Wow, Putin is dragging Russia into the dark ages.

gerryh

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On July 3, Mr. Putin signed a law banning the adoption of Russian-born children not only to gay couples but also to any couple or single parent living in any country where marriage equality exists in any form.
A few days earlier, just six months before Russia hosts the 2014 Winter Games, Mr. Putin signed a lawallowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days. Contrary to what the International Olympic Committee says, the law could mean that any Olympic athlete, trainer, reporter, family member or fan who is gay — or suspected of being gay, or just accused of being gay — can go to jail.
Earlier in June, Mr. Putin signed yet another antigay bill, classifying “homosexual propaganda” as pornography. The law is broad and vague, so that any teacher who tells students that homosexuality is not evil, any parents who tell their child that homosexuality is normal, or anyone who makes pro-gay statements deemed accessible to someone underage is now subject to arrest and fines. Even a judge, lawyer or lawmaker cannot publicly argue for tolerance without the threat of punishment.
Finally, it is rumored that Mr. Putin is about to sign an edict that would remove children from their own families if the parents are either gay or lesbian or suspected of being gay or lesbian. The police would have the authority to remove children from adoptive homes as well as from their own biological parents.
Not surprisingly, some gay and lesbian families are already beginning to plan their escapes from Russia.



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On July 3, Mr. Putin signed a law banning the adoption of Russian-born children not only to gay couples but also to any couple or single parent living in any country where marriage equality exists in any form.
A few days earlier, just six months before Russia hosts the 2014 Winter Games, Mr. Putin signed a lawallowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days. Contrary to what the International Olympic Committee says, the law could mean that any Olympic athlete, trainer, reporter, family member or fan who is gay — or suspected of being gay, or just accused of being gay — can go to jail.
Earlier in June, Mr. Putin signed yet another antigay bill, classifying “homosexual propaganda” as pornography. The law is broad and vague, so that any teacher who tells students that homosexuality is not evil, any parents who tell their child that homosexuality is normal, or anyone who makes pro-gay statements deemed accessible to someone underage is now subject to arrest and fines. Even a judge, lawyer or lawmaker cannot publicly argue for tolerance without the threat of punishment.
Finally, it is rumored that Mr. Putin is about to sign an edict that would remove children from their own families if the parents are either gay or lesbian or suspected of being gay or lesbian. The police would have the authority to remove children from adoptive homes as well as from their own biological parents.
Not surprisingly, some gay and lesbian families are already beginning to plan their escapes from Russia.



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Everything old is new again. This seems awfully familiar rules, practices and procedures for the Mother Russia, doesn't it? Makes one almost nostalgic for the days of the KGB.

I've always had the impression that Putin was an oddball. This does nothing to change my perception.
 

B00Mer

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Hey, how many on this thread have been adopted... so why not ask how adoptees' feel about the new laws..

Personally as a person who was adopted - I like Putins new regulations..


I personally like the idea of being adopted by a "traditional" family unit.


Call me old fashion.
 

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Hey, how many on this thread have been adopted... so why not ask how adoptees' feel about the new laws..

Personally as a person who was adopted - I like Putins new regulations..


I personally like the idea of being adopted by a "traditional" family unit.


Call me old fashion.

They range far beyond adoption laws. Do you support all of them?
 

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Better to be adopted by a gay couple than not be adopted at all. Gay parents can love a child just as much as a heterosexual couple. These days too many children are being raised by a divorced parent, so why isn't there a law about that?
 

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CHILDREN are conceived when sperm from a man and the ovum of a woman merge. Simple as that. Being gay is a choice therefore when you chose to be gay you also chose to give up the ability to create a life.

A child needs both Mom and Dad... Not two Moms, and not two Dads. A father can never make up for the place of a mother. This subjects is usually about the couple, but we need to stop and remember the child. The child needs both parents to have a healthy house. Being raised by two dads or two moms is no different than living in a divorced house... You have plenty of one parent, but none of the other.
 

gerryh

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CHILDREN are conceived when sperm from a man and the ovum of a woman merge. Simple as that. Being gay is a choice therefore when you chose to be gay you also chose to give up the ability to create a life.

A child needs both Mom and Dad... Not two Moms, and not two Dads. A father can never make up for the place of a mother. This subjects is usually about the couple, but we need to stop and remember the child. The child needs both parents to have a healthy house. Being raised by two dads or two moms is no different than living in a divorced house... You have plenty of one parent, but none of the other.


Studies have proven you wrong. So this is more about your prejudice than facts.

my question would be, where did you get this prejudice from, that wonderful family that adopted you?
 

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Hey, how many on this thread have been adopted... so why not ask how adoptees' feel about the new laws..

Personally as a person who was adopted - I like Putins new regulations..


I personally like the idea of being adopted by a "traditional" family unit.


Call me old fashion.

Probably because thats the type of family you were raised in. If you had been raised by a single parent or gay couple I imagine you would have no problem with those options. I dont really find the "traditional" family unit all that attractive but that is also probably because of my experiences - or lack of them rather. I was raised by a single mother and in hindsight am glad that my father was not around given the problems he had at the time.
 

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CHILDREN are conceived when sperm from a man and the ovum of a woman merge. Simple as that. Being gay is a choice therefore when you chose to be gay you also chose to give up the ability to create a life.

A child needs both Mom and Dad... Not two Moms, and not two Dads. A father can never make up for the place of a mother. This subjects is usually about the couple, but we need to stop and remember the child. The child needs both parents to have a healthy house. Being raised by two dads or two moms is no different than living in a divorced house... You have plenty of one parent, but none of the other.


Not anymore. A gay man or a lesbian woman can still reproduce and do. I know some who have. A gay man and a lesbian woman - both in committed long term relationships and wanted children. They used artificial insemination and have a joint custody agreement.

Hmm we are almost at the point where a generation of kids raised by same sex couples have reached adulthood. From what ive seen most of them are doing fine. Give it a few more years and we'll see what happens. I suspect a child will usually turn out fine so long as the person or people raising them were good people and did the best they could. Not always - but even normal nuclear families produce the occasional failure or psychopath.


He needs to kill at least a few million people before getting anywhere near comparable to Stalin. As far as I know there hasnt even been a single execution since he has been in power - much less mass murder.
 

gerryh

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He needs to kill at least a few million people before getting anywhere near comparable to Stalin. As far as I know there hasnt even been a single execution since he has been in power - much less mass murder.


yet.
 

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CHILDREN are conceived when sperm from a man and the ovum of a woman merge. Simple as that. Being gay is a choice therefore when you chose to be gay you also chose to give up the ability to create a life.

A child needs both Mom and Dad... Not two Moms, and not two Dads. A father can never make up for the place of a mother. This subjects is usually about the couple, but we need to stop and remember the child. The child needs both parents to have a healthy house. Being raised by two dads or two moms is no different than living in a divorced house... You have plenty of one parent, but none of the other.
And yet so many children of single parents turn out OK.