in port coquitlam. Teachers, friends family. On christmas. So I moved, I thought new start for my messup would be good, then he followed me.. He stalked and found out my new school and friends and now you guys all got the link. Judge me, or be there for me. Wichever you guys want.. But right now I feel like ****, I feel so sad and sick.. That he's gonna do this for the rest of my life and there's nothing I can do. He made you all think he's a young boy in his teens that is going to westview when he's over 30+, he's tyler boo.. He's a sick pedofile. The best thing I can say now is, don't send it, block him, don't click it.. I really don't know what to do anymore.

Todd took her life almost a year after this Facebook post, on Oct. 10, 2012.

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Scum like this guy should have their IP addresses tracked, identified and dragged out on the street for a collective beating to death at the hands of their victims, finished with their bloodied corpses strung up for the crows.
 
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Twila

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The radio just reported that this cyber bully had up to 90 alias on line and stalked 75 other people around the world.

They may have to make a new type of registry for cyber bullies. This guy deserves to be advertised worldwide for the monster that he is. he does not deserve to be anonymous.
 

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Totally agree that "convicted" cyber bullies should be treated like ticks, removed and slowly squeeeezed until they pop. However, there should be damn few cudos for parents that do not watch their children's online antics with some worry at age 11. That mother (where is father?) is blaming only the cyber bully, not herself.
 

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I'm sure her mother is living each and every day with regrets and thoughts on what she could have done differently and given the nature of the internet and the azzhats who like to type out horrible things to complete strangers I'm sure she's been subjected to all kinds of ridicule and abuse.
 

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Amanda Todd ‘sextortion’ case: Crown begins closing argument in trial for Dutch man accused of harassment
Aydin Coban pleaded not guilty at the jury trial in New Westminster to charges of extortion, harassment, communication with a young person to commit a sexual offence and possessing child pornography

Author of the article:Brenna Owen, The Canadian Press
Brenna Owen, The Canadian Press
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NEW WESTMINSTER — B.C. teen Amanda Todd said on Facebook that a “pedophile” had been blackmailing her for years, as she warned people about an account she said the perpetrator operated, a Crown attorney told B.C. Supreme Court.


In closing arguments at the trial of Dutchman Aydin Coban, Kristen LeNoble told the jury that Todd made the post shortly before receiving a message from another Facebook-user demanding she perform sexual “shows” on-camera, or videos of her exposing her breasts would be sent to her family and classmates.

The teenager from Port Coquitlam had recently moved in with her father in a nearby community and started attending a new school, LeNoble said.

Coban has pleaded not guilty to extortion, harassment, communication with a young person to commit a sexual offence and possessing child pornography.

LeNoble began closing arguments Tuesday by telling the jurors the Crown would spend the next few days helping them “unpack” the significant amount of evidence, including testimony from more than 30 witnesses and binders full of 80 exhibits.


By the time they were finished, she said, the Crown would have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Coban was the person behind 22 separate online aliases used to extort Todd over several years before she died almost a decade ago. Some of the messages feigned support and tried to build a trusting relationship with Todd, while others threatened to ruin her life, LeNoble told the jury.

LeNoble showed the jury a message the harasser sent to Todd’s family and school administrators while posing as a member of a child protection agency, which included a link to a porn website displaying a video of the teen. She described how another alias on Facebook was used to send messages with the same link to 99 users from Todd’s friends list on the social networking site.


The harassment began just before Todd turned 13 in November 2009, she said.

“Enough nice-guy act,” said LeNoble, reading from one of the messages where the harasser threatened to publicly distribute a video of Todd exposing her breasts.

“You’re gonna do as you are told? I already have 17 people in your family, 52 schoolmates and teachers of your school through their official site. I can send them this instant, together with child protection agencies, who will go after you,” she read.

“Your life will never be the same. Or you do as I say, and after 10 shows, where you do as I say, I disappear, like nothing happened,” read the message that LeNoble called a “real sledgehammer of a harassing, extorting and luring message.”


Crown prosecutor Louise Kenworthy told the jury at the start of the trial almost two months ago that Todd had been the victim of a persistent campaign of online “sextortion” over three years before her death at age 15 in October 2012.

Carol Todd testified that her daughter was scared when she brought messages to her attention, and Amanda’s distress increased with each incident.

LeNoble showed the jury a message Amanda had sent to her cousin and other people she knew after the video of her exposing her breasts had been distributed. In the message, Amanda said she had “flashed” about “200 guys” on YouTube the year before because they were “begging” and she “thought it wouldn’t matter.”

The message shows the teen then wrote she had “wrecked” her life with that video because of the harassment and extortion that followed.