Stabbings injure up to 20 at Pennsylvania high school


Locutus
#1
As many as 20 students have been injured in multiple stabbings at a high school in Murrysville, Pa., 29 kilometres east of Pittsburgh.

One male student has been taken into custody and as many as nine people were believed to have been taken to hospital following the incident Wednesday morning at Franklin Regional High School.

An official said four students were believed to be seriously injured after a student with a knife stabbed or slashed others.

Emergency management spokesman Dan Stevens said not all of the 20 injured were cut by the knife, though most were. Some suffered scrapes and cuts in the mayhem.

Stevens said it doesn't appear any students suffered life-threatening injuries. He said all the injured were between 14 and 17 years old.

A posting on the Franklin Regional Senior High School website said: "A critical incident has occurred at the high school. All elementary schools are cancelled, the middle school and high school students are secure. Additional information will be released as soon as possible."


http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/stabbin...hool-1.2603871
 
Goober
#2
Police chief: 'Panic and chaos' in Pennsylvania school mass stabbing - CNN.com

CNN -- A male sophomore went on a stabbing spree at his high school in Murrysville, Pennsylvania, early Wednesday, the town's police chief said.

At least 20 people at Franklin Regional Senior High School, about 15 miles east of downtown Pittsburgh, were injured, and the alleged attacker is in custody, Thomas Seefeld said.

The violence happened in classrooms and a hallway, said Dan Stevens, a spokesman for Westmoreland County Emergency Management.

A school principal had "an interaction" with the suspect, and a school resource officer was able to handcuff him, Seefeld said. The 16-year-old is being treated for injuries to his hands, the chief said.

Mark Drear, vice president of the security company for the school, said one of his officers was stabbed. The school had three security officers and a full-time police officer Wednesday morning, he said.

A fire alarm that was pulled during the attack probably helped get more people out of the school during an evacuation order. Seefeld said that students were running everywhere, and there was "chaos and panic."

At one point, a female student applied pressure to the wounds of one of the male victims, possibly helping to save his life, said Dr. Mark Rubino, chief medical officer at Forbes Regional Hospital in nearby Monroeville, Pennsylvania, where seven teenagers and one adult were taken.

That male teen helped by a fellow student was one of three teens taken into surgery at Forbes.

The adult being treated there was not stabbed; he's suffering from an unspecified medical condition, according to hospital officials.

The teens' injuries are "quite serious," and "some are clearly life-threatening," said Dr. Chris Kaufmann of Forbes Regional.

They were stabbed in their torso, abdomen, chest and back areas, and two people were sent to surgery immediately after arriving, he said. Those two patients had low blood pressure, he said.

The teens who are undergoing surgery suffered knife wounds, most to the lower abdomen, Rubino said.

Physicians are evaluating other patients to see if they need surgery as well, Kaufmann said.

Rubino said he expects all the teens to live, noting that the strength of their youth gives them a greater chance of survival. But "I do want to stress the critical nature of their injuries," he cautioned.

Eleven victims were taken to four University of Pittsburgh Medical Center hospitals, UPMC spokesman Cindy McGrath said. One was sent to UPMC Presbyterian; four were taken to Children's Hospital; one was taken to UPMC Mercy; and five were taken to UPMC East. She did not have ages or conditions of the victims.

A doctor who treated six stabbing victims said most of them didn't immediately realize how they were injured. "They just felt pain and noticed they were bleeding. Almost all of them said they didn't see anyone coming at them," Dr. Timothy VanFleet, chief of emergency medicine at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, told CNN's Ashleigh Banfield. "It apparently was a crowded hallway and they were going about their business, and then just felt pain and started bleeding."

The students who were hurt range in age from 14 to 17, Stevens said. All of the injuries are stabbing-related, such as lacerations or punctures, and there were no guns involved, he said.

A message on the Franklin Regional School District's website said all of its elementary schools were closed after the incident, and "the middle school and high school students are secure."

Franklin Regional Senior High will be closed "over the next several days," district school Superintendent Gennaro Piraino said. The district's middle school and elementary schools will be open Thursday, and counseling will be available for the whole district, he said.

Information on what led to the stabbings and the conditions of the injured are still unfolding.

On Wednesday morning, students were being released to their parents, Stevens said. Shortly before 10 a.m. ET, CNN affiliate KDKA reported that some parents were beginning to be reunited with their children.

Bill Rehkopf, a KDKA radio host and Franklin Regional High School graduate, reported on air that he was shocked by the stabbings.

He kept thinking, "It doesn't happen here, it can't happen here," he said.

He said he was seeing parents showing up at the school and an increasing media presence. Parents appear to be calm, he said. Another KDKA reporter said she spoke with a parent who said she received a cell phone call from her daughter, who told her mother that "something bad" happened and that she needed to be picked up.

CNN first learned of the stabbings on Twitter.
 
Mowich
#3
There you are walking along the hallway with your buds, on your way to class or whatever and WHAM out of nowhere you are bleeding and others around you are too. School hallways will never be the same for a lot of kids after this.

Thanks for this, Goob......came looking for something on the incident.
 
taxslave
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Just one teacher with a gun could have prevented a lot of pain for a lot of people.
 
WLDB
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Just one teacher with a gun could have prevented a lot of pain for a lot of people.

