What's your opinion?


JLM
#1
I think that anyone who was without power for 12 hours or more should be billed ZERO for the billing period! What do you think?
 
justfred
+3
#2
My thoughts are that if your power meter is not turning, because the power is off, because the power lines are down, there will not be a charge for any power used. DUH, I guess JLM did not think of that.
 
cj44
+1
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think that anyone who was without power for 12 hours or more should be billed ZERO for the billing period! What do you think?

Since when should we demand absolute perfection in life? Sometimes the power goes out. If customers are billed zero, the power will go out more often and for longer periods of time. In this life there is trouble. In the grand scheme, power outages are not terribly troublesome. Buy a generator if you find it a bother.
 
JLM
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by justfredView Post

My thoughts are that if your power meter is not turning, because the power is off, because the power lines are down, there will not be a charge for any power used. DUH, I guess JLM did not think of that.


Maybe it works that way where you live but it sure as Hell doesn't work that way here!
 
petros
+1
#5
I'd shoot the power line every month.
 
JLM
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44View Post

Since when should we demand absolute perfection in life? Sometimes the power goes out. If customers are billed zero, the power will go out more often and for longer periods of time. In this life there is trouble. In the grand scheme, power outages are not terribly troublesome. Buy a generator if you find it a bother.

1. Who was demanding perfection?............I was allowing them 12 hours.
2. I bet there's a handful of Torontonians who would disagree.
3. How many people in Eastern Canada had to put out $thousands for motels and restaurant meals?
 
petros
#7
They hydro company made the freezing rain?
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
+1
#8
That's not going to happen. The Provincial Libs gotta pay for subsidizing all those new fangled windmills, cancelled gas plants and figuring out a way to make Kathy not be the break up girlfriend we got stuck with because Dalton knew when the jig was up and abandoned ship.
 
JLM
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

They hydro company made the freezing rain?


Nope! Didn't try to avoid it either by not burying the lines! -
 
petros
#10
Are you having a senior's moment?
 
JLM
+1
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Are you having a senior's moment?


Every moment for the past 5 years has been "senior's"! -
 
petros
#12
Why don't hydro companies just run ads on what to have in your emergency kit. You have one don't you?
 
JLM
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Why don't hydro companies just run ads on what to have in your emergency kit. You have one don't you?


Most people probably will not succumb to a hydro "emergency", as most homes have adequate blankets and clothing and some sort of grub in the house that doesn't require cooking. A few gallons of water set aside probably wouldn't be a bad idea. As a side issue I've heard that some people are worried about food going bad and pipes freezing. I wouldn't have thought it possible to suffer from both.
 
Dexter Sinister
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

That's not going to happen. The Provincial Libs gotta pay for subsidizing all those new fangled windmills, cancelled gas plants and figuring out a way to make Kathy not be the break up girlfriend we got stuck with because Dalton knew when the jig was up and abandoned ship.

Cynical, amusing, and accurate. Good one, nicely put. You must be a writer...
 
JLM
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

They hydro company made the freezing rain?


Nope! Didn't try to avoid it either by not burying the lines! -
 
Cliffy
+2
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44View Post

Since when should we demand absolute perfection in life? Sometimes the power goes out. If customers are billed zero, the power will go out more often and for longer periods of time. In this life there is trouble. In the grand scheme, power outages are not terribly troublesome. Buy a generator if you find it a bother.

You sound like a Buddhist.

Get some solar panels and junk most of your power guzzling appliances. They make 12 volt stuff for RVs. Lots of things a person can do to go off grid. Screw the power companies.
 
JLM
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44View Post

Since when should we demand absolute perfection in life? Sometimes the power goes out. If customers are billed zero, the power will go out more often and for longer periods of time. In this life there is trouble. In the grand scheme, power outages are not terribly troublesome. Buy a generator if you find it a bother.


Generators generally burn fossil fuels so I'm not sure they are a viable long term solution to anything.
 
damngrumpy
#18
We have allowed our society to become so dependent on power we can't function
without power period. I understand the frustration but the weather happens and its
not the fault of crews or politicians when a mega event happens.
 
karrie
+6
#19  Top Rated Post
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I think that anyone who was without power for 12 hours or more should be billed ZERO for the billing period! What do you think?



Let's logic out this plan.


If my power is our for more than 12 hours, I get a free month of power. That sounds good on the surface for the consumer.


But. If a catastrophic issue occurs, and the company knows it will have to be out more than 12 hours, then they know they are not getting paid for the month by the people in that area. So, when deciding how to fix it, as the company, knowing you already have lost out on a month's revenue, do you throw multiple crews and overtime at it to get it fixed? Or do you take your sweet time, make sure you're not paying overtime, and simply ensure the power is back on by next billing period?
 
taxslave
#20
If you noticed on all the news shots in Toronto there are (were) thousands of trees growing around the power lines. The question is did hydro refuse to do proper line maintenance by cutting these trees down or did someone else refuse to let them cut the trees?

