Standing Your Ground In Kansas


Tecumsehsbones
#1
Man arrested in Kansas Jewish community shootings reportedly longtime Ku Klux Klan leader

The 73-year-old man accused of going on a deadly shooting spree Sunday at Jewish facilities in Kansas has been identified as a former ‘grand dragon’ of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The shootings took the lives of three people before he was arrested.


Two of those shot were at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City. The other was at the Village Shalom Retirement Center. Both are located in Overland Park, Kan., south of Kansas City.


The shootings occurred about 1 p.m. central time a day before Passover, the eight-day holiday in which Jews celebrate their freedom from slavery in Egypt.


The Kansas City Star said that the gunman fired at five people Sunday afternoon, but he missed two of his targets, who were not injured. Police said the man had not only a shotgun but also a handgun and possibly an assault weapon.


According to the Star:

Matt Davis, who lives near Valley Park Elementary where police arrested Miller, was shopping with his son for a suit for his upcoming bar mitzvah when he heard about the shooting. Davis was outside the school when Miller was hauled off.


The man was smiling.


‘I was wondering, Why is the guy smiling when he’s being arrested,’ said Davis, whose daughter was inside the Jewish Community Center when the shooting occurred in the parking lot. She and the hundreds of other people inside the center were not injured.


Rabbi Herbert Mandl, chaplain for the Overland Park Police Department, told CNN that the shooter was shouting neo-Nazi slogans as he was taken away. Mandl also said he was asking people whether they were Jewish before he fired. And KCTV reported he was yelling “Heil Hitler” during the arrest.


The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a respected activist organization that tracks hate crimes and racist activities, said the man arrested and identified by police as Frazier Glenn Cross is actually Frazier Glenn Miller. Miller, the SPLC said, founded and ran the Carolina Klan before he was sued by the SPLC “for operating an illegal paramilitary organization and using intimidation tactics against African Americans.”


He later founded another Klan outfit, the White Patriot Party, which put him in violation of the terms that settled the suit brought by the SPLC. He was found in criminal contempt in 1986 and served six months in prison. He moved underground while out on bond and was caught in Missouri with other Klansmen with a reserve of weapons, the SPLC stated.


The next year, he pleaded guilty to a weapons charge. He was indicted for plotting to obtain stolen military weapons, and for planning robberies and the assassination of the SPLC founder Morris Dees. As part of a plea deal, he testified against other Klan leaders and received a five-year sentence. He served only three years, the SPLC stated.


In 2010, Miller ran for the U.S. Senate, and in 2006, he ran for the U.S. House, inciting fear among voters when his ads urged whites to “take the country back” from Jews and “mud people,” according to news reports.


Frazier Glenn Cross was booked into the Johnson County jail after 8:30 p.m. Sunday on suspicion of premeditated first-degree murder, according to the booking report.


A public records search shows he has used both names. And in a statement released Sunday night, the SPLC said it was able to identify Cross as Miller after a telephone conversation with his wife, Marge. She told the SPLC Miller had gone to a local casino Saturday afternoon. He called Sunday to tell her his winnings were up.


Police went to her home Sunday night to tell her Miller was arrested for the shootings.


Miller is a longtime anti-Semite. His Web site, with the headline, “Hey Whitey, Why Don’t You And Your Friends Build Your Own White Club? It’s Not Against The Law To Be White, Yet,” features photos of “white power” marches and radio interviews.


During a segment on an African American radio talk show, he told the host: “I just started [Carolina Knights] with three men … and by the time they threw me in prison six years later, I had built the largest white activist organization in the United States with over 5,000 strong.”


According to the SPLC, Miller claimed he read his first racist newspaper, called The Thunderbolt, in the 1970s. According to Miller, within two minutes, he knew he “had found a home within the American White Movement. I was ecstatic,” the SPLC reported.


Family members of two of the three people killed in Sunday’s shootings have identified them.


More at link: Man arrested in Kansas Jewish community shootings reportedly longtime Ku Klux Klan leader

 
Locutus
#2
maybe he knew Robert Byrd.
 
EagleSmack
+1
#3
Was he standing his ground? Attacked?


I wonder if there were anymore people standing their ground in L.A., Chicago, or Baltimore.

Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

maybe he knew Robert Byrd.


A fan of the Kennedy's even!
 
Tecumsehsbones
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Was he standing his ground? Attacked?

