Carnival Cruise Lines says 6-year-old boy drowned in pool at sea

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A 6-year-old boy drowned in one of the pools aboard a Carnival Cruise Lines ship while at sea, the company said in a statement Monday.


The Carnival Victory was on the last leg of a four-day Caribbean cruise Sunday when the boy drowned in the midship pool. He was at the pool area with other family members at the time, the statement said.

"To the best of our knowledge it is the first time a child has drowned aboard one of our ships," Carnival spokeswoman Joyce Oliva said in an email to The Associated Press.



The ship arrived Monday morning at Port Miami. There were 3,094 guests on the ship and approximately 1,100 staff members, Carnival said. "Carnival extends its heartfelt sympathy to the family during this very difficult time. The company's CareTeam is providing assistance and support," Carnival said in its statement.



The Miami-Dade Police Department was investigating the drowning and identified the boy as Qwentyn Hunter of Winter Garden, Fla. Investigators said the boy was with his 10-year-old brother in the pool at the time. Passengers immediately pulled the boy from the water and began CPR, but the child was pronounced dead at the scene. The drowning appeared to be accidental and foul play was not suspected, police said.



The Miami-based cruise company has 24 ships that attract an average of 4.5 million passengers a year. Phone numbers listed for Hunter's parents rang busy or unanswered Monday. Hunter was a "sweet kid, very precocious," according to Jeff Callender, owner of Ariza Talent and Modeling Agency. Callender said the agency had been working with Hunter for half a year and he had been on four auditions.

"He had a bright future in entertainment," he said. The agency's website shows Hunter with an expressive face, smiling and joking in five photos. "The thing I found most beautiful about him, he knew how to move his ears," Callender said.

On a Disney cruise last year, a small boy nearly drowned. But drownings are infrequent despite the fact that cruise ships are not required to have lifeguards on duty, according to Ross Klein, who runs the website cruisejunkie.com and is a sociologist at Memorial University of Newfoundland in Canada.



There is a great deal of debate on whether cruise lines should have lifeguards, according to Jim Walker, a Miami maritime attorney and author of a blog called Cruise Law News : Maritime Lawyer & Attorney : James M. Walker : Walker & O'Neill Law Firm : Admiralty Law, Cruise Ship Accidents & Injuries.



"This involves the debate between personal responsibility and corporate responsibility," he wrote in an email to The Associated Press. "Yes, parents should have responsibility for watching their children but at the same time cruise corporations have a duty to watch over the parents and children and provide a reasonably safe place for them to have a family vacation,"

So who do you think is responsible here????
Carnival Cruise Lines says 6-year-old boy drowned in pool at sea - CBS News
 

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The cruise line for not having a life guard. Sure apparently they dont have to - but they should anyway. The family members who were with the kid but apparently not paying attention. It takes a few minutes to drown.
 

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I was just wondering who entrusts a ten year old with a six year old and sends them both off alone to a pool with no lifeguard?

The ten year old is messed for life....nice parenting.

I know, I know, I can't judge but wow...this is twisted.
 

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The cruise line for not having a life guard. Sure apparently they dont have to - but they should anyway.

Because it'll be a marketing issue I'm sure you'll see some put in place now. But to be fair there are many, many places where pools do not provide lifeguards (some smaller hotels and motels come to mind) and you frequently see signs posted to that effect, that swimming is at one's own risk.

The family members who were with the kid but apparently not paying attention. It takes a few minutes to drown.
I never took my eyes off my kids in a pool even when there were lifeguards there, not at that age anyway. Public pools with a lot of kids are complete chaos. But it's hard to say, it does take a few minutes to drown but it can also take a few minutes to find your kid in a crowd of splashing children should you happen to cast your eyes away for a second. I have more pity for the parents than harsh judgement.
 

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I never took my eyes off my kids in a pool even when there were lifeguards there, not at that age anyway. Public pools with a lot of kids are complete chaos. But it's hard to say, it does take a few minutes to drown but it can also take a few minutes to find your kid in a crowd of splashing children should you happen to cast your eyes away for a second. I have more pity for the parents than harsh judgement.
I don't have kids but I've seen some amazingly risky behaviour by parents w/kids around water-and some very safe common sense behaviour as well.

One of my old fishing buddies is a first mate on a cruise ship the stories he has of people misbehaving are on the one hand amusing but also upsetting and deaths an all too common occurrence.
 

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But to be fair there are many, many places where pools do not provide lifeguards (some smaller hotels and motels come to mind) and you frequently see signs posted to that effect, that swimming is at one's own risk.

True. They dont have them in my own apartment building. Though I must say I like it that way. Kids arent supposed to go there alone but really, if they have a key there isnt much to stop them.

I have more pity for the parents than harsh judgement.

I dont have harsh judgment per-se. The question was who was responsible - if they were there they were responsible in part. That isnt really a judgment, a statement of fact. One can sympathize and pity someone who was responsible.

I know, I know, I can't judge but wow...this is twisted.

Dont have to judge. Just tell it like it is. If people interpret it as judgment, oh well.