Judge decides to sentence convicted rapist to do 250 hours of community service

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TX Rape Crisis center says "Oh HELL No. Dafuq were you thinking, anyway?" after Judge decides to sentence convicted rapist to do 250 hours of community service at the center in lieu of jail time


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A Texas judge who ordered a rapist to serve community service at a rape crisis center has been forced to reconsider the sentence.

In a police interview, Sir Young admitted that he had raped a 14-year-old girl in 2011 at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts when he was 18.

“I hate to have that on my plate. But that’s rape,” he told police.

According to The Dallas Observer, Young could have served 20 years in jail, but Dallas County District Judge Jeanine Howard showed him leniency during last week’s sentencing.

Howard ruled that Young would only have to spend 45 days in jail, but it was the “250 hours of community service at a rape crisis center” that shocked victim advocates.



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Rape crisis center scolds Texas judge after she sentences rapist to work with victims there
 

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Having a convicted rapist volunteer at a rape crisis centre. What a wonderful way to pour copious amounts of salt into a fresh wound! How the hell do these people keep their jobs?
 

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I don't think we have enough information. I can see how this could be reasonable.

You think it's reasonable that a woman that's just been raped should be having to deal with a convicted rapist at the place where she's supposed to be getting help?

It was a stupid judgement and a huge slap in the face to rape victims.
 

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You think it's reasonable that a woman that's just been raped should be having to deal with a convicted rapist at the place where she's supposed to be getting help?
No, of course not. Now I have a question for you. Do you think that his service at the rape crisis center would necessarily involve interacting with rape victims?

Here's another one. Do you think if he was emptying the trash, washing dishes, mopping the floors, doing laundry, that rape victims would know he was a rapist?
 

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I think this punishment of serving community service in a rape crisis centre is like asking a convicted pedo to sort through child pornography.

If control and humiliation are his sexual preferences being around those that have suffered is only a pleasure for him. It also would put at risk women who are already quite vulnerable.
 

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No, of course not. Now I have a question for you. Do you think that his service at the rape crisis center would necessarily involve interacting with rape victims?

It's a horrible idea all around. The one place that a rapist should not be present at, in any capacity, is the one place where victims of sexual assault can go to feel safe and deal with the trauma. Who cares if they interact with him directly or not, just having him there is an affront.

Here's another one. Do you think if he was emptying the trash, washing dishes, mopping the floors, doing laundry, that rape victims would know he was a rapist?
Goodness knows there is no place else where someone can perform community service by taking out the trash.
 

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It's a horrible idea all around. The one place that a rapist should not be present at, in any capacity, is the one place where victims of sexual assault can go to feel safe and deal with the trauma. Who cares if they interact with him directly or not, just having him there is an affront.
So, not answering the question? Good tactic.

Goodness knows there is no place else where someone can perform community service by taking out the trash.
There certainly is. I agree that the judge made a misjudgment in not seeing how this would play in the outrage-mill media.
 

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So, not answering the question? Good tactic.

Who cares if it's a direct interaction or not, just the knowledge that he's there is going to do damage to already damaged individuals. Do you grasp the concept of what it takes for a victim of a traumatic experience to feel safe?

Again they have one place to go, he has many where he can be sent.


There certainly is. I agree that the judge made a misjudgment in not seeing how this would play in the outrage-mill media.
What is the purpose of assigning community service to a specific place? To do generic things like take out the trash? Or is the purpose generally to drive home the point of their bad behaviour by immersing them in the fallout of such behaviour?
 

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Who cares if it's a direct interaction or not, just the knowledge that he's there is going to do damage to already damaged individuals. Do you grasp the concept of what it takes for a victim of a traumatic experience to feel safe?
How are they going to know?

What is the purpose of assigning community service to a specific place? To do generic things like take out the trash? Or is the purpose generally to drive home the point of their bad behaviour by immersing them in the fallout of such behaviour?
The second, to some extent. Also a certain sense of "serve the group you offended."
 

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I don't think we have enough information. I can see how this could be reasonable.
Here ya go.
DISD | Dallas Morning News

Original post: A 20-year-old man pleaded guilty Thursday in a Dallas County courtroom to raping a girl when they were both students at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts.

The attack occurred in a practice room during school in October 2011 when Sir Young was 18 and she was 14. The two were kissing and she told him to stop when he started rubbing her body over he clothes. But he kept going and eventually took off her leggings and raped her.

Young, who was arrested at school a week after the rape, has asked state District Judge Jeanine Howard to decide his sentence. He faces two to 20 years in prison but he is also eligible for probation.

The victim testified that she told Young “no” and “stop” before and during the rape.

“I didn’t want to do anything other than kiss,” she said, answering questions from prosecutor Brandi Mitchell.

