Hot car deaths ‘not failures of love, but failures of memory,’ activist says after tw

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Hot car deaths ‘not failures of love, but failures of memory’ activist says | Posted Toronto | National Post

As police revealed more details about the death of a two-year-old boy outside Toronto, news of another incident on Thursday involving an unattended toddler inside a vehicle further exacerbated concerns over the steady flow of “hot car deaths” in North America.

The two-year-old boy from Milton, Ont., died on Wednesday after spending “an extended period of time” alone in a sedan parked outside the family’s home. A statement from Halton Regional Police said the boy was in the care of his maternal grandmother, while his mother was at an appointment, his father was at work and his 5-year-old sister was at school.

An autopsy showed the child had been exposed to “high-level temperatures.”

The afternoon temperature reached 28 degrees Celsius in Milton, but police said Wednesday the temperature inside the car reached 50 C.

Less than 24 hours later, police on the opposite side of Toronto in Markham, Ont., were called to a commercial parking lot, where they were forced to pry open a window in order to rescue a two-year-old girl inside a sweltering car.

It is unfortunate that people don’t seem to be getting the message

“It is unfortunate that people don’t seem to be getting the message,” Const. Blair McQuillan of York Regional Police said on Thursday.

The child was taken to hospital as a precaution and police arrested the 32-year-old mother for child abandonment, however no charges had been laid as of Thursday afternoon, Const. McQuillan confirmed.

No one has been arrested or charged in the death of the Milton boy, police say.

As she read headlines of the incidents on Thursday, Kristie Cavaliero was brought instantly back to May 25, 2011.

On that day, the Texas mother was out to lunch with her husband. She asked whether teachers at the daycare centre liked their one-year-old daughter’s outfit when he dropped her off that morning. Panic ensued. He hadn’t dropped her off. Ms. Cavaliero describes the frantic blur of what followed: running red lights to find their dying daughter lying in the parking lot at her husband’s workplace, with a crowd of employees trying to perform CPR.

“It’s really tough to read essentially the same story,” said Ms. Cavaliero, who has spent the past two years sifting through reports of child deaths and advocating for auto industry reform — particularly alarm systems for backseat passengers. “It’s just a devastating thing to live through.”

Kids and Cars, a non-profit organization of which Ms. Cavaliero is a member, compiles statistics on the U.S. deaths of children left alone in hot vehicles. There are an average of 38 per year in the United States, from a low of four in 1991 to a high of 49 in 2010.

For the silent majority of folks who read these stories, it scares them to death

“For the silent majority of folks who read these stories, it scares them to death,” said Ms. Cavaliero. “They might not say so, but many of them have had close calls.

“It could have been me,” says Ms. Cavaliero, who remains with her husband. They have nine-month old twins. “The only person who knows exactly what I’ve lost is him. For that reason, we stuck together through this.”

The Canadian incarnation of Kids and Cars, run by a personal injury lawyer in Halifax, is in its infancy and does not provide similar statistics. But a spokesperson at Canada Safety Council estimated an average of four to six deaths per year, based on the American numbers.

A Toronto toddler died in August 2010 after he was left in an SUV outside a home in Houston for almost two hours. Police said the family had returned from a trip to the grocery store and had to immediately attend to his older brother, who has autism. They were distracted and lost track of the toddler, said police at the time.

In 2003, a Montreal father left his 23-month old daughter in a vehicle for eight hours while he took the subway to work. According to the Montreal Gazette, Dominic Martin said he had forgotten to drop the girl off at daycare, and got onto the subway without noticing the toddler was in the back seat. A manslaughter charge was eventually dropped, after the Crown decided “there was no malice, no ill will, no intention — there was no fault on the part of Mr. Martin.”

Amber Rollins, spokesperson for Kids and Cars, said children left in the back seat are more easily forgotten and suggests drivers leave their cellphone or wallet near their toddler as another reminder to check the back seat before leaving the car.

On Thursday, Kids and Cars Canada founder John McKiggan recognized that a rash of online anger towards the Milton boy’s family was a “human” reaction to the death of any child. But the Halifax lawyer stressed that “almost universally” hot car deaths “are not failures of love, but failures of memory.”
 

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How many of us have left something of the roof of the car and driven off?
 

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You can ignore this question as it may be a tad personal. Do you have kids?

Yes I do. I just can't wrap my head around a scenario where/how I would forget him. Thinking about it, my experience is with only 1 kid of that age it would be hard to forget. But if one of many (aka Home Alone) where things get chaotic, maybe. I don't recall mention of other kids in any of the incidents this week.

It can happen. Especially if you don't have kids of your own.

How often would you be thrust as caregiver for a child of that age?
 

