Finally a decent sentence

Goober

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8O........Givem a million, billion, years eh.
That'll show'em.

Person(s) convicted of multiple murders, including most manslaughter cases, should never be released.
For a Govt that is so called tough on crime they cannot get their respective shxt together.
Drunk drivers causing death, no one has ever received the max for 2 or more murders.
 

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That was quick! Freaking Magnotta is still on trial.

The crown closed its case so I suspect it wont be long for him.

Max 25 years per murder, consecutive. Law was changed around 2011 or so for multiple murders.

Even if he had gotten just the 25 I doubt he ever would have gotten out. Its 25 years til a person is eligible for parole, not 25 and out. I doubt any parole board would let someone like him out.
 

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The crown closed its case so I suspect it wont be long for him.



Even if he had gotten just the 25 I doubt he ever would have gotten out. Its 25 years til a person is eligible for parole, not 25 and out. I doubt any parole board would let someone like him out.

I agree but ya never know what a Parole board will do.
 

Nuggler

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I agree but ya never know what a Parole board will do.

So we are agreed: no million, billion, year sentences!!

Quite a shame, cuz there be perps who deserve them.
Ottawa Valley, there's a guy who raped and killed a girl
Used a Buck knife on her v a g i n a
Has served in excess of 25 years
But now gets out on unescorted passes.
She's still dead.
He should be.
wonderful world.
 

shadowshiv

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Olsen & Picton didn't kill cops, so concurrent instead of consecutive sentences.



They were also tried before the new sentencing structure went into effect. If anyone murders more than one person then they can get 25 years for every person they killed, regardless if they are a police officer or not. It used to be that it didn't matter how many people you killed, it would be 25 years before parole eligibility. Thankfully they got rid of that...hopefully they got rid of the Faint Hope clause as well.

Person(s) convicted of multiple murders, including most manslaughter cases, should never be released.
For a Govt that is so called tough on crime they cannot get their respective shxt together.
Drunk drivers causing death, no one has ever received the max for 2 or more murders.



Piece of crap drunk driver killed four elderly women here in Chatham a few years back. Was given a sentence that was either 4 years or less. Seems fair for murdering (I don't care what they call it, killing someone while driving intoxicated IS murder) four people, don't you think?
 

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Justin Bourque gets 75 years with no chance of parole for Mountie murders



No more of these short life sentences....

Both Olson and Picton got twenty five years sentences. I think Olson served 30 years before he died and Picton is still in jail.


That should keep Bourque out of mischief for awhile, Pickton will serve whatever time he lives. Why do they have such a problem with this? "Life" as it stands means they are in the system for life, but not necessarily in jail. "Life in prison" would be simple for everyone to understand. The equivalent in the U.S. is "99 years".
 

shadowshiv

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That should keep Bourque out of mischief for awhile, Pickton will serve whatever time he lives. Why do they have such a problem with this? "Life" as it stands means they are in the system for life, but not necessarily in jail. "Life in prison" would be simple for everyone to understand. The equivalent in the U.S. is "99 years".



Considering how he is 24 years old right now, and add 75 years to that, and if he happens to live that long in prison (he'll probably find out that he isn't as tough as he thinks he is), he'd be 99 years old before he's eligible for parole. I think the only mischief he'll be getting in will be with Bubba and mishaps when he drops the soap.
 

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In England and Wales, most people over 21 found guilty of murder get sentenced to at least 30 years, with a lot of them sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in prison with no chance of parole (England and Wales has more prisoners who will never be released and will die in prison than every other place in Europe put together).

In some cases, though, some people are sentenced to a minimum of 25 years (unless you're a woman, in which case you'll just break out the crocodile tears and get let off with five).

An 82-year-old man in Britain has just been sentenced to a minimum of 25 years for the murder of his lover and her daughter. It means he'll be at least 107 before he's eligible for parole.


Dog breeder John Lowe told police officers he wanted the women put down

BBC News - John Lowe gets life term for Farnham puppy farm murders
 

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They were also tried before the new sentencing structure went into effect. If anyone murders more than one person then they can get 25 years for every person they killed, regardless if they are a police officer or not. It used to be that it didn't matter how many people you killed, it would be 25 years before parole eligibility. Thankfully they got rid of that...hopefully they got rid of the Faint Hope clause as well.





Piece of crap drunk driver killed four elderly women here in Chatham a few years back. Was given a sentence that was either 4 years or less. Seems fair for murdering (I don't care what they call it, killing someone while driving intoxicated IS murder) four people, don't you think?
There's actually a pretty good legal argument to support your statement. One of the criteria for murder, the malice requirement, can be met by a person acting "with the indifference to human life of a depraved heart." The usual example is firing into a crowd. Generally it is not murder because you did not intend to kill a specific person. But that law elevates it to murder with the "depraved-heart indifference" rule.

I think a very good argument could be made that somebody who gets liquored up and then gets behind the wheel is acting with the indifference to human life of a depraved heart.
 

Nuggler

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In England and Wales, most people over 21 found guilty of murder get sentenced to at least 30 years, with a lot of them sentenced to spend the rest of their lives in prison with no chance of parole (England and Wales has more prisoners who will never be released and will die in prison than every other place in Europe put together).

In some cases, though, some people are sentenced to a minimum of 25 years (unless you're a woman, in which case you'll just break out the crocodile tears and get let off with five).

An 82-year-old man in Britain has just been sentenced to a minimum of 25 years for the murder of his lover and her daughter. It means he'll be at least 107 before he's eligible for parole.


Dog breeder John Lowe told police officers he wanted the women put down

BBC News - John Lowe gets life term for Farnham puppy farm murders

By his own admission, he's a dog ****er. That would be good for 25 in my books.
 

shadowshiv

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There's actually a pretty good legal argument to support your statement. One of the criteria for murder, the malice requirement, can be met by a person acting "with the indifference to human life of a depraved heart." The usual example is firing into a crowd. Generally it is not murder because you did not intend to kill a specific person. But that law elevates it to murder with the "depraved-heart indifference" rule.

I think a very good argument could be made that somebody who gets liquored up and then gets behind the wheel is acting with the indifference to human life of a depraved heart.



Unfortunately, our justice system is extremely liberal right now, and the rights of the suspects usually supercedes the rights of the victims (and their loved ones).
 

JLM

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Unfortunately, our justice system is extremely liberal right now, and the rights of the suspects usually supercedes the rights of the victims (and their loved ones).


Figure this one out. A week ago two employees at the local hospital were on their way to Tim Hortons to pick up coffee for them and their co workers. A reported impaired driver ran a red light T-boning the car and killing one of them instantly. To date no charges have been laid. It was a 37 year old woman who should have known better.