Burring all the lines underground is hugely expensive. WHo is going to pay? And where does the money come from?
 
JLM
+1
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Let's logic out this plan.


If my power is our for more than 12 hours, I get a free month of power. That sounds good on the surface for the consumer.


But. If a catastrophic issue occurs, and the company knows it will have to be out more than 12 hours, then they know they are not getting paid for the month by the people in that area. So, when deciding how to fix it, as the company, knowing you already have lost out on a month's revenue, do you throw multiple crews and overtime at it to get it fixed? Or do you take your sweet time, make sure you're not paying overtime, and simply ensure the power is back on by next billing period?


Do you ever quit thinking? It's Sunday! -
 
Cannuck
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by cj44View Post

Since when should we demand absolute perfection in life? Sometimes the power goes out.

Some people think everything should be handed to them. A month free power every time there is an extended power outage. What about free water every time there is a water main break? I had to get up and answer the door last night while watching a movie. Maybe I can get free cable this month

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Nope! Didn't try to avoid it either by not burying the lines! -

They can't afford to bury them. There's too many whiners wanting freebies.
 
taxslave
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Some people think everything should be handed to them. A month free power every time there is an extended power outage. What about free water every time there is a water main break? I had to get up and answer the door last night while watching a movie. Maybe I can get free cable this month



They can't afford to bury them. There's too many whiners wanting freebies.

You pay for cable? What they offer in BC isn't worth paying for.
 
Cannuck
+1
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

You pay for cable? What they offer in BC isn't worth paying for.

I don't really have a choice if I want my "NFL Sundays" and TSN Jets
 
tay
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

If you noticed on all the news shots in Toronto there are (were) thousands of trees growing around the power lines. The question is did hydro refuse to do proper line maintenance by cutting these trees down or did someone else refuse to let them cut the trees?

Burring all the lines underground is hugely expensive. WHo is going to pay? And where does the money come from?









The Harper CONS keep yapping about non existent job creation so maybe they can fund a 'cable burying fund' and create real jobs with the stipulation that only Canadians can do the work and all material be Made In Canada and not just in the GTA but wherever possible .............
 
JLM
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

The Harper CONS keep yapping about non existent job creation so maybe they can fund a 'cable burying fund' and create real jobs with the stipulation that only Canadians can do the work and all material be Made In Canada and not just in the GTA but wherever possible .............


No doubt it's one of these projects that would possibly pay dividends over a period of time and borrowing money is cheap right now, but it's obvious the entire country isn't going to be upgraded over night. Another consideration is the number of trees it would save..........that would keep the environmentalists happy for 5 minutes. Some would argue that power poles and overhead wires are unsightly.
 
tay
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

No doubt it's one of these projects that would possibly pay dividends over a period of time and borrowing money is cheap right now, but it's obvious the entire country isn't going to be upgraded over night. Another consideration is the number of trees it would save..........that would keep the environmentalists happy for 5 minutes. Some would argue that power poles and overhead wires are unsightly.






It would be a longer term vs short term project but isn't really too difficult to do. I don't think 'subdivisions' have had wiring above ground for at least 40 years.


As for the cost, well it will be interesting to see the final tab on the electrical hookup alone is and they haven't even really started on the tree cleanup yet........
 
taxslave
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

The Harper CONS keep yapping about non existent job creation so maybe they can fund a 'cable burying fund' and create real jobs with the stipulation that only Canadians can do the work and all material be Made In Canada and not just in the GTA but wherever possible .............

We are trying for real jobs, not make work projects the Liberals were famous for.

The cheaper solution is to get rid of the trees.
 
Cannuck
+2
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

The Harper CONS keep yapping about non existent job creation so maybe they can fund a 'cable burying fund' and create real jobs with the stipulation that only Canadians can do the work and all material be Made In Canada and not just in the GTA but wherever possible .............

It's already a nightmare in some places with buried utilities running willy-nilly. I wonder if people are aware how much extra it is going to cost to maintain underground utilities. Everytime there is a water main break, crews have to dodge gas, fiber optic, telephone and sewer lines now as well as buried electrical.
 
shadowshiv
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

That's not going to happen. The Provincial Libs gotta pay for subsidizing all those new fangled windmills, cancelled gas plants and figuring out a way to make Kathy not be the break up girlfriend we got stuck with because Dalton knew when the jig was up and abandoned ship.

As my parents and I drove to the house of family friends (they live in Erieau), I was amazed at how many of those butt-ugly windmills they have scattered all across the countryside! I think they are placing so many of them down in such a short time as they figure that people do NOT want them and that when the next election comes, they won't be getting in. Such a waste!
 

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