The Cost of A Life? $400.00

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Family devastated after driver fined $400 for killing grandmother

TORONTO - A life should be worth more than a $400 fine. Carelessly killing a pedestrian should warrant more than a simple conviction under the Highway Traffic Act.

But thanks to a plea bargain, that’s all Ann Wyganowski received Thursday for striking and then running over Fen Shi, a beloved grandmother simply walking along a Bayview Ave. sidewalk on a clear September day last year.

“I just can’t believe it,” said Shi’s shaken son, John Pan. “The fine is only $400 — for a life. Can you believe that?”

Her lawyer even wanted to deny the woman’s son from reading aloud his victim impact statement because his client is undergoing counselling and now suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder. “It’s been tragic for her as well,” her counsel insisted.

Through his tears, Shi’s son John Pan was allowed to deliver his statement. “There are so many nights that I woke up from a dream of my mom and then I had to quietly walk to the bathroom, close the door and cry the sadness out of me,” he said. “She not only killed my mom, but also injured my whole family.”

But he was shaking with anger as justice of the peace Alfred Johnston not only accepted the plea deal, but had the nerve to chastise him for saying the driver had “killed” his mom. And then he went further. “The defendant,” Johnston opined, “has suffered just as much as the family.”

No sir, she has not.

Their beloved mother and grandmother is dead. Shi, a 75-year-old mother of three, moved here from China in 1999 to help care for Pan’s first child. After living with her son and his family for years, she recently moved into an apartment of her own. Active in her church, she was learning Cantonese and had even begun to pick up piano. She was healthy and loved.

On the morning of Sept. 10, 2012, she was walking to meet a friend before heading over to visit her son.

She never arrived. At 11 a.m., a Toronto Police officer knocked on Pan’s door with the horrible news.

There is no doubt this was an accident, that the driver never intended to kill that poor woman. While Wyganowski remained silent, her lawyer expressed her remorse. She doesn’t deserve to be locked away in jail for years. But a $400 fine?

Court heard the 54-year-old vice-president of HZX Business Continuity Planning was turning north out of her chiropractor’s driveway and looking left at the traffic when she struck and then ran over Shi. She continued driving until honking witnesses finally alerted her to what she’d done and she returned to the scene.

Wyganowski was charged with careless driving. But to the shock of Shi’s children, Crown attorney Raphael Leong informed them just before Mother’s Day that he was going to accept a deal: The careless driving charge would be dropped in return for her guilty plea to Section 139 (1) of the Highway Traffic Act — failure to yield from a private roadway, which carries a maximum $500 fine.

They were justifiably outraged. “We cried. We begged him: What kind of evidence do you need to go through with a trial?” Pan recalled. “But they want to close the case and we have no say.”

They spent the last few months trying to change his mind. But Leong told them he represents the Crown — not the victims — and they can hire a civil lawyer and sue.

“That’s not what we want,” said the exasperated Pan, a data architect for the education ministry. “My mom got killed. She needs a fair judgment. For the prosecutor, he needs to prevent this from happening again. Every year, so many pedestrians get killed. A $400 fine won’t do anything to change that.”

But this is assembly line justice, where expediency and saving court time and money is the order of the day. Pan stumbled out of the Old City Hall courthouse, devastated by how little the justice system cared about his innocent mother.

“Human life has virtually no value,” said Pan. “To us, it’s like he killed our mother a second time and it’s even worse because it’s on purpose.”

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But he was shaking with anger as justice of the peace Alfred Johnston not only accepted the plea deal, but had the nerve to chastise him for saying the driver had “killed” his mom. And then he went further. “The defendant,” Johnston opined, “has suffered just as much as the family.”
That has to be one of the most ignorant statements ever expressed by a judge that I've heard. It's disgusting.
 

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Supply and demand. Let free markets control the cost of a human.
Obviously we have a overpopulation problem if the prices are down to 400$
 

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All I know is if I seriously injured/killed someone by my inattention when driving, I don't honestly know if I could live with myself as this would be my worst nighmare!. I'd likely end up in psychiatric hospital.

Having said that, I would expect a more severe fine and loss of license, if nothing else. $400 does not seem right to me.

JMHO
 

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Remorse. It decides the outcome of ALL court cases where harm is involved.

It's still a real slap in the face to the family of the victim. There has to be a better balance of compassion between the victim and a remorseful perpetrator than this.
 

Kreskin

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But this is a person who did this by accident. Between the remorse of killing someone AND the law prosecuting them, I would say they've been through as much or more hell as anyone in this case.
 

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What a horrid thing to say on the part of the judge. Inconsiderate, cruel.