When questioned by Young’s attorney, Scottie Allen, the girl testified that she had talked with Young about having sex.


In a video recorded interview with Dallas police detective Denise Rodriguez that was played in court, Young initially said that the girl said no at first but then didn’t tell him to stop. But then, he admitted that the girl told him to stop numerous times, including during the sexual assault.

When Rodriguez described what happened and asked if that was rape, Young said, “That’s rape. I hate to have that on my plate. But that’s rape.”
 

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Here ya go.
DISD | Dallas Morning News

Original post: A 20-year-old man pleaded guilty Thursday in a Dallas County courtroom to raping a girl when they were both students at Booker T. Washington High School for the Performing and Visual Arts.

The attack occurred in a practice room during school in October 2011 when Sir Young was 18 and she was 14. The two were kissing and she told him to stop when he started rubbing her body over he clothes. But he kept going and eventually took off her leggings and raped her.

Young, who was arrested at school a week after the rape, has asked state District Judge Jeanine Howard to decide his sentence. He faces two to 20 years in prison but he is also eligible for probation.

The victim testified that she told Young “no” and “stop” before and during the rape.

“I didn’t want to do anything other than kiss,” she said, answering questions from prosecutor Brandi Mitchell.

When questioned by Young’s attorney, Scottie Allen, the girl testified that she had talked with Young about having sex.


In a video recorded interview with Dallas police detective Denise Rodriguez that was played in court, Young initially said that the girl said no at first but then didn’t tell him to stop. But then, he admitted that the girl told him to stop numerous times, including during the sexual assault.

When Rodriguez described what happened and asked if that was rape, Young said, “That’s rape. I hate to have that on my plate. But that’s rape.”
Snap! Found the same story while you were putting up your post.

OK, crazy judge. Shouldn't be on the bench. Stupid sentence. Defendant should be doing hard time.
 

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How are they going to know?

Are criminal courts top secret in the US? Are the judgements rendered not available to the public? I find that surprising given how this was published in the newspaper.

Even if it's not, for the sake of argument let's say it isn't, are you suggesting that the director(s) and staff of the rape crisis center withhold such information from the women seeking help, effectively lying to them? Do the woman not have a right to know this information, if it would affect their decision to go to that center and feel safe there in dealing with their trauma?

The second, to some extent. Also a certain sense of "serve the group you offended."
Rape is already in a constant battle not to be marginalized in society. I wouldn't even want to guess the numbers of people who still think things like "she had it coming" or "she shouldn't have been wearing that" to excuse/justify an act of violence perpetrated upon someone. Placing a convicted rapist at a rape crisis center is tantamount to saying the victims don't matter as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Snap! Found the same story while you were putting up your post.

OK, crazy judge. Shouldn't be on the bench. Stupid sentence. Defendant should be doing hard time.

Just the though of sentencing this creep to do service at the Rape Crisis Center, well I think her head is up her a-s-s.
 

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Yep, you win, SLM. The judge is a nutbar.

Proceeding on a "OK, maybe this judge isn't crazy" and the lack of information in the OP, I constructed a plausible scenario where this sentence could seem reasonable. As I have indicated, I don't think much of the outrage-mill media.

Goober and I found a much more informative account, and it turns out that even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while.

I could still argue some of your points, but this is far from the best forum for it. Maybe some other time.

Suffice to say: the defendant should be doing hard time, the judge should be off the bench. She's a moonbat.


Judge Jeanine Howard is grateful for her job, loves what she does and is hopeful that she does it well, but her path to the bench is far from traditional.

Judge Howard attended St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic School for eight years before transferring to Hillcrest High School. After graduation she moved to Denton to study sociology at North Texas State University (now called UNT). She worked at Sears, then at First Denton National Bank before moving back home to Dallas.

After nine months of training at Executive Secretarial School, she worked as a legal secretary before getting a spot as a secretary at General Dynamics/Lockheed Martin. The aeronautical giant allowed for tuition reimbursement, funding her attendance at TCU night school where she was quite proud of her straight A’s and *** laude status as she earned a degree in Business Management.

She then went on to SMU Law School, where she was Order of the Coif. During her third year, she met her husband Steve. They married in October of ’87 and had their first child, Holly, the following year.

Judge Howard initially practiced civil law for more than two years focusing on deposition preparation and research. When she found out the District Attorney’s office was hiring in the spring of 1990, she longed for the opportunity to get into the courtroom. When none other than John Vance called her at 8:00 p.m. one night to offer her the job, she thought it was some kind of practical joke. She accepted the job and while she was in the District Attorney’s office her second daughter, Theresa, was born.