Yep. His America was being attacked by Jews and "mud people."
 
EagleSmack
+1
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Yep. His America was being attacked by Jews and "mud people."


Where? Were they coming at him with a gun?
 
Tecumsehsbones
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Where?

Kansas, apparently.
 
EagleSmack
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Kansas, apparently.


I think the media failed to mention that.
 
Tecumsehsbones
+2
#8  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think the media failed to mention that.

Yeah, the lamestream media. Good for feeding the Orders of the Day to braindead leftists.
 
B00Mer
#9

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spaminator
#10
Former KKK leader charged in shootings at Kansas Jewish centres
Carey Gillam, Reuters
First posted: Monday, April 14, 2014 10:36 AM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:34 AM EDT
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. – The suspect in the Passover Eve killings of three people at two Jewish facilities near Kansas City is a former Ku Klux Klan leader with a history of hatred for Jews, law enforcement officials said on Monday.
Frazier Glenn Cross, 73, faces local and federal prosecution on hate crime charges after his arrest on Sunday for a shooting spree that killed a teenager and his grandfather outside a Jewish community centre, and a woman visiting her mother at a nearby Jewish retirement home.
Both facilities are in Overland Park, Kansas, an upscale suburb outside Kansas City, Missouri. None of the victims was Jewish. The boy and his grandfather were members of an area Methodist church and the woman attended a Catholic church.
Cross, of Aurora, Missouri, had a criminal history and was known by law enforcement and human rights groups as a former senior member of the KKK movement and someone who had long made public comments against Jewish people, according to the FBI.
"Yesterday's attack ... strikes at the core fundamental freedoms ... of how our country was founded and what we live by every single day," said FBI agent Michael Kaste.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a leading anti-hate group, has tracked Cross, who also goes by the name Frazier Glenn Miller, for years. The group said he was involved in creating an armed paramilitary organization in North Carolina 20 years ago and is a "raging anti-Semite" who has posted online commentaries that state "No Jews, Just Right" along with calls to "exterminate the Jews."
Cross is a former leader of both the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Patriot Party, groups aimed at the unification of white people, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. He served time in prison on weapons charges and for making threats through the mail, the group said.
The Anti-Defamation League said Cross was one of the "more notorious white supremacists" in the United States in the early 1980s, though his involvement over the last decade has been on the periphery of the white supremacist movement.
The league issued a security bulletin to U.S. synagogues and Jewish communal institutions urging them to review security plans for the Passover holiday that started at sundown.
SURPRISE ATTACKS
The shootings started around 1 p.m. at the Jewish Community centre of Greater Kansas City.
High school student Reat Griffin Underwood, 14, was with his grandfather, 69-year-old William Corporon, outside the Jewish Community centre when they both were attacked. The teenager was at the centre to audition for a singing competition, according to his mother Mindy Corporon Losen.
Both suffered head wounds. The grandfather died at the scene and the boy died later at a hospital, police said.
In a press conference Monday, Losen recounted the last moments she saw her son alive. The boy was excited to be auditioning for the vocal competition and sang two songs for his mother before he left for the community centre. One song was "You're Gonna Miss Me When I'm Gone," Losen said.
Losen herself drove to the community centre later to try to see her son, not knowing anything had happened. She arrived just moments after the shooter had fled and found her father dead on the ground beside his truck and her fatally wounded son lying in the arms of strangers who were trying to help keep the boy alive.
"It was very unreal and no one should have to go through that," she said. "It didn't feel like a crime scene to me. It was my family."
The third victim was killed a little more than a mile (1.6 km) away outside the Village Shalom retirement community. Terri LaManno, 53, was making a regular visit to her mother who lived at the retirement facility when she was shot, police said. LaManno was an occupational therapist and married mother of two children, police said.
It appeared the gunman had used a shotgun and possibly other firearms, police said.
FBI agent Kaste said his agency had been aware of Cross and his background but was not monitoring him and had no warnings of the attacks. He said that it did not matter that the victims were not Jewish because hate crime violations are tied to the biases and beliefs of the suspect, not the identities of the victims.
The Jewish Community centre, known locally as "The J" is a popular recreational and educational spot for many families throughout the area, Jewish or not. It is also the site of Kansas City's only Jewish community day school, the Hyman Brand Hebrew Academy.
"It was a horrible act of violence," said Losen. But "we want something good to come out of this. We don't know what that is going to be."
The family is waiting to hear if Reat's tissue and organs are suitable for donation, she said.
"He was with us for a wonderful 14 years. We were very blessed," Losen said.
Former KKK leader charged in shootings at Kansas Jewish centres | World | News | Toronto Sun
 