That being said. The justice system is not simply about exacting pounds of flesh. It seems to me that $400 dollars is a disservice here, but I fail to see what price the family was willing to put on the life of their grandmother. In my opinion, given the remorse shown by this victim, the emotional upset she attests to, community service makes infinitely more sense from a human standpoint, than throwing cash at the problem. And from the viewpoint of a victim, I think it would be a much better testament to the loss of a loved one, than money.
 

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It's still a real slap in the face to the family of the victim. There has to be a better balance of compassion between the victim and a remorseful perpetrator than this.

There is no provision for reading a statement aloud, just submitting one. If the women who smoked the woman heard it fell deeper into depression and killed herself later that evening, then what?
 

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I find it difficult to believe four hundred dollars is all it cost. The fact is sometimes prison
or fines are not the appropriate punishment either it depends of the situation on an
individual basis. Sometimes those who hit people condemn themselves more than any
court case ever could. In 1947 my brother was killed by a drunk driver, back then the
courts didn't act like they do now. Now we have people who go to jail or pay a fine and
consider they paid society back with money or time. Back then the driver who did this
never went to prison and paid a small fine. He paid a much bigger price however. He
could not sleep, he could not even eat toward the end and he quit drinking for six months.
What was significant about six months? The toll it took on him personally, he died
within six months of running over my brother. He didn't commit suicide he just could
not come to grips with what he had done. That was more of a punishment than paying
a fine.
 

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What a horrid thing to say on the part of the judge. Inconsiderate, cruel.

That being said. The justice system is not simply about exacting pounds of flesh. It seems to me that $400 dollars is a disservice here, but I fail to see what price the family was willing to put on the life of their grandmother. In my opinion, given the remorse shown by this victim, the emotional upset she attests to, community service makes infinitely more sense from a human standpoint, than throwing cash at the problem. And from the viewpoint of a victim, I think it would be a much better testament to the loss of a loved one, than money.

I think having any monetrary amount imposed by the court for the death of a human being is ridiculous. Because this does end up reading like they are assessing the value of the life of the victim at the stated amount. That is was such a low amount adds insult to the injury of the families loss, in my opinion, making it both ridiculous and cruel.

And I agree completely that there should be a community service component to cases like this.
 

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There is no provision for reading a statement aloud, just submitting one. If the women who smoked the woman heard it fell deeper into depression and killed herself later that evening, then what?

This isn't about the statement as far as I'm concerned. It's about assessing such a small fine as full penalty for taking someone's life, even if it was accidental. She was negligent, she took someone life, she should receive some kind of penalty for that. Extreme remorse should keep someone out of prison in these kinds of cases, but there has to be something more they should be contributing beyond a $400 bill. My monthly cable bill is higher than that.
 

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This isn't about the statement as far as I'm concerned. It's about assessing such a small fine as full penalty for taking someone's life, even if it was accidental. She was negligent, she took someone life, she should receive some kind of penalty for that. Extreme remorse should keep someone out of prison in these kinds of cases, but there has to be something more they should be contributing beyond a $400 bill. My monthly cable bill is higher than that.
Deluxe porn package?


But seriously, folks. I agree with you. In the first place, she should have been charged under the more serious violation. Secondly, she should have received some sort of probation, including driving restrictions. And third, she should have been sentenced to community service.

Not about revenge, it's about "You have a debt to pay."
 

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Why does this have to be about revenge?

Who says it is about revenge? Why can it not be that people, even in making an error, need to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions?

What is the appropriate fine?

I think having any monetrary amount imposed by the court for the death of a human being is ridiculous. Because this does end up reading like they are assessing the value of the life of the victim at the stated amount. That is was such a low amount adds insult to the injury of the families loss, in my opinion, making it both ridiculous and cruel.

And I agree completely that there should be a community service component to cases like this.
 

Kreskin

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Who says it is about revenge? Why can it not be that people, even in making an error, need to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions?
She has gone through hell over this, I'm sure. What's the purpose of pounding her into oblivion? Would it help people feel better if she was given a few lashes, or caned?
 

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Deluxe porn package?

Lol, no. Digital cable with movies package, high speed internet with unlimited download, home phone and 3 cell phones (2 of which I get reimbursed for).


But seriously, folks. I agree with you. In the first place, she should have been charged under the more serious violation. Secondly, she should have received some sort of probation, including driving restrictions. And third, she should have been sentenced to community service.

Not about revenge, it's about "You have a debt to pay."

Exactly, thank you.
 

karrie

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Who says it is about revenge? Why can it not be that people, even in making an error, need to accept responsibility for the consequences of their actions?


When it comes to traffic accidents, the law tends to treat them according to your actions, not according to the outcomes.

If she ran up on the curb making a mistake in traffic, and a cop caught her, and fined her $400, would you find it so out of step?