Is there a way to control knife violence?


petros
#1
Is there a cure for stupid?

CBC News

Following the stabbings in Calgary and Regina, some people on social media have raised the debate over knife legislation and the banning of certain types of knives.*

However, Eugene Schreiner has been making knives in Saskatoon for the past 65 years and he said*a knife ban would be difficult to enforce.

"You can ban whatever you want, I mean, drugs are banned, everything is banned, but who can enforce it?" he said. "You know, are they going to take your kitchen knives away on you?"

University of Saskatchewan law professor Glen Luther agrees with Schreiner*that banning knives is hard to do.*

"You have to realize, the criminal code definition of a weapon is a difficult thing to define," he said. "What is a weapon, what isn't a weapon, and in the case of knives, of course, we have all kinds of legal uses for them. All of us use a knife every day to butter our bread, or whatever, let alone hunting and fishing and butchers and chefs."

There are a couple of different kinds of knives*currently prohibited under the Criminal Code. Those include spring-activated blades and brass-knuckle blades.

Across the country, the number of stabbing deaths has stayed fairly stable in the recent past.*However, knives are still seen as the most common weapon used in crimes.

According to Statistics Canada, in 2008, one-third of homicides or attempted murders involved knives. That's more than any type of weapon, including guns. In the same year,*knives were used against six per cent of victims of violent crime and firearms were used against two per cent of victims.

What do you think? Is there a way to control certain kinds of knives? What can be done to curb knife violence? What is your reaction to these stabbings?*Leave your thoughts in the comment section at the bottom of the page.
 
darkbeaver
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We will have to make the national knife competency course mandatory, introduce handle locks and secure cabinets. I have a class two ticket which proves I can use a butter knife safely. I had some trouble for the first few weeks but managed to pass the final exam.
 
MHz
#3
Make sure everybody has a machete.
 
JLM
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#4
Absolutely- all knives in a household have to be stamped with a number and the initials of the person in household taking responsibility for a knives. All knives have to be kept in a knife safe which is accompanied with a log book. When ever a knife is needed for whatever reason by a member of the household, it has to be issued by the person responsible and the date time and usage and the name of the user and the time of the return to the safe. Valid uses for the knives shall include food preparation, food consumption, cleaning finger nails and whittling.
 
Locutus
#5
quite simple really...register them and RFID each and every one of them and their owners.

mind you, we might get an DYI and underground shank industry pop up. but I uh, doubt that very much. yeah, I doubt that.
 
Mowich
#6
" Is there a way to control certain kinds of knives?"

There may be but why bother? If someone is going to stab someone they could always use a screwdriver.

" What can be done to curb knife violence?"

Very little. After all the kid that killed the university students was headed for a career in law, had no priors and was by all I've heard, a pretty normal kid. Who knew he would go off the deep end and murder his friends?

"What is your reaction to these stabbings?"

That there seem to be a number of these types of incidents lately. Why? Who knows........maybe it was the Blood Moon.
 
MHz
#7
Chainmail clothing, .... wait that would make tasers obsolete.
 
Sal
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Is there a cure for stupid?

No there is no way to control knife violence. Knives are a necessity. Yes they can also be a lethal weapon. Had this kid had a gun the slaughter would have been far worse.

I believe this kid was successful in his slaughter because he was a friend, he was invited to the party, he was trusted. This is the biggest violation of trust that a human being could commit. Had he been a stranger there may well have been a quicker understanding of and response to the danger they were in.

We will have to wait to see what emerges as his trigger. Until then, everything is speculation with few facts to back conclusions.
 
petros
#9
What's next? Try to figure how to control blunt objects of unknown origins?
 
eh1eh
#10
Ban knives!

Ok, so now I can't use capital letters. What a nanny state this forum has become. American style censorship.
 
Goober
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Ban knives!

Ok, so now I can't use capital letters. What a nanny state this forum has become. American style censorship.