Tonington
#11
Jewish centers murder suspect F. Glenn Miller Jr. was once caught with a black male prostitute, former prosecutor says - KansasCity.com

The white supremacist accused of shooting to death three people outside Jewish centers in Overland Park was caught in the mid-1980s in a car with a black male prostitute dressed as a woman, a former federal prosecutor said Thursday.
Crazy mofo, he's got some issues.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#12
What does the title of this thread have to do with the article?
 
Locutus
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

What does the title of this thread have to do with the article?

...in related news, I wonder how many people were arrested in the 80's, arrested with a prostitute, arrested with a male prostitute or even a black tranny? In the 80's man.

The 80's.

Anyway, we could probably start with politicians and celebrities for kicks. I'm sure they can shoe-horn in there somewhere.

Who cares anyway.
 
petros
#14
I knew I missed out on something in the 80 but just couldn't figure out what. I feel left out.
 
Locutus
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I knew I missed out on something in the 80 but just couldn't figure out what. I feel left out.

I did it in the seventies. It's over-rated.
 
petros
#16
I had to settle for a hot 35year old hippy chick that had incredible pink champagne cocaine that was damn near pure. Not many black trannys in SK back then.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

What does the title of this thread have to do with the article?

It takes an active and well-informed intelligence. I'm sure you have that.
 
petros
#18
How many hits did you drop?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

It takes an active and well-informed intelligence. I'm sure you have that.

In other words, the title has little to do with the article other than the fact that there was a gun involved.
 
gerryh
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

In other words, the title has little to do with the article other than the fact that there was a gun involved.


Think Zimmerman. I know, I know. Just suggesting an answer.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Think Zimmerman. I know, I know. Just suggesting an answer.

Of course, how couldn't I have seen the connection? KKK= Zimmerman

Good grief.
 
gerryh
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

Of course, how couldn't I have seen the connection? KKK= Zimmerman

Good grief.


Stand your ground was cited with Zimmerman by the right wing. I'm sure that TB (being left) was trying to be both amusing and preemptive in his citing of "Stand your ground". Personally, I found no reason to be preemptive and didn't find it amusing in any way.
 
Locutus
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

Of course, how couldn't I have seen the connection? KKK= Zimmerman

Good grief.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Stand your ground was cited with Zimmerman by the right wing. I'm sure that TB (being left) was trying to be both amusing and preemptive in his citing of "Stand your ground". Personally, I found no reason to be preemptive and didn't find it amusing in any way.


more of a concern-troll than an enigmatic wuss oozing profundity.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+2
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Stand your ground was cited with Zimmerman by the right wing. I'm sure that TB (being left) was trying to be both amusing and preemptive in his citing of "Stand your ground". Personally, I found no reason to be preemptive and didn't find it amusing in any way.

Irrelevant seems to be the operative word.
 
eh1eh
+2
#25
So this thread should have been, 'sucking big black cock in the 80's'? Hmmm?
 
petros
#26
I had a hippy suck mine. Apparently I didn't miss anything going the black tranny hooker route.
 
eh1eh
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I had a hippy suck mine. Apparently I didn't miss anything going the black tranny hooker route.


Well until you actually suck a cock I don't think you can talk.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
#28
Enough about the suck.
 
damngrumpy
#29
This guy is another right wing Nazi sympathizer with slogans and violence
Nazis were right wing not left incidentally
The guy was not on stand your ground he was the aggressor now stand your
ground in principle I disagree with but in this case if the facts were correct
one cannot compare it to stand your ground or proclaim its defense that is
unless the Jewish people were shooting back and that didn't happen
 
Tonington
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

In other words, the title has little to do with the article other than the fact that there was a gun involved.

He answered in post #4, it was referring to a bit of text further down in the article:

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Was he standing his ground? Attacked?

Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

Yep. His America was being attacked by Jews and "mud people."

And now the old geezers can get back to confessions of Johnny cockgobbler. Seriously you guys paid for it? I guess the Captain isn't alone in paying for it!

Sorry for contributing to the old dudes 'jacking' your thread Tecumsehsbones
 

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