Vaping...any thoughts?


Sal
#1
I have no opinion one way or the other on this...anyone have strong feelings about it and if so, why?



Red Deer city council has banned the use of electronic cigarettes in public venues and that annoys some users of the new product.
"It's absolutely ridiculous. They're completely not cigarettes, says Takara Grant.
The 20-year-old says she smoked two to three packs of cigarettes a day before she discovered "vaping, which is what many users call the practice



She says Red Deer council is behind the times.


Unlike tobacco which contains noxious chemicals e-cigarettes produce a vapour that is composed mostly of water and nicotine.
Jeff Wingert, a newcomer to the world of vaping says he can understand councils' move to restrict their use.
"People may be uncomfortable seeing someone vaporizing in public in a restaurant or in front of children so I can understand why it happened, says Wingert.


I see the other side, too, where people should be able to enjoy something that doesn't harm others.


Natasha Ford, who works at Vapor Hub in Red Deer, says business is good despite the restrictions imposed by Red Deer council.


She says customers use e-cigarettes to quit tobacco but most want to cut out nicotine entirely.


"The ultimate goal is to go from whatever you start out at, to zero grams of nicotine, said Ford.


Health Canada, however, advises Canadians not to "vape" because their safety has not been proven.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#2
I strongly feel that this is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE of the 21st century!
 
SLM
+3
#3
I think most people react the way they do because it looks like a cigarette therefore they react the way they do to cigarettes. Without really knowing anything about it. That's what I think anyway.
 
Sal
#4
I'd never heard of it..."vaping" almost makes me want to try one.
 
petros
#5
Safe but you can't fix stupid.

BTW they were key for me quitting smoking tobacco and now with a little chem make smoking medicinals safer.
 
SLM
+1
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I'd never heard of it..."vaping" almost makes me want to try one.

HowStuffWorks "10 Little-known Facts About E-cigarettes" (external - login to view)
 
Spade
+2
#7
The principal parts of the verb "to vape".

vape, vaping, vaped, vapid
 
Sal
+2
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

HowStuffWorks "10 Little-known Facts About E-cigarettes" (external - login to view)

Quote:

E-cigarettes were first developed in China and were introduced to the U.S. market in 2007. Many are similar enough in appearance to be mistaken for regular tobacco cigarettes. But one look inside and you'll see the main difference: This is a tobacco-free product. E-cigs are actually vaporizers; instead of burning tobacco, the mechanism heats up a liquid. The liquid turns into vapor, which is then inhaled, or "vaped." While some argue that vapor offers health advantages over traditional cigarette smoke, regulatory agencies and some health experts aren't so sure that's true. Before you consider taking up the e-cigarette habit, read on to get the facts.

so they really don't know yet if they are safe or not...interesting that they were developed in China...thanks...

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

The principal parts of the verb "to vape".

vape, vaping, vaped, vapid

that made me lol...
 
SLM
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

so they really don't know yet if they are safe or not...interesting that they were developed in China...thanks...

Well I think it's fairly safe to say they are no worse than actual cigarettes (and they don't contain tar, so actually better really), so for a smoker to use them as part of a quit can't be a bad thing. Or if not part of a quit, then maybe use them as a 'cheat' during a quit. You know, satisfy that craving (at least in part) of a cigarette without falling off the wagon, so to speak.

But anyone who doesn't smoke, I can't see why they'd want to use them.
 
petros
+1
#10
There was a study...
 
Sal
+1
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Well I think it's fairly safe to say they are no worse than actual cigarettes (and they don't contain tar, so actually better really), so for a smoker to use them as part of a quit can't be a bad thing. Or if not part of a quit, then maybe use them as a 'cheat' during a quit. You know, satisfy that craving (at least in part) of a cigarette without falling off the wagon, so to speak.

But anyone who doesn't smoke, I can't see why they'd want to use them.

it's the suck blow thing... (no comments from the peanut gallery please)

when I quit I was disappointed to find out I was one of the very very few people who likely weren't physically addicted...quitting for me from a pack and half to two packs a day was actually pretty easy...

but I used a small pencil and smoked it...

I can be high strung and believe I unknowingly used smoking to regulate my breathing during anxiety. Just my own theory but when I quit smoking I had times when I absolutely could not catch a breath. It would last for long periods of time and cause panic. Test showed I was actually getting more than sufficient oxygen so it was my breathing technique which had to change. Smoking had regulated that since when I got anxious I lit up.
 
damngrumpy
#12
Hardly an issue to throw someone out of office on its own.
If the council is backward on everything else throw them out
 
DurkaDurka
+3
#13
Pure cigs for me, I want the best cancers.
 
petros
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Pure cigs for me, I want the best cancers.