Solution- Gruel be the only allowed food, spoons are safe.
 
lone wolf
#12
Better funding for track and field
 
SLM
#13
You cannot control violence. Violence comes from within, it does not spring up automatically the moment you place a weapon in someone's hands. All that can possibly be done is to work to diminish violent crime, not eliminate or control but diminish, is to put the time and effort into youth before they become violent, before crime becomes a way of life.

But sadly there will always be idiots and low lifes who can't control their emotions who will seek to do harm to others.
 
lone wolf
+1
#14
I suppose self-defense as a part of physical education programs would be politically incorrect
 
JLM
+1
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

I suppose self-defense as a part of physical education programs would be politically incorrect


If it's politically incorrect, I say go for it!
 
Colpy
+2
#16
Is there a way to control knife violence?


Yep.

Give everyone a pistol.

 
WLDB
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

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Give everyone a pistol.

Ha, beat me to it.

Failing that, a sword. They can reach a bit farther and should help a bit.
 
darkbeaver
#18
controlled knife violence takes many years of practice
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+2
#19
At first I thought this was a joke, then, unfortunately, I started reading the article.

Plastic cutlery for everyone.
 
Colpy
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

At first I thought this was a joke, then, unfortunately, I started reading the article.

Plastic cutlery for everyone.

Yes.

As awful as the murders in Calgary were, I refuse to take stuff like this seriously.
 
taxslave
+1
#21
Be easier to ban stupid people.
 
WLDB
+2
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post


Plastic cutlery for everyone.

That would be horrible! I sell knives for a living. Id get next to nothing on commission from selling plastic cutlery.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Be easier to ban stupid people.

They'd be just as hard to get rid of as guns and knives. Get rid of one and another dozen pop up.
 
Locutus
+2
#23
never mind guns, knives, fishing rods, umbrellas and rat tail toques...

The next time they will ask:

Is there a way to control violence?

then after we stop chuckling, we'll worry even more what they have planned for our best interests.
 
Blackleaf
#24
In Britain you have to be 18 before you can buy knives.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+1
#25
Aren't certain types of knives already banned in Canada? They are here, at least for carrying them. Switchblades, double-edged blades, blades over a certain length, usually 3 1/2-4 inches (8-10 cm).
 
captain morgan
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Solution- Gruel be the only allowed food, spoons are safe.

No good Goobs... Mandatory gruel rations might be the impetus for the use of sporks.

.. Sure, they look harmless enough, but deftly crafted into the villainous design is the technology of mass destruction

 
taxslave
#27
Eliminating violent people would be easier than eliminating weapons.
 
Kreskin
#28
Chopsticks. Mandatory utensil. Carve the turkey with chopsticks or a colt 45.
 
JamesBondo
+1
#29
we teach cub scouts that a knife is a tool, not a weapon.


and if they call it a weapon, we take away their weapon for the rest of the year.

Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Aren't certain types of knives already banned in Canada? They are here, at least for carrying them. Switchblades, double-edged blades, blades over a certain length, usually 3 1/2-4 inches (8-10 cm).


It is a bit different here compared to the USA.


In Canada, any knife that can be opened through centrifugal force( a butterfly knife, or any knife with a spring removed so the blade just flips out) or any knife that can be opened with mechanical assistance( switch blade, slider blades, etc ) .....these are all prohibited in Canada.


However, unlike the USA, the definition of weapon does not include a blade length, so in Canada a machete, a 14" bowie knife and a pocket knife are equal until intent is established. Not one of them is considered a weapon unless intent is established. If you are a boy scout or a bushcrafter or a carpet layer in Canada, GO Crazy! You have a valid reason for a knife, and intent would be difficult to establish. If you are street youth gang banger, even a pocket knife in your wallet could make you guilty of concealed weapons charges.

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interestingly enough, this knife can be opened by centrifugal force, yet it is not illegal because you need to hold the knife by the blade instead of the handle. Subtle difference, but that is the way it is in Canada.
 
Nuggler
#30
We are subtly different.
 

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