As her daughters grew, she longed to spend more time at home and found a way to strike a balance between motherhood and the practice of law. She had seen and experienced some of the pitfalls of office dynamics early on in her career and wanted to streamline her professional life to make more room for her personal life. She had typed her way through law school; so preparing her own documents came naturally, eliminating the need for staff assistance. Rather than opening an office, she met clients at their convenience—sometimes at a Starbucks and sometimes borrowing a good friend’s conference room if necessary. A large portion of her work involved appeals with the client staying as a guest of the State. By running a virtual office, she could spend time with her family on her own schedule.

With both girls near graduation in 2005, Judge Howard began exploring the possibility of becoming a judge. Having experience in private practice, experience in the District Attorney’s office, and an understanding of appellate law and trial work, she felt uniquely situated to serve the people of Dallas County. In her time on the bench, she believes she has.

She’s most proud of her First Friday program. At any given time, between 10 and 15 young offenders, (ages 17 to 22) who lack structure or parental guidance, meet directly with the judge once a month while on supervision in addition to their other obligations. Reverend Ronald Wright assists her in reaching these wayward young people to help align their intentions and keep them succeeding while on probation. Her goal for them, and for all those on probation, is to correct whatever behavioral patterns that led to putting the defendant squarely in the lights of law enforcement. While meeting financial obligations is important, she will often reduce recommended fines and supervision fees (for cause) to keep the focus on reporting and participating in probation. She would never want poverty to interfere with a person successfully turning their life around. She always tells the people in her court, “Don’t ever let money be a reason you don’t report.”

In her courtroom, Judge Howard prefers all pleas on the record, lawyers and clients dressed for court in a respectful way, and please, no cell phones.

She enjoys the camaraderie of the legal community and enjoys having lawyers that appear in her court stop by to get to know her better. If you do, you may find she shares your interests in authors James Patterson or Mary Higgins Clark. Ask her about her treasured willow tree and you will find yourself engaged in a conversation with an avid gardener who enjoys taking the time to hand water her plants as a way to unwind after a long day at the Crowley courts building.
 

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Yep, you win, SLM. The judge is a nutbar.

Proceeding on a "OK, maybe this judge isn't crazy" and the lack of information in the OP, I constructed a plausible scenario where this sentence could seem reasonable. As I have indicated, I don't think much of the outrage-mill media.

I don't give a damn about the outrage-mill media either. I formulate my own opinions.

I do however care that individuals who've been subjected to an invasive violent act upon their person, where seeking some kind of legal redress usually also involves some pretty invasive acts as well, has a least one small sanctuary where they can go to begin healing. Whether the judge is a certified whacko or had a bad day, I don't care. I believe the concept of sentencing a rapist to community service at a rape crisis center to be a bad one.
 

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I don't give a damn about the outrage-mill media either. I formulate my own opinions.

I do however care that individuals who've been subjected to an invasive violent act upon their person, where seeking some kind of legal redress usually also involves some pretty invasive acts as well, has a least one small sanctuary where they can go to begin healing. Whether the judge is a certified whacko or had a bad day, I don't care. I believe the concept of sentencing a rapist to community service at a rape crisis center to be a bad one.
Unfortunately, you're probably right. I can see how a convicted rapist, used properly, could be an asset at a rape crisis center. But the odds that the rapist would be used properly are next to zero.

Sorry, your points are well taken. I got kinda carried away with the idea that intelligent, perceptive people can do good things. I'm afraid I spend too much time with intelligent, perceptive people. Get to thinking they're the norm.
 

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Rapist gets probation because girl 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'

Rapist gets probation because girl 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'
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First posted: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:06 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:19 PM EDT
A Dallas, Texas, judge sentenced an admitted rapist to probation because she says the 14-year-old girl he assaulted wasn't a virgin and "wasn't the victim she claimed to be."
The decision caused outrage in the community, but State District Judge Jeanine Howard defended sentencing Sir Young, 20, to 45 days in prison, probation and he must volunteer at a rape crisis centre, the Dallas Morning News reported.
The girl, now 17, admitted she wanted to kiss the then-18-year-old boy, but when he wanted to have sex, she said no and told him to stop during the assault at their high school.
But Howard said the girl had been sexually active before, had a baby, and had shown interest in Young.
"She wasn't the victim she claimed to be," Howard said. "He is not your typical sex offender."
The girl told the paper she now believes "it would have been better for me not to say anything."
Rapist gets probation because girl 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be' | World
 

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Re: Rapist gets probation because girl 'wasn't the victim she claimed to be'

This say's it all when it comes to her sentencing decision.

Howard said she never intended for Young to work with rape victims. She said her decision to order his hours to be performed there was “spur of the moment.” She had thought he could mop floors, mow the lawn or cook.


Disgusting.