Green death no filter.
 
DurkaDurka
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Green death no filter.

Craven A's? I think that was the brand back in the day.
 
petros
#16
Export A



I started with Sportsman.

 
Spade
+1
#17
Decades ago, before wisdom.
 
Sal
#18
started with these:



and ended with these (I think)

 
tay
#19
I know of someone who quit smoking real cigs using one of these last year. At the time I didn't know what the hell he was talking about, E cigs that is, until he showed it to me.




Now the WHO are putting their yappers out and you know a total ban on them is coming. I can see where banning sales to children would be okay but by them using the word children they are making it sound like 5 year olds are spending $100.00 on these. I've actually not seen any teens even smoking one as they are sort of costly, from a $100 and up.

I have heard some local yappers whining that it is a 'gateway' to smoking real cigs.

I bet Big Pharma that has all of the Quit Smoking drug contraptions crap are behind this......






The World Health Organization says there should be a ban on the use of e-cigarettes indoors and that sales to children should stop


In a report the health body says there must be no more claims that the devices can help smokers quit - until there is firm evidence to support this.

WHO experts warn the products might pose a threat to adolescents and the foetuses of pregnant women.

But campaigners say regulations must be proportionate.

Tempting flavours

According to the WHO legal steps need to be taken to end the use of e-cigarettes indoors - both in public spaces and in work places.

And the report focuses on the potential for products to spark wider cigarette use in children.

The health experts call for a ban on advertisements that could encourage children and non-smokers to use the devices.

And they say fruit, candy or alcoholic-drink style flavours should be prohibited too, while the sales of electronic cigarettes from vending machines should be heavily restricted.


more


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-28937610 (external - login to view)











 
Colpy
+2
#20
Sister-in-law

57 years old, lost half a lung to cancer, had a heart attack, has COPD, currently weighs 80 lbs. Yep, 80 lbs.............can't quit smoking.

The DOCTOR told her to get an e-cigarette.

There is NO NEED for controls on these items.

They do help people quit tobacco.

The "progressive" control everything people should just **** OFF.
 
EagleSmack
+7
#21  Top Rated Post
I am ALL FOR THEM!

I was nicotine addicted and it sucked to break it. So freaking hard.

Anyone who tries to ban vapor cigs or people using them publicly is a F*ing a-hole. It may save tens of thousands of lives.

I read an article from a Doc that said we should not try to discourage the use of these or ban them in restaurants. I was at a pub and the guy at the bar was using one. It was not a big deal at all. A curiosity factor at most.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
+3
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I am ALL FOR THEM!

I was nicotine addicted and it sucked to break it. So freaking hard.

Anyone who tries to ban vapor cigs or people using them publicly is a F*ing a-hole. It may save tens of thousands of lives.

I read an article from a Doc that said we should not try to discourage the use of these or ban them in restaurants. I was at a pub and the guy at the bar was using one. It was not a big deal at all. A curiosity factor at most.

Agreed. The first time I saw one I thought man the guy is smoking on subway. But after I did not smell it, I realized it was e-cig. No big deal. Some people just like getting their panties in a knot.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Agreed. The first time I saw one I thought man the guy is smoking on subway. But after I did not smell it, I realized it was e-cig. No big deal. Some people just like getting their panties in a knot.

No kidding. The only reason they would want to make them stop is because they can and they're d***s. Eating an Italian Sub on a subway is more offensive.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

No kidding. The only reason they would want to make them stop is because they can and they're d***s. Eating an Italian Sub on a subway is more offensive.

The stupid reason I heard was that it was encouraging kids to start smoking and was a gateway drug. I about fell off the chair laughing at the stupidity.
 
MHz
#25
but, but I just spent $0.83 on a pipe that looks the same same.
 
WLDB
+2
#26
Indifferent. The 'smoke' seems to be harmless so I don't see the problem. If the public is annoyed - oh well. Its almost impossible to not be annoyed by one thing or another when you go out in public. That doesn't mean that whatever that thing is should be banned.
 
petros
#27
Think of the children.
 
MHz
#28
Darn you for making me allow compassion and caring for others be part of the equation. There, I just sold it to a cracker for nothing.
 
WLDB
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

The stupid reason I heard was that it was encouraging kids to start smoking and was a gateway drug. I about fell off the chair laughing at the stupidity.


I never got that line either. Both of my parents and a few of my grandparents were chain smokers. Seeing that growing up actually made smoking repulsive to me. Ive never smoked (at least not tobacco) before.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Think of the children.

Or the adults acting like children.
 
petros
+1
#30
They are great for smoking honey oil in the bar.
 

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