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today they are running toxicology reports on the child, that sounds bizarre to me
 

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today they are running toxicology reports on the child, that sounds bizarre to me

I could "see it" if it was on the parents!

Yes, hot car deaths are failures of love. Two year olds should never be left in a car unattended for even two minutes regardless of the temperature. Everyone in the world has a potential of collapsing from a heart attack or whatever and if that happens it could be several hours before all the "loose ends" got reconnected. Or someone driving nearby could lose control and run into your car with the kid inside. There are a thousand possibilities. You just don't leave your most precious possession to chance.
 

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Why haven't car makers installed fans to keep interiors cool? An adequate fan can run for days off a car battery so what is the excuse?

This isn't a new problem.

They have every other safety device imaginable to keep morons of the planet alive when a car is rolling but only a brake for when it is stationary.

I could "see it" if it was on the parents!

Yes, hot car deaths are failures of love. Two year olds should never be left in a car unattended for even two minutes regardless of the temperature. Everyone in the world has a potential of collapsing from a heart attack or whatever and if that happens it could be several hours before all the "loose ends" got reconnected. Or someone driving nearby could lose control and run into your car with the kid inside. There are a thousand possibilities. You just don't leave your most precious possession to chance.
I carry a plate steel umbrella in case I got nailed by a meteorite.
 

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How can you forget you have a kid with you??? I don't get it.

I suppose easily if the child is sleeping (ie quiet) in the backseat, the person is preoccupied with something and/or not the primary caregiver (if it's not routine). I'm not saying it's right or even excusable, just saying it can happen.

Wholly different than the situation where mom (or dad) leaves the kids in the car while she goes shopping, or to play bingo, or goes to the casino.

I can understand it happening under certain circumstances, even though I would never excuse it under any circumsances, I guess it's just situational. Sometimes when you hear of it, it reads more as a tragedy, other times it reads as downright criminal.

Empathy is a learned thing.

What does empathy have to do with memory? If you're classifying the development of empathy as learning, fine, but that usually is well under way by the age of two years. Or are you implying that only someone who doesn't care would "forget" a child in a car?
 

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I can see this thread going haywire.

Do Jewmaican parents have to worry more than Norwegian parents when leaving their kids in their cars?

Did I mean that the other way around? Who knows? Film at 11!
 

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Any thread could go haywire, seen enough of that bizarreness to trust in it like I trust that the sun will rise each day.

But anything to do with kids is always going to evoke a real visceral reaction in people. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, think it shows most of us have our priorities straight even if we might have a heavy emotional reaction to things as a first instinct.
 

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The only two things I have 100% trust in are gravity and sunrise.

125+ years of automobiles and the question in my head is "does this fall under no fault or do I need tort"?
 

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The only two things I have 100% trust in are gravity and sunrise.

Yeah but when the sun finally goes super nova and doesn't rise, boy is your face going to be red. ;)

125+ years of automobiles and the question in my head is "does this fall under no fault or do I need tort"?

I have no idea but as to your earlier comment about fans or something in cars to keep them cool, I can see some kind of warning system being developed if someone is still in the back seat buckled in or a cooling system (or heating system in winter) that might come on perhaps in such a circumstance. I mean, we have cars that will parallel park themselves now for goodness sakes.

It's not the car manufacturers fault any more than the manufacturer is to blame when someone doesn't signal and ends up in an accident because of it. It's an end user problem.
 

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Why haven't car makers installed fans to keep interiors cool? An adequate fan can run for days off a car battery so what is the excuse?

This isn't a new problem.

They have every other safety device imaginable to keep morons of the planet alive when a car is rolling but only a brake for when it is stationary.

I carry a plate steel umbrella in case I got nailed by a meteorite.

Good thinking, Petros!

The only two things I have 100% trust in are gravity and sunrise.

125+ years of automobiles and the question in my head is "does this fall under no fault or do I need tort"?

But not sunset?
 

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Accidents happen, this is not unheard of. We know nothing of this woman other than she wasn't that old, and now she has killed her grandbaby.

I did find the angle that the car had been parked at to be a tad peculiar. Why across the door, and why not in the garage? Luckily for her others who have done the same have come to her defense. I can not in my wildest nightmares imagine anything much worse. And how would "her" child feel about having left their child in her care. I don't know how one ever moves past such a tragedy.

When you google it, there are so many, many cases of people who have accidentally killed a spouse or a child. I know of someone who ran over their child with the lawn mower. Does one think of that accident every time you see your child's prosthesis? Does the guilt ever leave? Is there EVER one moments peace again after accidentally murdering a child in your care? I personally doubt it.

toxicology reports are strange to me, but perhaps they are routine in such situations