Sexting Victoria teen girl to be tried on child porn charge Girl, 16, faces child po

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Girl, 16, faces child porn charge for texting nude photo of another girl

Sexting Victoria teen girl to be tried on child porn charge - British Columbia - CBC News

The trial of a Victoria-area teen who is facing child pornography charges for allegedly texting a nude picture of another girl without her consent will go ahead before a constitutional challenge, a judge has ruled.

The 16-year-old Saanich girl is facing charges of possession and distribution of child pornography and uttering threats after she allegedly distributed nude pictures of her boyfriend's ex-girlfriend.

Today, a provincial court judge ruled the trial will go ahead this fall, before a related constitutional challenge to the child pornography law will be heard.

The teen's lawyer Christopher Mackie says they are launching a constitutional challenge against Canada's child pornography laws as they apply to people under age, claiming the charges amount to age discrimination.

"Originally, those provisions were created in order to protect children, so is it appropriate to use those provisions now to prosecute children?" Mackie said earlier this week.

The director of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association Micheal Vonn agreed and said this isn't what the laws were meant for.

"It's obviously absurd.…The unbelievably heavy hand of criminal law cannot be used as an educational tool and a deterrent in this fashion," said Vonn.
Act of a bully?

But Saanich police Sgt. Steve Eassie said this was an act of bullying.

"This it appears this was part of harassment or threatening behaviour on the part of the accused."

Stephanie Owen, of the Children of the Street Society, agreed, based on the allegations and the growing problem of online bullying, that the charges are appropriate.

"We're really trying to raise awareness about really thinking about what you put online."

But the mother of the accused said no one else involved in the case faces any charges and she believes the whole situation should have been dealt with outside of the legal system.

She said her daughter is not a pornographer or a pedophile and the law does not fit the alleged crime.

"They should have all been, suffered the same consequences, if you want to say … but also, they should all been offered the same counselling, they should have been offered the same education as far as the negative effects that this can have on them. Everybody's a loser here, really," said the girl's mother.

She said her daughter has been singled out and forced to transfer schools.

Nobody involved in the case can be named, in order to protect the identity of the minors involved.
 

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"Originally, those provisions were created in order to protect children, so is it appropriate to use those provisions now to prosecute children?" Mackie said earlier this week.


exactly
 

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"Originally, those provisions were created in order to protect children, so is it appropriate to use those provisions now to prosecute children?" Mackie said earlier this week.


exactly


What would you charge her with then?
 

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What would you charge her with then?


Nothing. Her parents can take care of it, as should the parents of her boyfriend, and the parents of the ex girlfriend who allowed herself to be photographed nude.
 

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Nothing. Her parents can take care of it, as should the parents of her boyfriend, and the parents of the ex girlfriend who allowed herself to be photographed nude.

Tell that to the girl and her parents whose photos are now all over the net.
 

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spreading nude photos of someone, without their permission, to bully them.... that's more than a 'let the parents sort it out' area. While I agree that she shouldn't be facing the same charges as someone producing actual child porn (no, I don't think teens texting pics of themselves is the same as people violating babies on film, so sue me folks), but I don't think it's something to be shrugged off.
 

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Tell that to the girl and her parents whose photos are now all over the net.


I see, so the girl that ALLOWED herself to be photographed nude gets a pass. We're not talking about some pedophile adult that kidnapped or coerced this poor child into stripping and being photographed. We are talking about 3 teenagers.
 

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I see, so the girl that ALLOWED herself to be photographed nude gets a pass. We're not talking about some pedophile adult that kidnapped or coerced this poor child into stripping and being photographed. We are talking about 3 teenagers.

Yes, the girl who allowed one person to have a photo of her, gets a pass if that person then passes it along without her permission. Is it dumb that she gave it out? Yes. But she's not the one in the wrong here.
 

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Yes, the girl who allowed one person to have a photo of her, gets a pass if that person then passes it along without her permission. Is it dumb that she gave it out? Yes. But she's not the one in the wrong here.


If the 2nd girl is getting nailed with distributing child porn, then the boyfriend and the first girlfriend should be charged with making child porn.
 

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If the 2nd girl is getting nailed with distributing child porn, then the boyfriend and the first girlfriend should be charged with making child porn.

Like I said, I don't think it's the appropriate charge, but ignoring it doesn't seem right either.

Personally, there have been enough of these sorts of cases, and even ones that result in suicide, that I think we need laws to protect Anyone from having their sexual pictures broadcast without permission. If you didn't sign rights to broadcast them, then spreading them should be illegal.
 

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This all rather confusing. Somehow the person that took the picture of an underage girl and made it available to others isn't guilty of anything but the girl that spread the picture farther afield is?
 

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This all rather confusing. Somehow the person that took the picture of an underage girl and made it available to others isn't guilty of anything but the girl that spread the picture farther afield is?

That was exactly what I was thinking. I highly doubt the girl in the picture let her ex's new girlfriend take nude photos of her. Their had to be something in the middle somewhere. If they want to play hardball then I agree with Gerry that the first 2 should be charged with manufacturing child porn and the boyfriend who passed it along and girl #2 should be charged with distributing child porn. Maybe then all 3 would learn something!
 

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Maybe they should all just be left alone to think about their group stupidity without a bunch of so called adults with agendas interfering.
 

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Personally, there have been enough of these sorts of cases, and even ones that result in suicide, that I think we need laws to protect Anyone from having their sexual pictures broadcast without permission. If you didn't sign rights to broadcast them, then spreading them should be illegal.
The easiest way to prevent that is not to have nude pictures taken of yourself. The sooner these little girls learn that and take some personal responsibility for their choices and actions the better we all shall be.
 

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The easiest way to prevent that is not to have nude pictures taken of yourself. The sooner these little girls learn that and take some personal responsibility for their choices and actions the better we all shall be.


Okay, so what about grown people who go through a divorce?
 

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What was "pornographic" about the picture?

From Oxford Dictionary the dictionary which is the "official dictionary of the English language" and the dictionary lawmakers use:

noun [mass noun] - pornography
  • printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate sexual excitement.
Intent plays what role in our Courts? What was her intent?
 

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Okay, so what about grown people who go through a divorce?


we are not talking about adults. We are talking about kids. You want to talk about what the law should do to Adults that spread nude pics around without permission, start a new thread. This one is concerning children.
 

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The "intent" (which is basis of our laws) of the girl who posed in the photo was more "pornographic" than the "intent" of girl who spread it to embarrass the little hosebag who posed.


The Crown is grasping at straws.
 

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The "intent" (which is basis of our laws) of the girl who posed in the photo was more "pornographic" than the "intent" of girl who spread it to embarrass the little hosebag who posed.


The Crown is grasping at straws.


You really don't understand child porn laws, do you.