Ontario raw milk crusader Michael Schmidt loses conviction appeal


Locutus
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Michael Schmidt says he’ll take his raw milk legal battle to the Supreme Court of Canada.

A farmer who has spent two decades fighting for the right to sell unpasteurized milk to willing buyers pledged to take his case to the country's highest court Tuesday after losing an appeal against his conviction for breaking public health laws.

Speaking minutes after the Ontario Court of Appeal ruling, an unbowed Michael Schmidt said he would continue with his milk operation and legal battle.

“Nothing really changes for me,” Schmidt told The Canadian Press.

“Our plan is to move right to the Supreme Court. That's the bottom line. We're not stopping here.”

In its ruling, the Ontario Court of Appeal upheld a 2011 conviction against Schmidt that saw him fined $9,150 under provincial health-protection laws.


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Ontario raw milk crusader Michael Schmidt loses conviction appeal | Toronto Star
 
relic
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****ers are going to protect us to DEATH !! They try and shove all kinds of evil **** down out throats, that's fine but try and drink whole milk, of your own free will , knowing the "risk" and the bastards will **** you up. Free country my **** !!!!!
I drank whole milk that we got from a neighbour for I think fifteen cents a quart,some mornings it was still warm, some mornings it was half cream, some mornings it had a bit of cow **** in it. I drank from that cow till it died about 1960, so ten years,and now, at 63, I'm in perfect health, if I shaved I could easily pass for 40. I'm not saying it was all whole milk, booze and dope had a hand .
I just don't get it.
 
mentalfloss
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Good.
 
El Barto
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They recently discovered the pure milk has good bacteria's .... sort of sounds like that cholesterol thing when all cholesterol was bad , then later revised that .... no .... there is good cholesterol.
This laws should be reviewed and revised with this new information.
 
lone wolf
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The trick is sell the bottle and give the milk free
 
mentalfloss
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This is the perfect example of how the people who complain about living in a nanny state are complete idiots.
 
lone wolf
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Do you like to be told what to do?
 
mentalfloss
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People tell others what to do all the time.

When laws are in place to maintain the well being of others, we need to honour those laws.
 
Liberalman
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Like buying and boarding horses at private stables for the occasional ride people have the option of buying or renting a cow and keeping it at the farms and getting raw milk
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

People tell others what to do all the time.

When laws are in place to maintain the well being of others, we need to honour those laws.

When laws get in the way of common sense or the right to make a choice, it's time to rethink those laws.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by El BartoView Post

They recently discovered the pure milk has good bacteria's .... sort of sounds like that cholesterol thing when all cholesterol was bad , then later revised that .... no .... there is good cholesterol.
This laws should be reviewed and revised with this new information.

Beneficial bacteria in milk is not a new discovery. The problem is that milk is also a great host for tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, Q-fever, Salmonella, Listeria, Staphylococcus.........
 
lone wolf
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You can take a breath of virus-laden air too......
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

When laws get in the way of common sense or the right to make a choice, it's time to rethink those laws.

This is not a common sense choice.

Allowing widespread production of a harmful product should remain against the law.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

This is not a common sense choice.

Allowing widespread production of a harmful product should remain against the law.

Are you aware that dairy cattle are examined by veterinarians? Despite all caution, stuff happens. Did you hear about the Listeria outbreak from a Canadian meat packer? ...Salmonella from a burger palace? In a perfect world, there would be no chance of infection. This just ain't a perfect world. It can't be regulated into one.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Are you aware that dairy cattle are examined by veterinarians? Despite all caution, stuff happens. Did you hear about the Listeria outbreak from a Canadian meat packer? ...Salmonella from a burger palace? In a perfect world, there would be no chance of infection. This just ain't a perfect world. It can't be regulated into one.

I'm not looking for a perfect world, but the risks in widespread production of raw milk are too significant.

It's just not worth it.
 
lone wolf
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There won't be widespread production simply because no retail outlet is going to take the chance and a contract dairy farmer isn't going to risk losing his quota by selling to a rival
 
mentalfloss
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I highly doubt that once other farmers decide to get in on the deal.
 
lone wolf
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Won't happen. Too much investment to lose
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Won't happen. Too much investment to lose

You can't teach a liberal common sense.............
 
Tonington
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I don't have an issue with it, provided that a batch isn't sold until the producer has test results to prove it's safe. Otherwise there will be more food born illness that is paid for by tax dollars in our healthcare system.

Other countries allow it, provided a certain level of safety is proven.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Beneficial bacteria in milk is not a new discovery. The problem is that milk is also a great host for tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, Q-fever, Salmonella, Listeria, Staphylococcus.........

Yep, and to make matters worse, agriculture is a big source of antimicrobial resistance.
 
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