City of Vancouver formally declares city is on unceded Aboriginal territory

Cliffy

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“Underlying all other truths spoken during the Year of Reconciliation is the truth that the modern city of Vancouver was founded on the traditional territories of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh First Nations and that these territories were never ceded through treaty, war or surrender,” reads part of the motion from the city.

City of Vancouver formally declares city is on unceded Aboriginal territory - BC | Globalnews.ca

This is true of most of BC. Time the provincial government did the same thing.
 

taxslave

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Just more blaterering from mayor moonbeam. How about his property on Cortez Island? Was that won in a war or given to him by the proper owners?
 

Corduroy

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As if it would have made a difference if there was a treaty. The government doesn't respect treaties. It's basically the same thing: unceded territory, ceded territory, treaty territory. The government will do whatever the **** it wants with aboriginal land and there are enough members of the public who will support them.
 
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Twila

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It was not abandoned land and it was not sold. Natives were allowed to live if they moved to reservations. If they were found off the reservation without written permission they were shot or jailed. A internment camp of sorts.

Today, most of BC remains unceded sovereign Native lands, over which neither the Canadian or BC governments have the legal or moral authority to govern.
 

petros

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Read up on Pelly & Grey negotiating sales of the land. As for forced to stay on the Rez is malarky. They were HBC contractors.

Can't hunt and trap on the Rez to keep the HBC furs rolling in. This is why they can hunt, fish and trap BC wide in or out of season without a license.

They have no issues sticking to that part of the HBC treaties and land sales.
 

Twila

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Read up on Pelly & Grey negotiating sales of the land. As for forced to stay on the Rez is malarky. They were HBC contractors.
http://www.sfu.ca/~palys/prospect.htm
The federal government was both relentless and imaginative in the means it employed to assimilate the Indian. The very definition of who was "an Indian", and hence, who also was not, was one of the elements put under government control in the first Indian Act. It is noteworthy that the continuation of Indian status was defined on the father's side: aboriginal men who married non-aboriginal women remained Indian, while aboriginal women who married non-aboriginal men lost their Indian status, as did their children. This reflected European patriarchy, and also established lineages which conflicted with the matrilineal descent practised by many First Nations (e.g., see Joseph, 1991; Wilson, 1985).

The history of Indian administration in Canada from that point onward, is one of increasing control by government authorities over natives. A partial list includes: (a) attempts to suppress "pagan rituals" and promote Christian religions by banning important cultural festivals such as the Potlatch, Thirst Dance, and Sun Dance; (b) efforts to suppress traditional native structures of self-government, and to teach the elements of English-style "good government", through imposition of elected "band councils"; (c) diminishing the influence of natural parents and heightening the in loco parentis role of the Christian churches by requiring children to leave their parents and attend government-sponsored residential schools where use of Indian languages and other aspects of "Indian-ness" were punished; (d) controlling aboriginals' efforts to organize and pursue aboriginal rights by initiating a "pass" system where Indians could not leave their reserve without permission of the Indian Agent, and making it illegal to hire a lawyer to pursue any form of aboriginal rights or land claim; and (e) undermining aboriginal justice structures by giving paramountcy to the Indian Act and other federal and provincial law (e.g., see Cole & Chaikin, 1990; Dyck, 1991; Francis, 1992; Mathias & Yabsley, 1991; Tennant, 1985; Wilson, 1985).

So they have all the rights but none of the responsibility?

What do you mean by responsiblity? Responsiblity for ensuring the resources are used appropriately? Or are you wanting them to pay?
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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What do you mean by responsiblity? Responsiblity for ensuring the resources are used appropriately? Or are you wanting them to pay?

Owning land carries obligations and responsibilities. Are they not going to assume those responsibilities? Or are they not assuming ownership? If not, I am unclear what they are actually claiming.