That could get messy. With a knife the kid would have had to be in physical contact with his victims or only a few inches away. A teacher with a gun would have risked hitting the wrong person. Even cops make that mistake at times and they are trained for that sort of thing.
 
55Mercury
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Just one teacher with a gun could have prevented a lot of pain for a lot of people.

gun shmun

if there was only a knife registry this never would have happened
 
Praxius
+1
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Just one teacher with a gun could have prevented a lot of pain for a lot of people.

Yes that's always the magical answer isn't it?

A teacher pulls a gun to shoot one kid with a knife while you have countless other kids running around in panic and chaos between you and the nut job.

Yes, that will end well more often than not.

Then kids will simply go back to using bigger guns and more of them, shoot the teachers first, take their guns and go after the rest of the students.

Last I heard, there were no deaths in this incident. Can't say the same for many of the mass shootings that have happened.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#8
MURRYSVILLE, Penn.

Pennsylvania officials sought a motive on Thursday for a stabbing rampage at a high school after a 16-year-old student was accused of wielding two knives and wounding nearly two dozen people.

The attacker stalked through Franklin Regional High School in Murrysville near Pittsburgh on Wednesday, stabbing victims in the torso and slashing their arms and faces before being tackled by an assistant principal, officials and students said.

Murrysville Police Department Captain Rob Liermann said 16-year-old sophomore Alex Hribal was taken into custody and charged with attempted homicide.

He had had no psychiatric or disciplinary problems, and his family described him as a good student who mingled well with others, family attorney Patrick Thomassey told ABC News.

"His parents are devastated and send their condolences to everybody involved," Thomassey said. "They can't figure it out."

More at link: Pennsylvania chool stabbing: Student charged as adult - chicagotribune.com

Clearly the only way to stop this senseless carnage is to adopt strict knife-control laws.

We should set up a National Knife Registry and send the cops house to house searching for unregistered knives.

And of course we should ban all "assault knives" and require background checks and fingerprinting for anyone who wants to own a knife, as well as registry.

That'll do it.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Just one teacher with a gun could have prevented a lot of pain for a lot of people.

Hell, one linebacker coulda belted him with a chair.

I've put my knife control proposals in another thread.

Aaaaand. . . they got moved to this thread.
Last edited by Tecumsehsbones; Apr 10th, 2014 at 08:16 AM..
 
Locutus
#10
Just RFD-tag knife owners. I hear the idea is floating around out there for other weapons.
 
taxslave
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by PraxiusView Post

Yes that's always the magical answer isn't it?

A teacher pulls a gun to shoot one kid with a knife while you have countless other kids running around in panic and chaos between you and the nut job.

Yes, that will end well more often than not.

Then kids will simply go back to using bigger guns and more of them, shoot the teachers first, take their guns and go after the rest of the students.

Last I heard, there were no deaths in this incident. Can't say the same for many of the mass shootings that have happened.

A knife can cause devestating permanent injuries too. That is part of the reason cops will shoot a perp with a knife.
 
Blackleaf
#12
In Britain, schools are safe places where parents can send their children without any fear of them never returning home.

In America, schools are dangerous places in which parents have to equip their children with kevlar body armour and stab-proof vests to ensure they return home alive and well in the evening.
 
lone wolf
#13
Violent school pupils attack 900 London teachers a year - Education - News - London Evening Standard

Teachers, on the other hand....
 
Praxius
+1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

A knife can cause devestating permanent injuries too. That is part of the reason cops will shoot a perp with a knife.

Well yes, that's all true, and if someone came at me with a knife and I had a gun, I'd shoot em too.... my issue is that it's just not as simple as putting a gun into a teachers hands in such an environment. My father just retired from teaching and before he was a teacher, he was in the military and trained other soldiers on how to properly use the various firearms issued to them...... give him a gun and he'd probably do just fine.

But the greater majority of teachers don't have such a background and went into their careers to teach and help be a part of educating and molding the community's children. They sure don't go into it for the pay.

The thing is, most teachers, both men and women, do not go into teaching with the expectation that they need firearms training and may end up having to take the life of one or more of their students. Although it's a profession, these teachers will have to face the issue that they may have to draw a weapon on a kid they have known for years..... these kids who go on killing sprees aren't just monsters like what the rest of us see on tv. We have no attachment to them, so it's easy to put ourselves in that situation where we'd gun the brat down without a second thought.

Most teachers would have a hard time being in such a situation and even though they know they would need to pull the trigger and drop the attacker, they're going to have an even harder time after it's done.

And what happens if a teacher refuses to carry a firearm or fails their training? They can't be teachers? They qualify as a very good educational instructor, but not a very good killing machine, so they can't be a teacher...... that's a strange world to enter.

Teachers are not police officers or soldiers, they are not trained for extended periods of time for such situations, nor are they encountering these situations on an almost daily basis.

I've also known a few friends/fellow students who've gone into education and I can hardly imagine them being people who would "Do Well" in that kind of situation.

I'm all for the idea of having 1-2 police officers in schools not just for these kinds of things (and to quickly report the problem the moment it happens and get backup) but there are other benefits as well for having police officers in schools.

Besides, we have multiple police officers patrolling the streets and large events in our communities.... it seems logical that you'd have 1 or 2 of those officers patrolling an area that contains a large concentration of the community's children.
Last edited by Praxius; Apr 10th, 2014 at 06:55 PM..
 

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